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Group Takes Houston Sodomy Case To Supreme Court
New2Houston ^ | 7/16/2002 | click2houston.com

Posted on 07/16/2002 2:04:12 PM PDT by janbrownhou

Attorney General Candidates Keep Mum On Issue Posted: 2:32 p.m. CDT July 16, 2002 Updated: 2:44 p.m. CDT July 16, 2002

HOUSTON -- In an effort to get the U.S. Supreme Court to decide the constitutionality of Texas' antisodomy law, a homosexual rights group Tuesday took the case of two men arrested under the statute to Washington. Lambda Legal, which represents the two Houston-area men arrested in 1998 for having sex in an apartment, formally asked the high court to reverse Texas courts' upholding of their misdemeanor conviction.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; scotuslist

1 posted on 07/16/2002 2:04:12 PM PDT by janbrownhou
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To: janbrownhou
Wonder if lawyers consider this a 'Pain in the butt' case
2 posted on 07/16/2002 2:07:26 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: janbrownhou
How old is this statute? I thought I had heard that Texas had the 3rd largest homosexual population in the US. If this is the case, what prosecutor would go forward with a case like this and how was evidence obtained? If the two guys were found doing this in a public place, there should be other charges that could be pursued.
4 posted on 07/16/2002 2:11:38 PM PDT by maximus@Nashville
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To: janbrownhou
As much as I dislike the idea of the government barging into a bedroom, there might be a bit more to this one...
5 posted on 07/16/2002 2:16:59 PM PDT by Saturnalia
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To: janbrownhou
The are hoping to get the charge reduced from sodomy to following too closely.
6 posted on 07/16/2002 2:26:12 PM PDT by Octar
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To: maximus@Nashville
"Texas had the 3rd largest homosexual population in the US"

Gotta be carefull making comparisons like this. Would not be out of line as Texas has the second largest population. Not exactly fair to compare Texas and Rhode Island or Idaho.

7 posted on 07/16/2002 2:42:34 PM PDT by NTegraT
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To: Octar
following too closely.
Tailgating?
8 posted on 07/16/2002 2:45:31 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: SouthernFreebird
I suppose the lawyers are performing pro boner!
9 posted on 07/16/2002 2:50:29 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: NTegraT
Quite right, but I expected California (#1) and New York (#2) from not only the large population but the number of people who would move there to partake of that lifestyle. I would think that a Gay Texan would move to a state that was more accepting of that lifestyle, thus lessening the Gay population there.
10 posted on 07/16/2002 2:56:39 PM PDT by maximus@Nashville
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To: Young Werther
I suppose the lawyers are performing pro boner!

Lol............a real Bummer if they're not.

11 posted on 07/16/2002 3:02:15 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; *SCOTUS_List
Index Bump
12 posted on 07/16/2002 3:06:06 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: janbrownhou
I hope justice is served promptly, but even if it is not, I'm sure they'll get it in the end.
13 posted on 07/16/2002 3:15:14 PM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: janbrownhou
Let's see. . . if the law is upheld. . . they go to PRISON. . . full of men ?? Hmm. . . you'd think they'd be chomping at the bit, so to speak. . . (g)
14 posted on 07/16/2002 3:52:33 PM PDT by Salgak
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To: janbrownhou
arrested in 1998 for having sex in an apartment...

Not exactly. It was not sex in an apartment that was the problem. Don't just sit there on your apartment, help with the dishes, Bruce.

15 posted on 07/16/2002 4:09:17 PM PDT by Blue Screen of Death
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To: janbrownhou
Here's a longer version of the article (attributed to AP) that I noticed on KHOU Channel 11's website. Since this thread already exists, I'll post it here:

Group takes Houston sodomy case to Supreme Court 07/16/2002

Associated Press

HOUSTON - In an effort to get the U.S. Supreme Court to decide the constitutionality of Texas' anti-sodomy law, a homosexual rights group Tuesday took the case of two men arrested under the statute to Washington.

Lambda Legal, which represents the two Houston-area men arrested in 1998 for having sex in an apartment, formally asked the high court to reverse Texas courts' upholding of their misdemeanor conviction.

"This law harms all people who believe that their homes should be protected from governmental intrusion," said Lee Taft, director of Lambda Legal's regional office. "In particular, it brands lesbian and gay Texans as second-class citizens and is used to justify all kinds of discrimination."

Only Texas, Missouri, Kansas and Oklahoma expressly prohibit homosexual acts, though the crime is equivalent in severity to a traffic ticket.

Harris County District Attorney Chuck Rosenthal said Tuesday he wants the state attorney general's office to defend the statute before the Supreme Court.

"I think the law is constitutional on its face," Rosenthal said. "The better place to resolve the issue would be in the Legislature that convenes in January."

The offices of Attorney General John Cornyn, a Republican seeking a U.S. Senate seat, and the candidates from the two major parties vying for his current job did not immediately comment on the issue.

The case began when sheriff's deputies, responding to a false report of an armed intruder, went into John Lawrence's apartment unit Sept. 17, 1998, and discovered him having sex with Tyron Garner. Both spent the night in the Harris County Jail and were released the next day.

Lawrence and Garner pleaded no contest and were fined $200 each. The sodomy law was a felony until 1974, when it was reduced to a misdemeanor that today carries a maximum $500 fine.

They won a brief victory when a state appeals court panel overturned the convictions and ruled the law unconstitutional. However, the full court reversed the ruling and affirmed the convictions and the law.

The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals, the state's highest criminal court, refused to hear the case, making the Supreme Court the next and final possible step.

The U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of state sodomy laws in 1986 in Bowers vs. Hardwick, a case Taft said his organization wants the current justices to reconsider.

"It is an opportunity for the U.S. Supreme Court to review the atrocity of its ruling in Hardwick, and it is an opportunity for that court to think through issues of privacy and equal protection," Taft said.


16 posted on 07/17/2002 1:20:56 AM PDT by weegee
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To: maximus@Nashville; Saturnalia
Being in Houston, I remember when this case was first reported a couple of years back. The whole thing has seemed to be a "constitutional" setup case.

The officers were called to the scene by a neighbor who cited an assault going on next door. Police find the door to the residence unlocked and happen to come in on 2 men performing a sexual act. The officers on the scene are aware enough to charge the men with the commission of this sexual act in their residence (generally it is applied to sex acts performed in public areas such as parks and restrooms).

The homosexual activists have not made any public attempts to get the law changed through the legislature although they have tried to codify unmarried same sex partner health benefits.

I've never understood how the public schools could teach about homosexuality, cities could fund benefits for homosexual staffers' lovers, etc. while the very acts are illegal. Seems to me that they are fostering a society of scoflaws.

17 posted on 07/17/2002 1:27:48 AM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
Try the dilemma a realtor friend of mine had: in the city of Alexandria, Virginia, discrimination by sexual orientation is a criminal offense. Sodomy is still a felony in Virginia. So, in a training class, she asked the question: if a gay couple wants to buy a house, in which they are presumably going to have sex, does that not make her culpable for aiding and abetting a felony ?

The silence lasted MINUTES, I'm told. . .

18 posted on 07/17/2002 7:49:01 AM PDT by Salgak
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