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Sex, torture and erotic electrification in America's 'gay' churches
WorldNetDaily ^ | July 18, 2002 | Stephen Bennett

Posted on 07/18/2002 12:13:47 AM PDT by scripter

Editor's note: This commentary contains language and descriptions of sexual activities which will be offensive and disturbing to some readers. Allyson Smith contributed to this article.

By Stephen Bennett
© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

No doubt this is a sin-sick world we live in, yet it still amazes me how wicked and debased America continues to become. You better brace yourselves for this one folks.

In my recent WND commentary, "Was Jesus 'gay?'," I addressed the "gay friendly" theology of the Metropolitan Community Church – one of the largest growing networks of homosexual churches worldwide catering to the "gay, lesbian and transgendered communities." In 2003, the MCC's website claims it will have over 70,000 members spanning 17 countries.

The commentary exposed the twisted teachings of the MCC and its homosexual founder, the Reverend Troy R. Perry, an ex-Baptist minister who began the "gay church" in 1968. Many homosexual men and women who have left the church claimed MCC churches around the country were nothing more than "gay pick up joints" and "all the gay sex you want" ... all in the name of Christ.

While researching information on the MCC for my commentary, I found things I never intended to find. What I discovered is absolutely shocking and horrifying – and I caution you with what you are about to read. It is very disturbing.

The Metropolitan Community Church of San Diego welcomes you on their website with "Bringing people closer to God and to one another." It further goes on to say, "May you find the church informative and helpful and even a step that will lead you to a more personal relationship with Jesus Christ ... please come and take advantage of our fellowship opportunities."

"Bringing people together" and "fellowship opportunities" are gross understatements.

On Nov. 1, 1999, at 7:30 p.m., a sadomasochist workshop sponsored by GLO (Leathermen Only) was held at the church hall – "Fisting For Beginners" hosted by [deleted]. Several different sado-masochist groups use the church facilities monthly for their instructive workshops. According to their e-mail, they said:

It will be a wild demonstration-lecture and no actual fisting will be done on the premises, but a videotape will supply the missing visuals. Join us at the MCC Church Hall at 4333 30th Street, across the way from the Aztec Bowling Alley.

Fisting, for those of you who are not into sado-masochist perversion, is a dangerous, painful act practiced by many gays, lesbians and heterosexuals of inserting one's complete fist and part of the arm into the sex partner's vagina or anus. For many homosexuals, this is a pleasurable, erotic act. This is just the beginning.

On May 24, 2000, another sado-masochist group, Club X, held a workshop entitled "SM 101" at the church hall, presented by [deleted]. According to their advertisement:

Travis has been presenting this excellent introduction to SM (Sado-Masochism) for several years now. It has proven very effective and well received at all of the "Human Sexuality" college classes he has presented it to as well as to all the police department orientations and sensitivity training sessions he has taught it at.

On Monday, June 5, 2000, the MCC of San Diego allowed GLO to provide what appeared to be another evening "fellowship opportunity" in the church hall for the sex-crazed men and women. The monthly e-mail advertisement read:

Bring your Leather, or toys, cleaned & ready to sell, trade, swap, or give to that someone special. This will be happening inside the meeting hall, the MCC has asked us NOT TO speak too loudly, or display or show off things out in the patio area, or anywhere in public view. ANYONE breaking the rules will be asked to leave, period. Please remember that there are other events that happen at MCC while we are there, & that this is a church.

Did you get the last comment – "that this is a church?" Yeah, right.

July 2000's meeting at the MCC of San Diego reminisced about the "good old days." The advertisement read:

These discussions are designed to restart the traditional cycle that used to exist in the Good Old Days, when Daddies with great experience would teach sexual/sensual/relationship tips to others, as they themselves were taught. We lost nearly a whole generation of gay men that should be here now as role-models, and the surviving older men were scattered in disarray. The preceding "Ask Daddy Anything" discussion was a smashing success, because it succeeded in bringing many good, wise folks back to public admiration and visibility. That same philosophy will continue in all upcoming discussions.

Each event will build upon the previous ones, and will include plenty of opportunities for feedback and discussion from wise and experienced Tops and Bottoms. If you have always desired to have sensual, powerful and meaningful relationships with others (from a Top or Bottom viewpoint), you should not miss any part of this series.

Monday, July 3, 2000, in the church hall was a workshop on "watersports." Watersports, for those of you who don't know, is the perverted act some homosexuals practice by urinating on one another, among other things, and getting their thrills.

In September, it seems the "gay" church got a double dose of "fun": a "bondage" workshop and "piercing" for pleasure workshop was advertised.

'Tis the season to be jolly ... On Wednesday night, Dec. 27, 2000, right after many celebrated the birth of Jesus Christ, the MCC of San Diego allowed yet another workshop, keeping in spirit with all the tinsel and "lights" of the season, appropriately titled "Erotic Electricity." Presented by a man called "Volta," the e-mail advertisement read:

"Volta is a highly skilled practitioner of this form of play and he will be covering all the bases in his presentation. Safety, necessary hardware, basic techniques, and some of the more advanced techniques will also be covered. In addition, Volta is planning on setting up a "hot seat" for those in the audience daring enough to try it out on themselves! This promises to be highly informative and entertaining so come on down Wednesday night to our workshop."

On Wednesday, April 24, 2002, a friend of mine actually attended this workshop at the MCC of San Diego. This person is still recovering from the trauma of the scenes they witnessed. The advertisement read:

This month, Jeff, our fearless leader will be presenting a workshop entitled: 'Single tail whip and sensuous whip play.' Jeff is a well known accomplished artist with the single tail and is lining up some willing assistants for the workshop. Come and learn techniques or just melt away to the sound of the whip, grins ... Various techniques for throwing and playing with whips and how best to position your play partner.

At the event in the MCC church's Fulton Hall, "Jeff" spent the first hour discussing the differences between single tail and other types of whips, including Indiana Jones-style bullwhips and how to identify a whip's maker by its workmanship. He passed several whips around for the audience to examine and discussed how to clean the tip in case skin was broken.

During the second hour, many people were "consensually" and brutally whipped, including one woman who actually stripped to her bra and was whipped from front and behind. After finishing whipping each willing subject, Jeff proudly examined and displayed his handiwork: the welts.

If the MCC Church of San Diego is not hard-core enough for you, how about the Metropolitan Community Church in the Valley of North Hollywood?

On April 24, 2002, a workshop at the church was advertised entitled "Branding by Cauterization." Cauterization is the burning and searing of the flesh with a hot iron. The burns are so severe, the wounds don't even have time to bleed.

May 22nd featured "Master & Slavery as a Lifestyle" and on June 26th "Hot Wax" – sexual gratification from dripping burning candle wax onto your partner.

The group that uses the MCC in the Valley of North Hollywood, Avatar-L.A. is currently advertising their upcoming events (please forgive me for the language – this is their copy, not mine):

Aug. 3, 2002 – Clips, Clamps & Clothespins / Tit, Cock & Ball Torture (According to their promo – 'Besides hanging up clothes to dry, this demo will show how clothespins, various clips and clamps can be used safely to enduce the most exquisite pain and suffering.')

Sept. 7, 2002 – Erotic Shaving / Spanking

Oct. 5, 2002 – Fisting 101 (seems to be a popular workshop)

Nov. 2, 2002 – Erotic Electricity 101

Nov. 15, 2002 – Erotic Electricity 201 (Erotic Electricity 101 is a prerequisite to this class)

Friends, these sick and perverted "workshops" are not only going on in the Metropolitan Community Churches in California, but others around the country as well. Much of this chilling information is readily available right on the Internet.

Perversion and wickedness are abounding in America and my friends, it is high time we repented of our indifference and complacency. From Hollywood, the media, the government, the public schools … right into our churches, we are now seeing the rotten fruit and stench of the sin of homosexuality in our land. The "gay" agenda has been so successful thus far for one reason: we've let it.

Never forget, we need to always love the sinner, yet we can hate the sin.

America: It's high time we've said, "Enough is enough."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: church; fisting; gay; gaychurch; homosexual; homosexualagenda; lesbian; mcc; queer; sadomasochism; sex; sm; sodomite; stephenbennett
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1 posted on 07/18/2002 12:13:47 AM PDT by scripter
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; Khepera; ppaul; buffyt; L.N. Smithee; Clint N. Suhks; Buffalo Bob; ...
Ping
2 posted on 07/18/2002 12:18:20 AM PDT by scripter
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To: scripter; PoisedWoman; roachie; Khepera; *Homosexual Agenda; FormerLib; erizona
Yep, it's a bogus church.
3 posted on 07/18/2002 12:19:16 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: everyone
22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. 24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen. 26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. 28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. Romans 1:22-28 (NIV)
4 posted on 07/18/2002 12:35:55 AM PDT by Ipberg
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To: scripter
I'm beginning to understand why they used to burn heretics...

...not that there's anything wrong with that!

5 posted on 07/18/2002 12:49:00 AM PDT by FormerLib
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Those zany Corinthians Paul wrote to could likely give these modern "Christians" a close race for perversity.
6 posted on 07/18/2002 12:59:36 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: grlfrnd
OMG what sickos.
7 posted on 07/18/2002 2:13:16 AM PDT by PoisedWoman
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To: scripter
Sick. Very, very sick.
8 posted on 07/18/2002 5:43:38 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: mille99; Emmylou
Comments?
9 posted on 07/18/2002 5:47:30 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: scripter
Was Jesus 'gay'?
10 posted on 07/18/2002 5:51:52 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: scripter
Travis has been presenting this excellent introduction to SM (Sado-Masochism) for several years now. It has proven very effective and well received at all of the "Human Sexuality" college classes he has presented it to as well as to all the police department orientations and sensitivity training sessions he has taught it at.

Your tax dollars at work!


11 posted on 07/18/2002 7:26:26 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: scripter
Notice the total absence of a certain word throughout this thread?
If you use the word that rhymes with "flag" your post will get pulled by unnamed politically correct censors.
12 posted on 07/18/2002 7:41:10 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: GrandMoM; Yakboy; SiKKuS; libertylass; conserve-it; Travis McGee; Salvation; CalConservative; ...
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13 posted on 07/18/2002 8:42:24 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: EdReform; hollywood
I am still expecting incoming meteors.
14 posted on 07/18/2002 8:51:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: scripter
On Nov. 1, 1999, at 7:30 p.m., a sadomasochist workshop sponsored by GLO (Leathermen Only) was held at the church hall – "Fisting For Beginners" hosted by [deleted].

Jesus preached (and led) a life of personal holiness and Godliness. He was chaste and warned about even thinking lustful thoughts. He knew the freedom that such granted. These people have lost something great and good and they don't even know it. There must be great sadness in heaven when God looks down on this.

15 posted on 07/18/2002 9:03:20 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: Travis McGee
All in Good time...
16 posted on 07/18/2002 9:48:21 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: scripter
I wonder how they justify this behavior by Scripture? I suspect that gay churches are not really worshipping God.
17 posted on 07/18/2002 9:59:53 AM PDT by The Scorpion King
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To: scripter
"Sex, torture and erotic electrification in America's 'gay' churches
18 posted on 07/18/2002 10:30:00 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Go Dub Go
Your a pretty funny lil guy aren't you. Things are a little slow at the DU.
20 posted on 07/18/2002 10:57:41 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: Go Dub Go
With the exception of fisting, everything else described in the article is done by heterosexuals as well.

Nice try. Did you read it? The things done in the article are done by SICK TWISTED PERVERTS and DEVIANTS, and it does not matter if they are "gay or straight".

21 posted on 07/18/2002 11:54:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: scripter
This is Satan-in your face and mocking a place of worship> Incredible. These sick souls are filling this church with sexually perverted people and defiling that which so many hold dearly-a supposed place of worship.

There is no way this qualifies as a church. I am interested in their IRS standing.

22 posted on 07/18/2002 12:21:27 PM PDT by Republic
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To: D-fendr
Correct. But have you read this?

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were(that means they quit practicing these things) some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. I Corinthians 6:9-11

Homosexuals and sodomites will NOT go to heaven. Yes, I'm also doing my part to not do any of the other things in that list also.

23 posted on 07/18/2002 12:32:56 PM PDT by Bryan24
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To: Go Dub Go
With the exception of fisting, everything else described in the article is done by heterosexuals as well.
Most Christians probably object to branding your partner with a hot iron whether that partner is a male or female, inside a church or outside it. That it is being taught in a supposedly christian church only makes the evil a little more satanic.
Hopefully, the writers problem is with the classes being held in a church, not the content of the classes.
You approve of fisting, whipping, branding, and otherwise brutalizing a lover? Personally, I do have a problem with the content of the classes, they are immoral.

patent  +AMDG

24 posted on 07/18/2002 12:33:46 PM PDT by patent
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To: FormerLib
I'm beginning to understand why they used to burn heretics...

No, no...that "workshop's" not until next month...

25 posted on 07/18/2002 12:47:24 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: patent
You approve of fisting, whipping, branding, and otherwise brutalizing a lover? Personally, I do have a problem with the content of the classes, they are immoral.

I can't find where the Bible condemns such things, so long as they're practiced consensually within the context of marriage.

27 posted on 07/18/2002 12:58:03 PM PDT by Lamont Cranston
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To: Travis McGee
"Travis has been presenting this excellent introduction to SM (Sado-Masochism) for several years now."

Shame on you, dude!

28 posted on 07/18/2002 1:03:24 PM PDT by hollywood
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thou SHALT NOT FIST
29 posted on 07/18/2002 1:04:15 PM PDT by RolandBurnam
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To: Go Dub Go
As far as my approval of other people's sex lives, I'm not really interested in the subject. I don't really care what other people do in their sex lives, whether they're fisting, whipping, branding or licking whipped cream off each other.
I’m not interested in what they are doing either, but I will call the things described in the article immoral because they are. That is I’m not interested unless you consider reading this article and posting a comment to be interest, in which case it appears that you are interested as well.
I had never heard of any branding as having anything to do with sex before.
Did you read the article? Do some research on S&M Branding. It is out there.
I know many professional athletes, some of whom profess publicly to be Christian, have brands.
First, do you mean branded with a hot brand like a steer, with a tattoo, or by endorsing Nike? Second, I stopped taking theology lessons from athletes a while back, about the same time I stopped taking political lessons from actors, and morality lessons from politicians. I don’t care what some athletes do, their actions don’t make it moral or immoral.

patent  +AMDG

30 posted on 07/18/2002 1:11:54 PM PDT by patent
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To: Lamont Cranston
You approve of fisting, whipping, branding, and otherwise brutalizing a lover? Personally, I do have a problem with the content of the classes, they are immoral.
I can't find where the Bible condemns such things, so long as they're practiced consensually within the context of marriage.
So in your view, so long as there isn’t a specific Bible verse that says no branding your wife and its consensual, its OK?

I guess I take a bit different view of morality, and don’t require God to provide a laundry list saying no branding your wife, in order to recognize that such a practice violates her human dignity.

I also require a bit more than mere consensus to believe the act is moral. Two people can agree that the first should kill the second, but it still is murder, and still (in this case) violates explicit commands in the Bible (since you seem to be bringing that book into the discussion).

patent  +AMDG

31 posted on 07/18/2002 1:12:33 PM PDT by patent
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To: Lamont Cranston
First Corinthians 6:

9Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

13 Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14And God both raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power. 15Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a harlot? Certainly not! 16Or do you not know that he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her? For "the two," He says, "shall become one flesh." 17But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him. 18Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body

If you don't see the obvious inconsistency of those words with the degrading practices mentioned above, I think you need to have your eyes examined.

33 posted on 07/18/2002 1:15:50 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Bryan24
Fornicating and getting drunk are going to cut out a lot of people from heaven, that's for sure.
34 posted on 07/18/2002 1:19:16 PM PDT by BikerNYC
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To: Campion
That passage has nothing to do with things that are practiced consensually withing the context of heterosexual marriage, as the passage itself clearly indicates.
35 posted on 07/18/2002 1:26:58 PM PDT by Lamont Cranston
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To: The Scorpion King
I wonder how they justify this behavior by Scripture? I suspect that gay churches are not really worshipping God.

You KNOW they are not worshipping the TRUE God who is revealed in His Word, The Bible. ". . . by their fruits ye shall know them" (the true followers of Jesus).

36 posted on 07/18/2002 1:36:41 PM PDT by caprock
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To: EdReform
JUST DONT SHAKE HANDS if you meet any of these people... especially if you have any open cuts or anythign..
37 posted on 07/18/2002 1:47:45 PM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Lamont Cranston
That passage has nothing to do with things that are practiced consensually withing the context of heterosexual marriage, as the passage itself clearly indicates.

Nonsense. Can you imagine "fisting" a temple of the Holy Spirit? Branding one with an iron? Various other degrading, sick activities? Well: that's what a Christian spouse is, a temple of the Holy Spirit. Christ's property, bought and paid for.

Lust is a sin that can be committed within marriage as well as without.

38 posted on 07/18/2002 1:51:48 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion
Lust is a sin that can be committed within marriage as well as without.

Where does the Bible teach that?

39 posted on 07/18/2002 1:59:28 PM PDT by Lamont Cranston
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To: hollywood
If I had a whip that could reach Tempe, you would be hearing a sonic boom right now.
40 posted on 07/18/2002 2:09:41 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Tease.
41 posted on 07/18/2002 2:42:21 PM PDT by hollywood
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To: Bryan24
I wasn't condoning it, I was just making a point that there were some pretty bizarre church ceremonies a long while ago too.

And yeah, that's a tough list - and there's others in other places. In this one, "covetous" is endemic also, and a tough one to root out, as is "pride."

Thanks for your reply.

42 posted on 07/18/2002 3:38:14 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr
Sorry if I came off a little strong. No flame intended. If Hell has hot spots, I feel sure these deviants will be front and center there.
43 posted on 07/18/2002 5:17:04 PM PDT by Bryan24
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To: mille99; Emmylou
Well?
44 posted on 07/18/2002 8:26:25 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: Fethiye
For your perusal. Here is an account of a secure, friendly little pro-gay outpost where the ministers pretend homosexual behavior is healthy, where "stable" homosexual pairings are encouraged. What effect does this tolerant and compassionate acceptance of sexual perversion have on its practitioners' lifestyles?

Read and find out.

You'll ignore the obvious, but I encourage you to read it anyway.

45 posted on 07/18/2002 8:32:16 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: EdReform
Emmylou won't comment. Neither will Fethiye.

It puts the lie to their silly pro-gay sentiments. Their sensitive psyches can't handle that.

46 posted on 07/18/2002 8:33:56 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
Exactly
47 posted on 07/18/2002 8:51:49 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon; patent
Fr. Malachi Martin is a highly recommended author for any who may think that this thread is a just an aberation.
After the revelations of the homosexual predations of the Catholic clergy, be assured that Satan is alive and well, doing his damndist.
48 posted on 07/18/2002 9:21:34 PM PDT by rightofrush
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To: mille99; *Homosexual Agenda
""Well" what?"

See reply #9. (Your comments on the article?)

50 posted on 07/21/2002 1:15:50 PM PDT by EdReform
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