The Facts of Life: Shattering the Myths of Darwinism. A Review.

New Statesman ^ | 28 August 1992 | Richard Dawkins

[general_re]

You have much success with this shamanism?

No, it doesn't. It is widely regarded as a joke. But once you realize that there is no "f.Christian", only a simple ELIZA-style chatbot on the other end, you also understand that it's not really worth trying to parse out this sort of babbling idiocy...

[Junior]

I'm not a scientist, nor do I play one on TV.

[Dimensio]

You insult the intelligence of ELIZA with your comparison.

[Heartlander]

Ampere's law is folly. Join with Ohm, leader of the resistance.

[general_re]

You insult the intelligence of ELIZA with your comparison.

True. However, since neither ELIZA nor f.Christian are real people, I don't have to worry about giving offense... ;)

[f.Christian]

We see here our Noah building His wondrous ark for the salvation of His household. We see its beginning, middle, and end. We see its different parts, external and internal; each plank as it is laid, each nail as it is driven in. Its form is perfect; its structure in all details is complete; its strength and stability are altogether divine. Yet with what labour and amid what mockings is this ark constructed! Amid what strong crying and tears, what blood and agony, is it completed! Thus, however, we are assured of its... perfection---and security. Through the deep waters of this evil world it floats in peace. No storm can overset it, no billow break it, nor so much as loosen one of its planks. They who have fled to it as a hiding-place from the wind, and a covert from the tempest, are everlastingly safe."

[Dimensio]

Scientific irrationalism seems to be the rule among atheists.

What was irrational about my statement -- or were you not making a comment on my statement but decided that my post was as good as any for your reply?

[AndrewC]

Any specific reason for choosing an article nearly ten years old? There seems to be no lack of present-day drivel over which to argue. Anyway, in light of the archival search for bones over which to contend, though Dawkins may write well, he lacks the perspicacity to correctly describe the Apostle Thomas story. From a slightly more recent exposition of Dawkins

Is Science a Religion?

Why else would Christians wax critical of doubting Thomas? The other apostles are held up to us as exemplars of virtue because faith was enough for them. Doubting Thomas, on the other hand, required evidence. Perhaps he should be the patron saint of scientists.

[Woahhs]

Human and ape scurvy (and other genetic defects we share) are evidence of so-called macro evolution.

Please elaborate.

You see, there's nothing to 'believe in' with science

Don't kid yourself friend. Read "The structure of scientific revolutions" by Kuhn.

[Woahhs]

I stand corrected. Thank you.

[Elsie]

For evidence, I would certainly require more than the written words of Jesus' followers, all who have a stake in making others believe that said events occurred.

My point was, 2000 years ago, there was NO technolgy available OTHER than the written word.

What do you want?

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They all had a stake in getting themselves killed for their beliefs.

[Elsie]

You guys are missing my point:

If evolution is true, then there ARE RANDOM useless parts on creatures right now.

(No direction; remember.)

[Elsie]

He has taken away my anger and set me free. Praise God.
(You're gonna take heat for this, but I'll be right there with you!)

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His name is Wonderful, Prince of Peace!

NIV Isaiah 9:6
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

[Elsie]

I'm still not sure what it is that you are trying to prove. Are you suggesting that the Bible is a comprehensive collection of news stories, the originals of which were destroyed in great wars?

Oh.... I don't know. Switching between channels, I observed that ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX seemed to be carrying a story about a crash, but they did not agree on some of the details.

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(Now about them four OTHER guys: Matthew, Mark, Luke and John................)

[Elsie]

... any supposed God weatherman who has to revert to cohersion sirens ... and / or extortion weather alerts crawling across the TV screen, to gain follows safety for citizens on threat of some eternal hell massive tornado outbreak ... IS NO GOD WEATHERMAN!

Now a statement like THIS would be strange.......

[Elsie]

........heaven is populated by people the likes of .....

(It gets WORSE!!)

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NIV 1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

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(I do note, however, that whether we believe in "E" or "C" is NOT mentioned ;^)

[Elsie]

You can always tell when some religious "zealot" has lost an argument ... they resort to scripture.

Not ALL the time! Sometimes we just do it for the Hell of it!

[Elsie]

Oh, one other thing........ could someone get me the reply number where Khepera actually said he'd(she'd?) enjoy the lost being tormented?

I'd like to see this in context.

[Elsie]

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