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Can't get rid of Macromedia, Shockwave, Flash Player popups.
JimVT | 07/12/2002 | JimVT

Posted on 07/12/2002 4:25:31 AM PDT by JimVT

How do we kill Macromedia popup ads?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Unclassified; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: another; intrusion; macromedia; microsoft
Has anyone found a solution to the insidious ads that keep popping up on some web sites practically demanding that one install "Macromedia", or "Shockwave" or Flash Player"?

I have e-mail correspondence with one Charmaine Ramirez at Macromedia Customer Service MM who continues to tell me that it's all someone else's fault.

Says Ms. Ramirez: "...if you are trying to access a certain website other than Macromedia that contains certain graphics or animation, it will continuously pop up on your screen as long as you don't download the plug-in.

Macromedia did not give you that message. It is your system that is prompting you to download. (Note: I didn't know my system had a brain.) Certain websites use our product to create animations or requires web players in it (sic). If you do not have the proper plug-in it will prompt you to download the Shockwave or Flash Player. (Note: She doesn't say that it 'prompts' you three or four times before giving up.)

We understand your situation regarding this matter.

Once you download the free plug-in, this warning message will stop appearing"

So if I understand Macromedia and Ms. Ramirez correctly, the way to get my Internet Explorer to stop asking me to install Macromedia is to INSTALL Macromedia.

Do you suppose George Orwell is involved here?

Any help appreciated.

1 posted on 07/12/2002 4:25:31 AM PDT by JimVT
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To: JimVT
She's right. If you want the gfx and animations on the site(s) you visit, download the plug. If not, don't. Your choice.

But when you visit a page that has these features, and you don't have the plug, the site is going to keep telling you to choose between getting the plug or not seeing the gfx.

2 posted on 07/12/2002 4:40:51 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: JimVT
Do you suppose George Orwell is involved here?

Why all the fuss? Are you on a 2400 baud dial up?

3 posted on 07/12/2002 4:42:16 AM PDT by Glenn
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To: JimVT
AFAIK, Flash and Shockwave have not been hacked yet, unlike Java and Javascript. So installing the plug-in is relatively low risk.
4 posted on 07/12/2002 4:43:51 AM PDT by tictoc
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To: JimVT
Try a browser that allows you to reject ALL pop up windows. You can reject all pop-ups if this option is checked, whether they involve Flash, or complaints about Flash not being present. Mozilla, Netscape, and Opera all offer this as a "Preference." I haven't used Explorer in a while, although it works OK, and I don't remember if this is an available option for it--I tend to think not, at least as far as versions up to 5.5.

I can't think of an easy solution to specifically reject Flash oriented material. Disabling popups gets everything.
5 posted on 07/12/2002 4:43:57 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: JimVT
It can be a little time consuming, but I can tell you what I've done to kiss the pops-ups good bye.

In IE internet zone I've disabled javascript, ActiveX, and cookies. Those sites I frequent that need javascript, like for e-mail, I've put them in another zone with it turned on. For the ones that need cookies, (like FR), they've been placed in a zone with cookies on (javascript off). Some sites like hotmail and radio require cookies and javascript and those few are in a zone with both features turned on.

Bottom line is 99% of the web sites I visit are in the internet zone and I have completely eliminated the problem.

6 posted on 07/12/2002 4:44:06 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: JimVT
If you are using a late version of IE, you can disable "Install On Demand".

Tools:Internet Options:Advanced:Browser:Enable Install On Demand (IE/Other).

7 posted on 07/12/2002 4:44:34 AM PDT by Glenn
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To: JimVT
Do you suppose George Orwell is involved here?

Although I have a relatively limited knowledge on the life of George Orwell, I do not believe he was involved in anything related to computers.

8 posted on 07/12/2002 4:44:55 AM PDT by danzaroni
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To: JimVT
It's true, your machine has a brian. Kill it now. Before it can organize all the other computers in your community and they take over and launch the nukes!

Seriously? OK. If a webpage is designed to be viewed with Shockwave or Flash, it is assumed that when you try to access the page in question you'd probably would like to see the page and all it has to offer. That would then be only possible if the proper plug-ins were installed on your computer so that your browser could display the page as intended and designed on your monitor. Yes, the server where the offending page is held has software that will query your computer to see if the proper plug-ins are installed and if not, offer to upload and install them for you. If you don't want them installed on your machine, then reply NO. But if you really want to see the animated website, I'm afraid you'll have to swallow hard and let the software be installed on your machine.

At least they ask, as opposed to "Gator", that insidious spyware that many commercial site let loose on the viewing public. Only way to stop it from getting on your harddrive is to block access with firewall software.

9 posted on 07/12/2002 4:45:16 AM PDT by woofer
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To: JimVT
Try Nemo's Ad Zapper

http://ca.geocities.com/iamnemo2001/AdZapper.html

10 posted on 07/12/2002 4:54:16 AM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: JimVT
I've been using a free Pop-Up Stopper and it gets 95% of all pop-pages. Click HERE
11 posted on 07/12/2002 4:59:30 AM PDT by Texas Jack
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To: JimVT
I am a Flash programmer/designer. Let's hear it for conservative Flash programmers! We are a rare breed! I went to the New York City Flashforward conference in 2000. It was a leftist/liberal compost heap.

Well designed Flash pages include flash detection that asks you politely if you would like to download the plugin or would you like to see the non-flash content. That being said...why not go ahead and download it? There is a lot of cool stuff being done in Flash.

12 posted on 07/12/2002 5:10:45 AM PDT by Drawsing
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To: JimVT
Get the plugin and be done with it.
It works...it will NOT harm your computer.
It's fast, too.
13 posted on 07/12/2002 5:36:26 AM PDT by Still Using Air
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To: Drawsing
...asks you politely if you would like to download the plugin

Thanks for your response

Here's my perspective.

Yesterday, I went to 5 or more sites in a row with each one asking me ("politely") if I wanted to dl Macromedia or Flash Player or whatever.

Each time I clicked "NO".......only to go to the next page on the SAME site and be asked the same question again....TWICE!!

After 5x2 annoying questions I asked Macromedia (see above) how to get rid of the requests. They, in effect, said it's my problem.

As you can see from the (very good) responses to my post, I have received some excellent methods of solving the problem.

But it is not because of any help from Microsoft or Macromedia.

Internet users should not have to go to all this trouble to rid themselves of unwanted intrusions.

14 posted on 07/12/2002 5:43:56 AM PDT by JimVT
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To: JimVT
Internet users should not have to go to all this trouble to rid themselves of unwanted intrusions.

If you knocked on the door of a house in your neighborhood because you wanted to look inside, would you consider it intrusive if the homeowner asked you a question first?

15 posted on 07/12/2002 5:50:54 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Man....that is really strrrrrrrrretching the point!

I asked a simple question about solving a problem that I shouldn't have in the first place and every other response tells me to just bite the bullet and be a good soldier.

Bushwa!

Am I on Free Republic here or did I take a wrong turn somewhere?

16 posted on 07/12/2002 5:58:29 AM PDT by JimVT
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To: JimVT
I think some of us are trying to tell you that you don't have a problem, yet you remain adamant that you do.
17 posted on 07/12/2002 6:01:52 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: JimVT
Why would you NOT want Macromedia or Flash Players on your computer? Without these plug-in devices you are missing quite a lot.
18 posted on 07/12/2002 6:26:25 AM PDT by kipj
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To: JimVT
You think this is a "Free Republic" issue? Ha. Yes, you took a wrong turn. Whine and cheese is in aisle 4.
19 posted on 07/12/2002 7:23:39 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: kipj
Without these plug-in devices you are missing quite a lot.

Like what? (NB, I use lynx for a lot of my browsing)

20 posted on 07/12/2002 7:30:51 AM PDT by palmer
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To: JimVT
But it is not because of any help from Microsoft or Macromedia.

That's because neither of those companies are your problem. If you wish to complain to someone, it should be to the website designers who are using Macromedia and Flash in their layouts. Macromedia and Microsoft are simply helping you by telling you that the content that the web designer is offering you is not available to you without their products. I'm sorry that you see some kind of corporate plot involved, but that simply isn't the case.

21 posted on 07/12/2002 7:39:43 AM PDT by truenospinzone
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To: savedbygrace
You think this is a "Free Republic" issue? Ha. Yes, you took a wrong turn. Whine and cheese is in aisle 4.

Yeah...I thought it was a Free Republic issue of general interest since more than likely other Freepers have encountered the same situation.

And it is at least as relevant as some of YOUR recent posts about "Topless Car Wash" or "Troubled by being short?"

Thanks for your courteous response.

22 posted on 07/12/2002 10:30:03 AM PDT by JimVT
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To: JimVT
You're welcome. Glad to help. Always ready to inject humor into a thread.

You know Jim, if you walk out your front door and get hit in the face with a cream pie, and that happens for a dozen or so days in a row, at some point you learn that you should change your routine (or have the joker arrested for trespassing) or expect that the same thing is going to happen when you open the door.

It's like that with this Flash/Macromedia popup thing. It's going to happen, and you're not going to change the world by whining about it.

If you haven't gotten that message from this thread, then maybe some more humor IS in order. Either we laugh at something else, or we laugh at poor Jim, who doesn't get it. Your choice, maybe.

23 posted on 07/12/2002 11:05:23 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace
It's going to happen, and you're not going to change the world by whining about it.

Well..this is my last comment on this topic.

"It" isn't going to happen anymore to me since respondent Glenn gave me a simple straightforward answer to the problem.

I can't fathom how asking for help on a what I perceive to be a problem can be construed as "whining".

And your brand of "humor" is a bit snide for my taste.

24 posted on 07/12/2002 11:28:39 AM PDT by JimVT
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To: JimVT
You have my permission to pass right on by without reading my posts, seeing as how they're so offensive to you. No pain here.
25 posted on 07/12/2002 4:55:22 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: kipj
Flash player is used on nytimes.com for advertisements I do not want. I am not missing anything. If I try to stop the install, it erases the article I am in the middle of reading, then says I have a server error. Do you work for these jerks or what?
26 posted on 03/08/2003 9:34:43 AM PST by Platod (Now I don't want anything from Macromedia on my computer)
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To: Glenn
I am on a 56K modem and I don't want any more popups. Simple as that
27 posted on 03/08/2003 9:35:53 AM PST by Platod (Now I don't want anything from Macromedia on my computer)
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To: Drawsing
Do you consider ads coo stuff. That is why I use a popup stopper.
28 posted on 03/08/2003 9:36:50 AM PST by Platod (Now I don't want anything from Macromedia on my computer)
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To: JimVT
"...(Note: I didn't know my system had a brain.) ..."
- - -
DOH !
29 posted on 03/08/2003 9:37:33 AM PST by error99 ("I believe stupidity should hurt."...used by permission from null and void all copyrights apply...)
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To: Still Using Air
I don't want the plug-in. Why push it down my throat. Maybe if we all disabled flash player, the jerks who use it would get fired and we could all move a little faster.
30 posted on 03/08/2003 9:38:56 AM PST by Platod (Now I don't want anything from Macromedia on my computer)
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To: JimVT
You can also uninstall the Macromedia plugin. For PC's, go to Start, choose Settings, choose Add/Remove Programs, find the Macromedia entry and uninstall it.
31 posted on 03/08/2003 9:40:36 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have learned, over the years, to NEVER assume ANYTHING..)
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To: Still Using Air
The only one that ever gave me any problems
was that stupid REAL player.
32 posted on 03/08/2003 9:42:07 AM PST by error99 ("I believe stupidity should hurt."...used by permission from null and void all copyrights apply...)
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To: Platod
I don't want the plug-in. Why push it down my throat. Maybe if we all disabled flash player, the jerks who use it would get fired and we could all move a little faster.

Flash and Macromedia rocks. If you don't have it installed, you will never be able to view my Inaugeral Ball presentation.

33 posted on 03/08/2003 9:43:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have learned, over the years, to NEVER assume ANYTHING..)
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To: JimVT
Has anyone found a solution to the insidious ads that keep popping up on some web sites practically demanding that one install "Macromedia", or "Shockwave" or Flash Player"?

Just say "yes" to the download and stop whining about it.

34 posted on 03/08/2003 9:44:49 AM PST by montag813
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To: savedbygrace
You have my permission to pass right on by without reading my posts, seeing as how they're so offensive to you.

No, I insist on reading them, then responding in twenty-page diatribes, about how they are so terrible.

It's much more satisfying.

35 posted on 03/08/2003 9:44:58 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have learned, over the years, to NEVER assume ANYTHING..)
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To: JimVT
use mozilla ... best browser around ... no popups ... http://www.mozilla.org/

snooker
36 posted on 03/08/2003 9:47:02 AM PST by snooker
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To: JimVT
And it is at least as relevant as some of YOUR recent posts about "Topless Car Wash" or "Troubled by being short?"

Darn, I missed the Topless Car Wash article. Please point me to it?

37 posted on 03/08/2003 9:48:06 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have learned, over the years, to NEVER assume ANYTHING..)
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To: JimVT
I thought it was a Free Republic issue of general interest since more than likely other Freepers have encountered the same situation.

Yes, many FReepers encounter this situation. In fact, every internet surfer encounters the exact same situation. You are among the few who see it as a 'problem'.

Among your solutions:


38 posted on 03/08/2003 10:14:42 AM PST by fnord ( Hyprocisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue)
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To: Lazamataz
FR Search for Topless Car Wash, specify Exact Phrase, and click on the thread at the top of the list of three.
39 posted on 03/08/2003 10:20:01 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace
Oh thank goodness.

I thought I was going to miss the pictures.

40 posted on 03/08/2003 10:26:45 AM PST by Lazamataz (I have learned, over the years, to NEVER assume ANYTHING..)
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To: Dog Gone
He does have a problem that would not exist if Microsoft had put a "Do not ask me again" check box on the popup form. I have to use IE at work, and this annoys me as well. You should only have to say NO once.

Mozilla is how I solve this problem at home.

41 posted on 03/08/2003 10:32:45 AM PST by e_engineer
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To: Lazamataz; JimVT
There's also a pretty funny exchange on the Troubled by being short? thread, between peteram and me, starting at #5.

I don't understand why JimVT thinks that's irrelevant. There are plenty of short people and drinkers on FR, aren't there? ;-)

I think Jim misunderstands the difference between posting a thread and posting a reply on a thread. But he can sure correct me if I'm wrong about that.

42 posted on 03/08/2003 10:38:33 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: JimVT
< Has anyone found a solution to the insidious ads that keep popping up on some web sites practically demanding that one install "Macromedia", or "Shockwave" or Flash Player"? >

I found freerepublic.com because I was doing a web search on 'stop macromedia'. I was amazed at the apathy of most of the replies to this thread. 'Just install it, quit whining, you'll miss out on all the cool advertisments flying all over the screen!'

You see, I too absolutely hate being constantly harassed about it. Those that say to just quit going to those sites are the most dim whitted of all. Which hyperlinks say what is going to try to autoinstall a program on your machine? And the guy that said to disable the install on demand in IE settings, do you test out your answers before you show your ignorance? That doesn't work, dude...And the other reply that said to uninstall flash in the 'add remove programs', how is that going to keep it from harassing you 2 or 3 times per page?

JimVT, you are a good man for putting up with all this abuse! And to show my appreciation, I'm going to cut loose with my 'not so great but answers your question at least' personal workaround for this asinine program called flash. Find out where your host file lives on your system, (it's different on different OSs), and add the line:

127.0.0.1 download.macromedia.com

Save the host file, then restart IE. Pages will take longer to load if they call for flash, but you won't get harassed about installing a piece of crap software so you can watch flying commercials, or even someones idiotic Inaugeral Ball presentation...And you don't have to get hit with a pie in the face, or even someone's thoughtless reply.

And yes the freeware popup stopper from panicware.com is worth it's bytes in gold!

Hold the flamejobs for a sec, I gotta get my fireproof shorts on...OK, go to it! Flame on!

Dan
43 posted on 05/30/2003 7:14:21 PM PDT by danim
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To: danim
Well thanks...I'll try panicware.

Where the heck you been for a year?

44 posted on 05/31/2003 4:04:30 AM PDT by JimVT
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