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The ongoing dissent re: TWA Fl800
7/10/02 | John E. Fiorentino

Posted on 07/10/2002 7:35:52 AM PDT by JohnFiorentino

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1 posted on 07/10/2002 7:35:52 AM PDT by JohnFiorentino
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One hundred fifty witnesses see a missile go up and destroy TWA 800 and the government is still stuck on saying it was an explosion in the fuel tank.

If 150 witnesses all say they saw the defendent in a murder case walk over and shoot the victim, it would be a short trial.

The Federal government has become a giant conspiracy, nothing more or less.

3 posted on 07/10/2002 7:53:29 AM PDT by NoLongerLurker
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Come on. Obviously all of those witnesses were drunk or on dope. Didn't you see the CIA video that clearly showed how 800 was able to violate the laws of physics and continue to climb several thousand feet after the nose of the plane was blown-off by the exploding center wing tank? Who you gonna believe, your government, or hundreds of hallucinating eye-witnesses?
4 posted on 07/10/2002 8:01:38 AM PDT by MistrX
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To: JohnFiorentino; snopercod; JeanS; Squantos; harpseal
This case is not all that difficult.

The initial event was not the explosion of the center fuel tank; another impact affected the airframe prior to that explosion.

Missiles do not require "warheads" to alter airworthiness.

There are bombs which do not leave chemical particulates to be traced among shards of metal; nor do they have fuzes.

The federal government lied about the presence of U.S. military operations and ships in the area.

There are many kinds of missiles other than "shoulder-fired."

There are many, many locations from which a missile could have been fired.

Not a good idea to discuss more ... which would reveal more.

If the federal government says what really happened, then some secrets more valuable, 'tis their thinking, will be compromised; and they would prefer to not do that.

The exclamation that "so many people could not keep a secret(!)," is sometimes true and sometimes false.

5 posted on 07/10/2002 8:02:02 AM PDT by First_Salute
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6 posted on 07/10/2002 8:03:39 AM PDT by backhoe
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7 posted on 07/10/2002 9:40:32 AM PDT by Free the USA
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To: NoLongerLurker
That would be significant if it were true, but it is not. If the "proof" of a missile is so clear, why do you feel the need to embellish the facts?
8 posted on 07/10/2002 10:00:15 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: First_Salute
If the federal government says what really happened, then some secrets more valuable, 'tis their thinking, will be compromised; and they would prefer to not do that.

In this case, as well as the Murrah Building, I think the reason was Clinton's unwillingness to confront Arab terrorists, and risk alienating them, for his on personal political purposes. Therefore, they didn't exist.

Whatever happened to the confident and determined FBI agent in charge who we saw on tv for the first two or three days assurring us that the case was about to be solved and the perps brought to justice? He disappeared like an apparition.

9 posted on 07/10/2002 10:03:49 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: JohnFiorentino
In July 1996 TWA800 was shot down. Plain and simple. The question is who? shot it down. Kalstrum, F&BI, CIA, FAA and the gubmint go to hell.
10 posted on 07/10/2002 10:24:50 AM PDT by sandydipper
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To: JohnFiorentino
Any of you Waco/OKC/TWA 800 junkies know what the total expenditure is on the investigations, thus far? Oh, wait a minute. I forgot that you DON'T CARE!!!
11 posted on 07/10/2002 10:33:11 AM PDT by Destructor
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Too many witnesses saw a missile streak heading UP towards that jetliner, to discount them all as "drunks" like FBI did would be a cover-up job!!
12 posted on 07/10/2002 10:35:19 AM PDT by timestax
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To: Rokke
Sorry fella.

There were simply too many witnesses to what happened, including military pilots who know what missiles and ordinance explosions look like.

I remember the Vietnam vet pilot of the ANG C-130 saying on TV the night of the accident that he had seen a missile go up and hit TWA 800. That ONE observation alone is enough for me. No embellishment. Pure fact.

Everything to the contrary is US Grade "A" DISINFORMATION.

13 posted on 07/10/2002 11:23:05 AM PDT by NoLongerLurker
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To: Destructor
Any of you Waco/OKC/TWA 800 junkies know what the total expenditure is on the investigations, thus far? Oh, wait a minute. I forgot that you DON'T CARE!!!

Now excuse me for stating the obvious here but such an investigation of an attack on a US flag air carrier over domestic waters is a potential act of war which is one of the primary purposes of the federal government. I submit that an honest airing of the established facts would lead to identification of what missle was used and who fired it, The net result would be an even angrier American populace something that is dangerous to the Washington appartchiks.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

14 posted on 07/10/2002 11:50:35 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: harpseal
This is yet another Clinton scandal that has been swept under the rug! The truth will never be found no matter how many investigations are done, or how many millions are spent! In all three cases the critical evidence has been destroyed, and any witnesses that might have talked are dead!! You Waco/OKC/TWA 800 Junkies are wasting your time, and my tax dollars!!!
15 posted on 07/10/2002 1:25:46 PM PDT by Destructor
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To: timestax
"Too many witnesses saw a missile streak heading UP towards that jetliner, to discount them all as "drunks" like FBI did would be a cover-up job!!"

Agreed. They covered it up, and Mr. & Mrs. John Q. Public bought it! You're flogging a dead horse!!

16 posted on 07/10/2002 1:29:04 PM PDT by Destructor
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To: NoLongerLurker
Well, at least you are no longer claiming 150 witnesses saw "a missile go up and destroy TWA 800." Now if you can just produce one iota of proof that an ANG C-130 pilot said he saw a missile go up and hit TWA 800, I'll really be impressed. And since that is the ONE observation that has convinced you, you must have proof.
17 posted on 07/10/2002 1:43:19 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Destructor
You Waco/OKC/TWA 800 Junkies are wasting your time, and my tax dollars!!!

So let's just hide our heads in the sand and just pretend that it will all get better, is that your answer?

Center fuel tank my a**. The fact is that 100's of people in a civilian airplane were shot out of the sky while ascending through peaceful, well charted civilian airspace and nothing has been done about it by now and, it looks like, nothing ever will be done about it.

This is just another example of the government's choice to abdicate its role as protector of its citizens in favor of a role of protector to the well-connected few who are involved when stuff goes horribly wrong.

18 posted on 07/10/2002 1:43:56 PM PDT by ponyespresso
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To: Rokke
The proof that I can give you is that I remeber that the ANG pilot's name from the c-130 was a Major Stratemeier or something very similar. Obviously I cannot show you the TV clip. It was less than a minute in length and I didn't record it. It was NEVER repeated, by the way.
19 posted on 07/10/2002 1:57:20 PM PDT by NoLongerLurker
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To: NoLongerLurker
Lurker No Longer:

There are certain people who continually demand PROOF of things who, no matter what evidence you present, will ALWAYS give you a reason why it will not suffice.

For example, you could show them a videotape of the actual event and they would tell you that it proves nothing because you cannot PROVE that it was not fabricated doctored etc etc. Similarly, you could show them laboratory spectrometer analysis of metal taken from the wreckage and they would argue that the results PROVE NOTHING because they could have been contaminated etc etc.

It is best to avoid the temptation to engage these posters in debate as they are likely paid to post these messages and will NEVER be satisfied.

20 posted on 07/10/2002 2:25:21 PM PDT by MickMan51
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