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FBI Move Closer on Motive for LA Airport Shooting
Reuters | 7/09/02 | Gina Keating

Posted on 07/09/2002 1:41:53 PM PDT by kattracks

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The FBI appeared on Tuesday to be moving closer to establishing a motive for an Egyptian limousine driver's deadly July 4 shooting at Los Angeles airport, saying investigators may have "significant developments" in the case later in the week.

A Muslim community leader helping authorities dig up information about Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, 46, said the FBI was preparing a first-round analysis of the information gleaned from early interviews and evidence.

"That's where they put all the pieces together and look into the totality," Salam al Marayati, director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, told Reuters. "It should happen tomorrow."

The FBI said last week that Hadayet went to the airport on Independence Day armed with two guns and a knife with intent to kill, but his motive for opening fire on passengers and staff at the El Al ticket counter has so far remained unexplained.

"It's possible there may be significant developments in the investigation," FBI spokeswoman Laura Bosley said on Tuesday. "We are following a number of leads to establish motivation."

Bosley said the FBI would be meeting with Los Angeles police, immigration, customs and other authorities shortly to exchange information gleaned in their inquiries. But she said the results would not be made public unless a firm conclusion was reached.

Two Israelis were killed in the attack which Israel has labeled terrorism. U.S. authorities have said they have no evidence to suggest the shooting was an act of terror, saying Hadayet was not on any international watch list and appeared to have no ties to Islamic militant groups.

At the FBI's request, Muslim leaders in southern California canvassed their communities for information about Hadayet, who had been living in the United States since 1992.

"We called on our network to provide information but basically came up with nothing," Al Marayati said. "This gentleman is an unknown figure in the community. He may have attended some Friday prayers but was not a core member of a mosque."

TENSION STILL HIGH AT AIRPORT

Tension is still high at Los Angeles airport where a security alert over an unattended bag lead to a brief evacuation on Tuesday of Terminal 5, the Delta Air Lines hub.

Police said passengers were cleared out onto the sidewalk but the incident was cleared after about 30 minutes. No bombs were found.

The Los Angeles Times reported on Tuesday that Hadayet first came to the United States on a six-month tourist visa and applied for political asylum shortly before his visa expired in 1992.

His asylum application was denied but he appealed and was granted a temporary residency and work permit before his wife won legal residency status through a federal "diversity" visa lottery aimed at boosting underrepresented populations of immigrants allowed into the United States.

Hadayet's wife and two sons had returned to Egypt to visit family about two weeks before the shooting. They have been interviewed by FBI agents but have been unable to explain his outburst.

Los Angeles City Council on Tuesday ordered an evaluation of the emergency response to the shooting to determine whether adjustments to screening procedures and police deployment were needed in light of the shooting.

"I'm not suggesting mistakes were made but I am suggesting that we can learn things from our response," said Councilman Jack Weiss, who requested the reports. "I want to make certain we are prepared, frankly, for something worse than July 4."




TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: hadayat; hadayet; jihadinamerica; laxshooter; redcross; salamalmarayati

1 posted on 07/09/2002 1:41:54 PM PDT by kattracks
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2 posted on 07/09/2002 1:45:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: kattracks
Perfect timing. The public has moved on. If it's a lone gunman or terrorism... it matters less now that it's past the lead news cycles. Most importantly, consumer confidence has been saved... and the water-cooler talk is about Martha Stewart's stock trades, Ted Williams frozen body, or that Pledge "under God" debate.
3 posted on 07/09/2002 1:46:48 PM PDT by CecilRhodesGhost
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
**Bump**
4 posted on 07/09/2002 1:47:30 PM PDT by TwoStep
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To: kattracks
Hey, at this dizzy rate of speed they'll start investigating flight schools in Florida and Arizona for potential terrorist links to fly commercial jets into large buildings.
5 posted on 07/09/2002 1:50:04 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: kattracks
"It's possible there may be significant developments in the investigation," FBI spokeswoman Laura Bosley said on Tuesday. "We are following a number of leads to establish motivation."

In other words: "We've already made up our minds that this was not a terrorist attack. We are now disregarding all eveidence contrary to that hypothesis and manufacturing evidence to support our jumped-to conclusion."

"Quite honestly", she continued, "If we even hinted to the American people that he was a Muslim with an intense hatred for Jews and Americans with sponsors in Al Qaeda and a visa from the Clinton government, we know that the unenlightened American redneck will start killing arabs; putting a terrible crimp in our 'diversity' quotas."

6 posted on 07/09/2002 1:50:15 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith
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To: kattracks
Owl_Eagle is gonna just take a peep into his crystal ball and see if I can’t glean the pending results of the investigation….

Hmmm… as a muslim, the FELLA... HATED... JEWS!!!

"How many were the populations we utterly destroyed because of their sins, setting up in their place other peoples." (Koran 2:191)

"Not to make friendship with Jews and Christians" (Koran 5:51)

"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (Koran, 8:37)

islam, the religion of peace…

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

7 posted on 07/09/2002 1:50:38 PM PDT by South Hawthorne
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To: kattracks
I will bet on him being a Twinkie addict.
8 posted on 07/09/2002 1:50:53 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: kattracks; aristeides; Plummz; rdavis84; mancini
But she [Bosley] said the results would not be made public unless a firm conclusion was reached.

I can't wait to hear this one.

9 posted on 07/09/2002 1:51:12 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the ping. The view from Quatar.

The gun on the left is shooting at the plane, writing our "A Message to the White House" in bullet holes. The sign at the upper left says "Los Angeles."

10 posted on 07/09/2002 1:52:18 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: kattracks
"It's possible there may be significant developments in the investigation," FBI spokeswoman Laura Bosley said on Tuesday. "We are following a number of leads to establish motivation."

I bet he was pissed because his application to 747 school was denied.

11 posted on 07/09/2002 1:52:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: kattracks
Chupacabras dun it!

I mean I'm waiting for the FBI to just throw up their arms in despair and say: Chupacabras dun it!

12 posted on 07/09/2002 1:55:07 PM PDT by GNU4U
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To: SJackson
The gun on the left is shooting at the plane, writing our "A Message to the White House" in bullet holes. The sign at the upper left says "Los Angeles."

Sick bastards! Send them a reply with a B-2 armed with 16 SRAM (Short Range Attack Missiles) loaded with a 150 kt nuclear warhead.

13 posted on 07/09/2002 1:56:45 PM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: chookter
They will unequivocally announce that it was a terrorist attack, but only because of the unrelenting beating they've taken in the press for their reluctance to state the obvious.
14 posted on 07/09/2002 1:57:06 PM PDT by dead
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To: GNU4U
My guess, adverse reaction to Acutane medication.
15 posted on 07/09/2002 1:57:12 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Insiders also know that Laura Bosley is following all leads including Chupacabras!

I bet they catch OBL and Chupacabras on the same day!

16 posted on 07/09/2002 1:57:56 PM PDT by GNU4U
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To: kattracks
According to Rense's Barry Chamish's article the reason for the shooting is a bungled attempt to kill Israel's Shimon Peres' granddaughter. Its tin foily, but an interesting read.
17 posted on 07/09/2002 1:58:57 PM PDT by lelio
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To: kattracks
FBI Move Closer on Motive for LA Airport Shooting

FBI Move Closer In Construction of Snow Job To Further Delude American People

18 posted on 07/09/2002 1:59:30 PM PDT by mercy
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To: kattracks
A Muslim community leader helping authorities dig up information about Hesham Mohamed Hadayet, 46, said the FBI was preparing a first-round analysis of the information gleaned from early interviews and evidence

No conflict of interest there -- maybe they should have asked the Muslims to investigate 9/11, or the homicide charges against H. Rap Brown. Or maybe they can come up with some scoops on Jose Padilla. Hey, why didn't they let Arthur Anderson conduct an investigation of themselves?

This opens up a whole new world of possibilities for law enforcement: self-investigation.

19 posted on 07/09/2002 2:00:05 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: Shermy
Charles Bishop was a Chupacabras?
20 posted on 07/09/2002 2:00:21 PM PDT by GNU4U
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To: kattracks
Are these boys simple or just slow? Did their mothers drop them at birth? Motive? hmmmmmm let me think....whatever could it be?????
21 posted on 07/09/2002 2:00:58 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: lelio
Yes it is an interesting read, and shows why not having a "reasonable" answer to "reasonable questions" creates the ability to "make sense" of the information.

Chupacabras dun it!

22 posted on 07/09/2002 2:02:01 PM PDT by GNU4U
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To: dead
They will unequivocally announce that it was a terrorist attack, but only because of the unrelenting beating they've taken in the press for their reluctance to state the obvious.

Undoubtedly....

The only thing better than completely politicized law enforcement is law enforcement that is swayed by the whims of the howling masses.

23 posted on 07/09/2002 2:02:31 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith
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To: kattracks
Let me give them a Very Loud Hint !!

It was a Terrorist Attack You Dimwits!!

24 posted on 07/09/2002 2:03:13 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: GNU4U; lelio
That article is hysterical.

He treats the Howard Stern fan's phony phonecall to CNN as a piece of evidence.

"Arty Lang stole my job! Arty Lang stole my job!"

Who is this Arty, and why did the fat white gunman with the ponytail start telling lousy jokes?

25 posted on 07/09/2002 2:03:16 PM PDT by dead
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To: kattracks
Top ten reasons for women to become homicide bombers.

10. No matter how hard she tries, can't get any of Martha Stewart's homemaking tips to work.
9. PMS. Palestinian Meshugena Syndrome.
8. So messed up she thinks that Katie Couric will inveterview her afterwards.
7. Doesn't want to be around when the Clinton's books come out.
6. Promised 72 Alec Baldwins in the hereafter. ( I told you they are messed up)
5. Too short. Sorry that's Tom Dashle.
4. Only time she gets to leave home without a veil.
3. To get out of marrying a Muslim.
2. Always wanted to be on CNN.

And at number one;

1. Once she signs up, all fellow terrorists must refer to her as a Jihottie.

26 posted on 07/09/2002 2:03:31 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: lelio
BTW.. it is not "tin foil" but instead "duct-tape headband."

More effectively cuts off circulation to the brain!

Chupacabras dun it!

27 posted on 07/09/2002 2:04:15 PM PDT by GNU4U
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To: kattracks
Sheesh, this is like watching a marathon between box turtles.
28 posted on 07/09/2002 2:04:36 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: kattracks
The scary thing is, if someone had offered this nut an explosives belt, he would have put it on and done a lot more damage. I'm afraid it may only be a matter of time.
29 posted on 07/09/2002 2:04:53 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: kattracks
Police said passengers were cleared out onto the sidewalk but the incident was cleared after about 30 minutes. No bombs were found.

I'm sure this has been stated before but could it be possible the terrorists are seing how we will react to certain situations? The "evacuated crowds" would make perfect targets.

30 posted on 07/09/2002 2:05:01 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch
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To: GNU4U
LOL.

I intended the excuse will be Acutane, rather than a chupacabra. But, you know, how would Chupacabras react to Acutane? They certainly could use it.

31 posted on 07/09/2002 2:05:43 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: dead
Chupacabras demonically possessed him and then flew him to Argebtina so he could mutilate a cow, this of course made him late for work at Taco bell so he got fired!

Duhhhhhh....

What a dumb question.

Chupacabras dun it!

32 posted on 07/09/2002 2:06:38 PM PDT by GNU4U
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To: Shermy
I thought this guy Hadayet was 42 years old last week.

Has he aged 4 years since he was gunned down?

The real hero of this story in my book has got to be the El Al security guard.

33 posted on 07/09/2002 2:09:29 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: lelio
...the reason for the shooting is a bungled attempt to kill Israel's Shimon Peres' granddaughter.

Was she jogging ala Chelsea?

Seriously though, I heard she was at the airport. It'd be a scary thought if they were stalking her or anyone else specifically.

34 posted on 07/09/2002 2:12:30 PM PDT by csvset
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To: Fred Mertz
Bump
35 posted on 07/09/2002 2:15:21 PM PDT by 4America
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To: Wyatt's Torch
On a serious note: "I worked in a building reputed to have "intelligent" people working in it."

Post 9-11 or within a week of it, there was a bomb scare, somebody's car broke down, and they called out a dog who whizzed on the wheel so they decided "i believe" to take it apart with a water cannon?

So anyway there is a crowd of people unable to get their car from the parking garage... I walk to a nearby mall, pick up a suit, get some munchies at Friday's and then walk back. They had widened the evacuation zone.

So here is a froup of "intelligent" people looking in the direction of the car, a blast would have picked up gravel, dirt, glass, and maimed if it had been a bomb.

Really what is needed is training for police officers to handle a Bus. Buses should be used to transport people from the area and use a casette recorder to verify an individual as they load the bus and then take them a safe distance, starting with the disabled, young, and old.

As I hoofed up that hill, I was not hanging around I recall a time when my back after surgery would not have allowed it.

A place out of the weather, with bathrooms etc., should be sought to avoid a situation where a second bomb hurts "good natured, well meaning, and unexperienced civillians."

In the event of an actual bomb the tape recorder can be used to verify who actually got out... that a risk reward assesment of if to go back in.

I have first aid training ROTC which covers sucking wounds etc., but I would not play the role of emergency response.

Even the artcile though interesting points to a "redirect" and the first responders have to prepare for this mode of attack.

Moral of the story is: If you have a designated response roll or procedure, follow it. If not get the hell out of the area if possible.

If there are people in wheel chairs on your floor make plans of whom will be responsible to get that individual out, make a contingency plan that say 8 people are assigned to carry out a wheelchair individual down the fire escape in the vent of a "real emerency." Hopefully four will be there.

Simple common sense planning makes all the difference.

In the private sector the corp we owned had teams, we also rellied on volunteer fire service, so we "had" to come up with our own plan, ours was more organized than the governments.

WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN OUR PEOPLE OUT!

36 posted on 07/09/2002 2:22:15 PM PDT by GNU4U
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To: csvset

According to most of the eyewitnesses, this image describes the most common standing position of this creature. The image was created taking into account 45 detailed descriptions provided by several people that claim to have seen or had contact with this being. The reason why these descriptions were used is because they were the ones that corroborated the most, according to several different testimonies.

Do eyewitness testimony count? Was Israel's Shimon Peres' granddaughter at the airport or was it Chupacabras?

Enquiring Minds Need To Know!

If she was there, it was terrorism.

37 posted on 07/09/2002 2:32:53 PM PDT by GNU4U
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To: chookter
"Quite honestly", she continued.......

Oh, Oh.
Any time anyone uses such a filler such as "Quite Honestly", or "to be perfectly frank with you"...
DANGER MR. ROBINSON!!! BULL SHET ALERT!!
38 posted on 07/09/2002 2:39:24 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: APBaer

Yeah would you look at this crap?

39 posted on 07/09/2002 2:49:22 PM PDT by GNU4U
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To: GNU4U
It looks like a match to me...

Yup... Musta been a chupacabra.

40 posted on 07/09/2002 3:33:34 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: GNU4U
"If she was there, it was terrorism."

And if she wasn't?


41 posted on 07/09/2002 5:40:03 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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