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Bonds admits to taking supplements, protein pills
The Orange County Register ^ | July 11, 2002 | Staff

Posted on 07/11/2002 7:54:34 AM PDT by EveningStar

Edited on 04/14/2004 10:05:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The San Francisco Giants' home run king, Barry Bonds, says he's used creatine supplements and protein pills, according to a televised interview.

Bonds' acknowledgment he took the legal supplements comes in the face of much criticism and scrutiny about steroid use among Major League Baseball players.


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KEYWORDS: barrybonds; baseball; bunning; creatine; drugs; osborne; sports; steroids
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1 posted on 07/11/2002 7:54:34 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
This isn't really news, is it?
2 posted on 07/11/2002 7:56:04 AM PDT by Huck
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To: EveningStar
creatine supplements and protein pills

Both of which you can buy in most super-markets, or health food stores.

3 posted on 07/11/2002 7:56:53 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: EveningStar
Oh my God, what a HUGE story!!! Bonds takes supplemets and Creatine! Stop the presses!
4 posted on 07/11/2002 7:57:31 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: EveningStar

5 posted on 07/11/2002 7:58:59 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: EveningStar
AP (San Fransicso)
It has become known through anonymous sources that Barry Bonds, the power hitting right fielder from the Giants, uses devices called "weights". These "weights" are heavy, blunt objects that are thought to strengthen muscles through over working them and then allowing them to heal stronger than before. ...Developing...
6 posted on 07/11/2002 8:00:54 AM PDT by smith288
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To: EveningStar

7 posted on 07/11/2002 8:01:37 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: EveningStar
OMG! Does he take vitamins too???!!??

NeverGore :^)

8 posted on 07/11/2002 8:01:52 AM PDT by nevergore
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To: jlogajan
Bonds is pretty much in step with what he thinks is the trend. The most interesting thing I took out of his interview with Leno last night was his suggestion that "Testing was fine, just not random testing. Random testing violates privacy rights". He didn't just dream this up. His lawyer(s) coached him on how to handle the interview, rest assured.

So the prevailing attitude in California which we can assume will eventually push it's way across the US is that the act of testing should be on a scheduled basis, to give the individual time to "clean up their act". This is tantamount to saying, hell yes we smoke grass and pop roids. We just want to know when you want us to abstain and we will go through that process to prove we are NOT ADDICTS, and therefore functioning citizens.

I think Bonds is a jerk like everyone else but I kinda like this approach. It's a pretty good compromise. I don't think random testing is a positive thing to be doing to trusted employees, employees who have done a good job.

Randomly testing convicted felons or people with on the job accidents yes, but not people who haven't done anything wrong.

I believe this is a hot button social issue and will only gain in importance as more good honest hard working people get run out on a rail over a postive THC which we know stays in the body for a long time as opposed to Cocaine which you could abuse like mad, lay off for 3 days and test clean. Which person is less stable and yet more likely to keep their jobs in a random testing environment?

Comments??

9 posted on 07/11/2002 8:05:42 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: EveningStar
OMG! He likely eats green leafy veggies too!

Oh, the humanity!

10 posted on 07/11/2002 8:09:07 AM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: EveningStar
This is the stupidest thing I have read all day. "Admit to", as if it was a crime, or somehow morally questionable.

"Paradox admits to having sex with his wife, story at 11..."

Now if the above headline were about Bill Clinton, that might actually be newsworthy..

11 posted on 07/11/2002 8:10:23 AM PDT by Paradox
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To: EveningStar
"admits to"???? WTH?

This is like a headline saying that the President has admitted having a sexual relationship with his own wife.

12 posted on 07/11/2002 8:12:52 AM PDT by Sloth
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To: EveningStar
This just in: "The sky is blue!"
13 posted on 07/11/2002 8:13:09 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Paradox
Great minds...
14 posted on 07/11/2002 8:13:49 AM PDT by Sloth
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To: EveningStar
All I know is Bonds went from 20-30 HRs per year to 80 HRs a year while cracking the average homer about 500 feet into the Pacific...

Creatine and protein ain't that magical.

15 posted on 07/11/2002 8:13:52 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: kinghorse
I believe this is a hot button social issue and will only gain in importance as more good honest hard working people get run out on a rail over a postive THC which we know stays in the body for a long time as opposed to Cocaine which you could abuse like mad, lay off for 3 days and test clean. Which person is less stable and yet more likely to keep their jobs in a random testing environment?

Sounds like a little situational ethics to me.

If THC is prohibited, then it's prohibited.

The fact that cocaine is eliminated quickly has nothing to do with it.

If you're not doing anything wrong, then who cares if they test you, random or not?

You don't have to have a job in the Major Leagues.

If you don't like their rules, then don't work for them.

If you do work for them (and happen to be making gazoodles of money because of it), abide by their rules, and don't be a crybaby if you get caught.

16 posted on 07/11/2002 8:15:10 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: F16Fighter
Creatine and protein ain't that magical.

No, but sorry pitching, small strike zones and juiced up balls explain it.

17 posted on 07/11/2002 8:16:08 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: EveningStar
Creatine shmeatine. He still has to make contact with a sphere that is dipping, curving, sliding, and/or moving at over 90 miles per hour.
18 posted on 07/11/2002 8:16:12 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: F16Fighter
Nor are weights. 56 lbs in 4 years....get a grip people.

There is only ONE WAY TO ROCK like that. Especially considering that 8 months out of the year his JOB deprives his body of the requisite rest to grow Muscle.

Pass the Juice Barry!!!

JFTR....Personally I think If they want to they should (sanely of course) but, the Dishonesty pi$$es me off.

19 posted on 07/11/2002 8:17:14 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: FreeTally
Doesn't explain 56 lbs in 4 years.
20 posted on 07/11/2002 8:17:59 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: nevergore
OMG! Does he take vitamins too???!!??

It's even worse than that. Many players have been seen replenishing bodily fluids and electrolytes with an orange-colored liquid substance right in the middle of a game!

21 posted on 07/11/2002 8:18:55 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: F16Fighter
Nor does it make your head size increase by two full sizes, not not 7 1/8 to 7 3/8. But from 7 3/8 to 9 3/8, look at the size of his head now!
Can you say Human Growth Hormone?
There, I knew you could.
22 posted on 07/11/2002 8:20:56 AM PDT by dtel
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To: F16Fighter
find out how to snap your wrists at the right time can solve a power hitters lack of production. But i think Barry is a prima donna with little respect for the game. if he had any respect he would refuse to be paid ungodly amounts to prove he wants baseball to survive, not just his overflowing bank account. Dont get me wrong, I want to get paid high as anyone in my field, but I can imagine the outrage if I made 50million because I knew how to do origami better than anyone... Its rediculous.
23 posted on 07/11/2002 8:21:06 AM PDT by smith288
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To: hobbes1
Doesn't explain 56 lbs in 4 years.

Today's my 4th wedding anniversary and, coincidently, I've gained exactly 56lbs since my wedding.

And I've seen people get huge using Creatine and lots of Whey protein supplements. It happens folks.

24 posted on 07/11/2002 8:22:23 AM PDT by Frumanchu
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To: dawn53
Bullshyatt. Teatotalers during prohibition had the same set of blinders on. There is something called an "unjust law". It's a law written to serve the interests of the minority openly flaunted by the majority. Ultimately it gets repealed or the system breaks down because the majority selectively obeying the law is not a just system. It is makes a mockery of the system. You might want to brush up on that concept.
25 posted on 07/11/2002 8:22:38 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Creatine shmeatine. He still has to make contact with a sphere that is dipping, curving, sliding, and/or moving at over 90 miles per hour.

Very true but those 350 long fly outs to the power alleys now become 400 foot homers
26 posted on 07/11/2002 8:22:56 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: F16Fighter
Bonds also played his entire career up until two seasons ago in Candlestick Park and Three Rivers which are two stadiums not particularly conducive to home run hitting. Despite that, Bonds hit over 40 homers three of those seasons at the stick and would most assuredly have hit 50 in 1994 had the strike not occurred.
27 posted on 07/11/2002 8:23:23 AM PDT by GoreIsLove
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To: Frumanchu
Not like that you haven't....It does not happen, especailly after 28.
28 posted on 07/11/2002 8:24:39 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: kinghorse
The minority in this case are the multinationals who hold a monopoly over the production and distribution of alchoholic beverages and tobbaco products. Tobacco and alchohol (of any decent quality) requires more expertise and expense than the personal consumer has at his disposal to effect manufacture. Not the same problem hemp. It grows on the side of the road. That can't be good for Anheuser Busch's bottom line.
29 posted on 07/11/2002 8:26:47 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: kinghorse
I agree that there is such a thing as an unjust law, but are you seriously suggesting that marijuana prohibition is 'flaunted by the majority'???
30 posted on 07/11/2002 8:27:52 AM PDT by Sloth
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To: EveningStar
The reporter should have just handed him a cup and asked him to fill it. His reaction (like Sosa's) would speak volumes.
31 posted on 07/11/2002 8:29:18 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: EveningStar
Because of this, as far as I'm concerned, Roger Maris' 61 single season home run record has yet to be broken. Sosa, McGwire, and Bonds all deserve ****** (asterisks) next to their "records."
32 posted on 07/11/2002 8:30:58 AM PDT by Jay W
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To: Wolfie
I outed Sosa, here, as soon as the issue came up. The Carribbean is Notorius for Dianabol....(and where does Juicin Slammin Sammy Spend his offseason...?
33 posted on 07/11/2002 8:32:23 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: EveningStar
former Nebraska football coach ... college football coaches, boy those guys are great models with pay-offs to key players, their demands that their athletes be scholars of PE and the huge costs to universities for the football programs at the expense of other academic pursuits. Great choice to pursue standards in professional athletics!
34 posted on 07/11/2002 8:33:04 AM PDT by RWG
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To: Jay W
Ummmmm.....Maris never faced a Specialized Reliever...?
35 posted on 07/11/2002 8:33:13 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Oh, yeah. I get it. Kids are more interested in soccer than baseball. Cute. What country do you live in? ;)
36 posted on 07/11/2002 8:34:30 AM PDT by TankerKC
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To: F16Fighter
All I know is Bonds went from 20-30 HRs per year to 80 HRs

No, Bonds hasn't hit less than 30 home runs since 1992. Bonds currently has a string of 10 consecutive 30+ HR seasonsk, the second longest in Major League history, after Jimmie Foxx's 12.

Barry Bonds OF updated through Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:34 AM EDT
Go to Player Bio >>
STATS | SPLITS | GAME BY GAME LOG | HITTING CHART | POSTSEASON & ALL-STAR
Hitting Stats: Next Stats >>
SEASON TEAM G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI TB BB SO SB CS OBP SLG AVG
1986     Pittsburgh Pirates 113 413 72 92 26 3 16 48 172 65 102 36 7 .330 .416 .223
1987     Pittsburgh Pirates 150 551 99 144 34 9 25 59 271 54 88 32 10 .329 .492 .261
1988     Pittsburgh Pirates 144 538 97 152 30 5 24 58 264 72 82 17 11 .368 .491 .283
1989     Pittsburgh Pirates 159 580 96 144 34 6 19 58 247 93 93 32 10 .351 .426 .248
1990     Pittsburgh Pirates 151 519 104 156 32 3 33 114 293 93 83 52 13 .406 .565 .301
1991     Pittsburgh Pirates 153 510 95 149 28 5 25 116 262 107 73 43 13 .410 .514 .292
1992     Pittsburgh Pirates 140 473 109 147 36 5 34 103 295 127 69 39 8 .456 .624 .311
1993     San Francisco Giants 159 539 129 181 38 4 46 123 365 126 79 29 12 .458 .677 .336
1994     San Francisco Giants 112 391 89 122 18 1 37 81 253 74 43 29 9 .426 .647 .312
1995     San Francisco Giants 144 506 109 149 30 7 33 104 292 120 83 31 10 .431 .577 .294
1996     San Francisco Giants 158 517 122 159 27 3 42 129 318 151 76 40 7 .461 .615 .308
1997     San Francisco Giants 159 532 123 155 26 5 40 101 311 145 87 37 8 .446 .585 .291
1998     San Francisco Giants 156 552 120 167 44 7 37 122 336 130 92 28 12 .438 .609 .303
1999     San Francisco Giants 102 355 91 93 20 2 34 83 219 73 62 15 2 .389 .617 .262
2000     San Francisco Giants 143 480 129 147 28 4 49 106 330 117 77 11 3 .440 .688 .306
2001     San Francisco Giants 153 476 129 156 32 2 73 137 411 177 93 13 3 .515 .863 .328
2002     San Francisco Giants 82 232 68 80 16 2 27 57 181 109 28 3 1 .562 .780 .345
Career Totals 2378 8164 1781 2393 499 73 594 1599 4820 1833 1310 487 139 .423 .590 .293

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37 posted on 07/11/2002 8:37:51 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
Okay -- make that "All I know is Bonds went from 35-45 HRs a year to 70+"...;-) But what of the now pedestrian 500 ft. home run?

And I'll tell ya something -- the day Indian's Omar Visquel of all people has 10 dingers at the all-star break, is the day the Major League home run has become a complete joke.

BTW -- Have you EVER seen as many opposite field broken bat homers as in the past few years?

38 posted on 07/11/2002 8:49:57 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: FreeTally
Can lousy pitching, small strike zones and juiced up balls fully explain daily 500 ft. HRs and broke-bat opposite field dingers?
39 posted on 07/11/2002 8:52:40 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: EveningStar; hobbes1; dubyaismypresident
The Minnesota Twins and the Texas Rangers are both testament to the fact that Baseball doesn't need Senators; Bunning and Osborne now demonstrate that Baseball doesn't need Representatives either.
40 posted on 07/11/2002 8:52:48 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: hobbes1
I agree with you. Bonds could probably toss Hulk Hogan outta the ring as juiced as he is...
41 posted on 07/11/2002 8:54:36 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
explain daily 500 ft. HRs and broke-bat opposite field dingers?

Neither is a daily occurrence.

42 posted on 07/11/2002 8:56:47 AM PDT by GoreIsLove
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To: Sloth
The laws prohibiting pot use are flaunted on a mass scale in my opinion. If you include anyone over the age of 14 years old, you would probably get a plus 50% of the sample group saying the laws prohibiting possession of amounts used for personal consumption is unjust. I only backed it up to 14 years of age because kids who are apprehended for possession are affected by the laws just as severely as adults. Maybe the punishments aren't as severe but the process of being marked a criminal are identical (overnight in jail, finger printed, requirement to retain legal counsel). So yeah, I would say HELL YES it's an unjust law.
43 posted on 07/11/2002 8:58:34 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: hobbes1
Doesn't explain 56 lbs in 4 years

I've gained anywhere from 25-30 lbs (it fluctuates) in the last 2 years on nothing but protein powder & weights. And I'm in my 30s and am hardly a pro athlete with all of the specialized workouts, diet, etc.

People I know that take creatine have experienced a quick boost of 10-15 lbs very soon after starting it.

44 posted on 07/11/2002 8:58:38 AM PDT by gdani
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To: dtel
LOL -- Bonds head does appear a smidgeon Neanderthal in appearance. Has his hat size really increased that much?? (7 3/8 to 9 3/8?)

Can anyone post a side-by-side head shot of Bonds @1992 and Bonds @2002?

45 posted on 07/11/2002 8:58:45 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: kinghorse
The minority in this case are the multinationals who hold a monopoly over the production and distribution of alchoholic beverages and tobbaco products.

Allow me to dispute this tiny point. Anybody can brew beer. And damn good beer at that.

46 posted on 07/11/2002 8:59:16 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: F16Fighter
it amuses me, these peoplespout off about how easy it is to get that big, with ZERO practical knowledge of what is involved....
47 posted on 07/11/2002 8:59:51 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
Source?
48 posted on 07/11/2002 9:00:25 AM PDT by GoreIsLove
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To: GoreIsLove
Do you watch 'Sport Center'?

I may be engaging in slight hyperbole, but 450-475 ft HRs seem to be quite common.

49 posted on 07/11/2002 9:01:03 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: GoreIsLove
Source for what? the weight gain....Several recent articles...
50 posted on 07/11/2002 9:02:04 AM PDT by hobbes1
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