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Under Fire, US Modifies Objections to Global Court
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Posted on 07/11/2002 9:14:34 AM PDT by milestogo
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To: McGavin999
Clinton signed the treatyEven Clinton withdrew his support of the ICC and refused to recognise it. Further, no treaty is valid without the Senate's vote.
To: B4Ranch
Any red blooded American SHOULD be hot over this one. Don't hold it in. Spread the word. Make a plan. 99% of Americans would hotly oppose this madness. I have a project for this weekend I see. Was hoping to have some fun. But this lunacy must be stopped.
Bush better clear things up, and fast! Or third parties will eat the GOP alive. This puts our backs to the wall.
To: milestogo
``We have just emerged from a century that witnessed the evils of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and Idi Amin, and the Holocaust, the Rwandan genocide, and ethnic cleansing in the former Yugoslavia,'' Canadian Ambassador Paul Heinbecker said. ``Surely, we have all learned the fundamental lesson of this bloodiest of centuries, which is that impunity from prosecution for grievous crimes must end,'' he said. Just when I want to try to tolerate and like Canadians, some dumb ba$tard canadian jerko makes a statement like the one above comparing US to the evils of the world. I think I'll just stick to hating canadian socialist jerks and no longer try to be objective. Just another country that hates us.
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posted on
07/12/2002 3:08:09 AM PDT
by
RushLake
To: OKCSubmariner
A message to the military.
Our brave men and women in a war against terrorism. The last thing they need is to worry about this. Our military must not allow the unlawful arrest of a single soldier, regarless of what any treasonous president says. This is a defining moment for America's freedom.
Unless there is some precedent I am not aware of, ANY ORDERS TO ALLOW A LAW ABIDING SOLDIER TO BE TAKEN BY A FOREIGN COURT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND THUS UNLAWFUL. I STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU DEFEND YOUR FELLOW SOLDIERS WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. This also would make the UN a clear and present danger to the security of the United States.
To: Digger
My friends, we are done as a Sovereign Nation. i and a lot of others have been betrayed by Bush and it disgusts me to see what is going on in this country. First he stands strong against the ICC and then he gets weak kneed. My friends, Bush is no Conservative, no, he only played the part to get elected and now he spits on the very people that got him elected.
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posted on
07/12/2002 3:23:48 AM PDT
by
rambo316
To: Digger
I heard about this yesterday. You have nailed it.
PS. Don't blame me. I voted for Phillips. ;-).
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posted on
07/12/2002 4:36:06 AM PDT
by
sauropod
To: Jagdgewehr
I have no words to express the utter disappointment I feel towards the Bush and his administration. It seems as though it just gets a little worse each day. The stripped-pants set at the State Department are successfully appealing to Bushs Globalist nature.
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posted on
07/12/2002 4:53:14 AM PDT
by
bimbo
To: B4Ranch
The frustrating thing is that Pat Buchanan wrote a column (Monday's, I think), warning of this. He was of course blasted by the Bush goosesteppers. What do they say now?
Are they intellectually dishonest or intellectually disenterested?
To: Paul Ross
. There is no way this organization won't be swiftly morphed into an anti-capitalist anti-American witch-hunting society which will be routinely calling for trials of American and allied policy-makersIt is rapidly coming down to the US and Israel against the rest of the world. The only question is what side will the UK fall on?
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posted on
07/12/2002 5:07:20 AM PDT
by
copycat
To: Digger
All talk and no guts.....Bush just sold your children's and grandchildren's birthrights down the tube os socialist Orwellian slavery....time to put another Clinton in and let the damned thing implode....gotta' hit bottom before you can really start back up !!! Harsh but true...otherwise just go along to git'along
To: McGavin999
Finally, a cool head on this thread. All this does is make a show that we can participate in diplospeak. Bush has no intention of subjecting our soldiers & statesman to this garbage. I loved the following from Mark Steyn posted
yesterday:
So the Bush plan is perfect: heads we win, tails you lose. Thats also how some of these other international questions are being framed: heads, the International Criminal Court will be modified to our satisfaction; tails, we wont have to do any more lousy UN peacekeeping.
He's so right. Since we have no intention of ever submitting to the ICC, this is a good way to remove our troops from baby-sitting in harm's way for these clowns.
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posted on
07/12/2002 5:33:58 AM PDT
by
LisaFab
To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Only if our people and gov't succumbs to the power.
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posted on
07/12/2002 5:56:54 AM PDT
by
B4Ranch
To: Cacophonous
Many things are just much too frightening for many people to allow themselves to consider.
The peaceful overturn of America's gov't and courts to the UN is one of these frightening events.
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posted on
07/12/2002 6:00:41 AM PDT
by
B4Ranch
To: Arthur Wildfire! March
For all the talk, there is not much difference between the GOP and the RATS. WE NEED A STRONG 3rd PARTY TO CORRECT THIS SITUATION.
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posted on
07/12/2002 6:09:10 AM PDT
by
B4Ranch
To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Let's be clear: This is NOT merely a war tribunal. This world criminal court can decree that owning a gun is terrorism. It can decree that cutting a tree without UN permission is an act of 'war' against humanity via the environmnet. Thanks for pointing this out. The administration has been making noise about protecting US troops and public officals from this abomination. All well and good to exempt the king and the king's men from the tender "justice" of the socialist world government in waiting but no mention of protecting individual American citizens.
Take a look at all of the things the UN considers to be crimes against humanity and realize that damn near every American is guilty of violating UN expectations in some way and it does not matter to this court if the US has ratified these treaties.
Time is short.
We must decide.
You cannot have it both ways, president bush.
Regards
J.R.
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posted on
07/12/2002 6:21:36 AM PDT
by
NMC EXP
To: NMC EXP
Wouldn't it be nice if Bush found his backbone and evicted the UN from the US? I would have a unremovable smile for the rest of my life if he did this for America.
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posted on
07/12/2002 7:44:16 AM PDT
by
B4Ranch
To: B4Ranch
I would have a unremovable smile for the rest of my life if he did this for America.The only perpetual smile you're likely to have you starving, naked, UN serf is your vertical smile from being stooped in the back!
Criticism of the UN is not acceptable in accordance with
Article 30. So now...Quiet! Back to work. Quityurbichin. /sarcasm & cracking whip
Scary, isn't it!
To: philman_36
Worse..........PROBABLE!
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posted on
07/13/2002 4:00:27 AM PDT
by
B4Ranch
To: lowbridge
It was just a matter of time before George "One Worlder" Bush signed onto the World Court Scam. He had to make a show of objection to please the home crowd, but only a fool would have believed that he would've refused it forever.
"Eine Leute, Eine Welt, Ein Govenment Über Allen."
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