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Gephardt Says Democrat Party Could Pick Up 40 House Seats
Roll Call Magazine Web Site ^ | July 18, 2002 (33rd Anniversary of Ted Kennedy's Midnight Swim) | Ethan Wallison

Posted on 07/18/2002 11:39:09 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt (D-Mo.) has told senior Democrats that the party could pick up as many as 40 House seats if the continuously unfolding corporate scandals can be kept on the political radar screen until November, according to sources.

The figure far surpasses any that has been suggested previously - even privately - by Gephardt or any other top Democratic campaign official, all of whom have consistently indicated that the House will be won or lost by a slim margin.

"He said if this thing plays out right, we could pick up 30 to 40 seats," said one Democratic source who attended a recent meeting where Gephardt threw out the figures.

Gephardt's remarks, which were confirmed by a second source at the meeting, came on the heels of twin political developments that dovetailed with the unfolding scandals on Wall Street: revelations that the Securities and Exchange Commission was investigating accounting practices at Halliburton Co. when Vice President Cheney was at its helm; and re-emerging speculation about President Bush's stock trades as a board member at Harken Energy Co. more than a decade ago.

Neither new development - let alone the continuing revelations of questionable business activities in some of the country's top board rooms - has so far appeared to shift the political landscape on Capitol Hill.

But Gephardt's private remarks to colleagues would seem to underscore the political stakes Democrats see in an issue that is only beginning to set in among voters.

"As this unfolds day after day, I think there's a good chance the Republicans will be turned out [of power] and the Democrats will be given a chance to get at this cowboy mentality [in Corporate America]," said Rep. Max Sandlin (D-Texas), a chief deputy whip.

Asked whether he believes Democrats could do as well as Gephardt has suggested privately, Sandlin said, "I think there's certainly the possibility of [40 seats] as Corporate America unravels before our very eyes."

A similar outlook has taken hold across the Caucus. One top Democratic strategist, referring to only the latest accounting scandal on Wall Street, even went so far as to say, "I tell you [that if] you drop another WorldCom thing in September, the Republicans are really [screwed]."

Gephardt has certainly appeared confident that the issue of corporate ethics will ultimately play out to the Democrats' benefit.

Meeting with the top leadership Tuesday afternoon, Gephardt opened by advising Members to read a Paul Krugman column in that day's New York Times that accused President Bush of shady land dealings and cronyism in Texas. He also touted a similarly themed story in the New Yorker magazine.

"[Gephardt] said he thinks this is where the whole thing is headed," said one source who was in the room.

Republicans have suspected from the outset that Gephardt and the House Democrats would try to capitalize on the corporate scandals for political advantage - what White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer has called the "secret plan" to keep the issue alive through the elections.

Steve Schmidt, a spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee, accused Gephardt of saying that he wants to restore confidence to the markets, while at the same time sowing anxiety among investors and "cheerleading for the market to decline" in order to gain politically.

"He's trying to talk down the market," Schmidt said. "If he's saying [the Democrats could make major gains], he is basically saying, 'I want to exploit this politically. I don't want to solve this.' "

Rejecting those criticisms, Gephardt has repeatedly pointed to his calls for quick House action on a package of reforms, put forward by Senate Banking Committee Chairman Paul Sarbanes (D-Md.), which passed that chamber 97-0.

In fact, Gephardt has accused Republican leaders of foot-dragging on reform, presumably in the interest of placating GOP benefactors in corporate America. Speaking to reporters on Wednesday, Gephardt cited reports that suggested strong resistance to the Sarbanes measure among key Republicans, particularly House Financial Services Chairman Mike Oxley (R-Ohio).

"It's always the same with them," Gephardt said. "It's like [they're] trying to get something done, but really [the plan is to] slow it down and water it down. That's their goal, that's their game plan, that's their strategy."

Gephardt spokesman Erik Smith said he had never heard Gephardt privately suggest the party could ride the corporate scandals to a landslide this November. He also suggested that 40 seats would be an unlikely prediction, since Gephardt has said only 40 districts are in play this year.

"I don't think he believes we could win all 40," Smith said.

But Smith added that Gephardt does believe that the political climate is now "better that at any other point this cycle," in large part because of revelations of wrongdoing in corporate board rooms.

"He said we're in an environment where winning the House is becoming more and more of a reality," Smith said. "He's bullish."

The upcoming one-year anniversary of Sept. 11 and the ongoing debate over the creation of a Department of Homeland Security have presented significant political hurdles, however.

Even before the corporate scandals began to unfold in earnest, Gephardt was privately expressing concern that GOP leaders would try to stretch out debate over the new department in order to draw attention away from issues the Democrats would want to raise in the home stretch before the elections.

Indeed, Republican leaders initially suggested that planning for the new department would take until the end of the year. Gephardt responded by putting forward an ambitious timetable yoked to the anniversary of the terrorist attacks, in hopes that the issue would be off the table before the campaign enters its most intense phase in the fall.

The Sept. 11 time frame has essentially been adopted. But no one yet knows what will transpire once the basic blueprint for the department, put together by a special committee of top House lawmakers, comes up against conflicting plans from powerful committee chairmen and ranking members, who have their own ideas about what should comprise the new department.

Already, Gephardt has faced strong resistance to quick action from institutionalists in the Caucus, such as Appropriations Committee ranking member David Obey (D-Wis.), who are devotees of Congressional prerogative. In the Senate, Appropriations Committee Chairman Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) has threatened to filibuster the legislation.


TOPICS: Announcements; News/Current Events; Political Humor/Cartoons; Politics/Elections; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: 2002; delirium; democrats; elections; gephardt; hastert; hilarity; house; idiocy; lunacy; republicans; speakergephardt; wishfulthinking
No poll other than Zogby's special sauce poll shows the President being affected here. Admittedly, House Republicans are, in the public's eyes, in trouble on this issue. But they've got the recently overwhelmingly passed "Reform" laws to point to to the folks back home.

Gephardt's remarks are more likely the wishful dreaming of a man who is seeing his career ending as a minority leader of a losing party. Let's hope so. :)

1 posted on 07/18/2002 11:39:09 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat
The only chairs they'll be picking up are their own when they are voted out of office. The entire corporate scandal is Clinton's Legacy. Look at who profited - high profile Democrats - while the working man got stiffed. I hope the do pursue this ---->>>> The Greed of the 90's.
2 posted on 07/18/2002 11:44:13 AM PDT by Barry Goldwater
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To: Recovering_Democrat
The only 40 seats the dems will pick up are the ones left behind when they go on recess because the floor needs cleaning.
3 posted on 07/18/2002 11:44:32 AM PDT by elephantlips
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To: Recovering_Democrat
In his dreams. They have NO issues, (after the Republicans rolled over for them).
Once the war gets cranked up in October, everyone will want to vote the party of George W.
Be there or be square.
4 posted on 07/18/2002 11:45:05 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Dick must have forgotten to take his Thorazine this morning.
5 posted on 07/18/2002 11:45:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Can imagine Gephardt and Daschle praying every morning praying that the stock market tanks just so they can score some cheap points. And they accuse Repubs of exploiting the War on Terror.
6 posted on 07/18/2002 11:47:33 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Recovering_Democrat
The check's in the mail, the dog ate my homework, I won't.....never mind. Yada yada yada. Ol' Dickey boy is thinking again. That was his first mistake.

All he has done is set himself up to say in December....."We could have"..."I'm still a minority, damn it."

7 posted on 07/18/2002 11:47:35 AM PDT by Pistolshot
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To: Recovering_Democrat
As much as i hate to admit it, don't underestimate Zogby's ability to track what's going on. He was the closest to being correct on the presidential race in 2000....
8 posted on 07/18/2002 11:49:26 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: Psalm 73
"...winning the House" has become more important than taking care of the business of the people. It is politics of destruction - business as usual - for the politically bankrupt Democraps. Is wish 'dickie" and his crowd a fond farewell come November.
9 posted on 07/18/2002 11:49:56 AM PDT by caisson71
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To: Recovering_Democrat
When asked how, Gephardt said the Easter Bunny was going to bring them to him.
10 posted on 07/18/2002 11:50:24 AM PDT by CaptRon
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Already posted here.
11 posted on 07/18/2002 11:50:29 AM PDT by Coop
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Gephard has been promising the House for a while now. If he can't get it this time around they will "deal" with him and get a new Minority Leader. He isn't a very popular man with the Democrats, not to mention everyone else.
12 posted on 07/18/2002 11:51:27 AM PDT by ChicagoRepublican
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To: Recovering_Democrat
...has told senior party Democratic party leaders the party could pick up as many as 40 House seats if the continuously unfolding corporate scandals can be kept on the political radar screen until November, according to sources.

Correct copy after adjusting for spelling errors...

"If you keep me as the "big head", I will see to it our toadies in the media will keep up the propaganda that pubbies are to blame for the corporate scandals while at the same time spiking any stories about democrap culpability and we may be able to steal 40 more elections!">

THE MEDIA IS THE REAL ENEMY!

13 posted on 07/18/2002 11:55:33 AM PDT by Bob J
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To: irish guard
I don't trust ANY one poll — not when they are up for a person or issue I favor, and not when they are down for the same person or issue. Polls are NOT scientific. To fool people into thinking they are, pollsters merely cloak themselves in the legitimate mathematical discipline of statistical analysis. However, it is extraordiniarly easy to skew poll results with:

->question wording,

->question order,

->day of the week and time of day a respondent is questioned,

->who the respondents are (adults, registered voters, likely voters, etc.),

->the number of questions asked,

->sample size,

->weighting required to "ensure" randomness due to high number of refusals to participate,

->weighting required to "ensure" "fair" representation of different political points of view.

At best, a group of polls taken over a period of time and averaged, might give an approximation of genuine public attitudes on the subject polled.

14 posted on 07/18/2002 12:11:34 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: Callahan
Can imagine Gephardt and Daschle praying every morning praying that the stock market tanks just so they can score some cheap points. And they accuse Repubs of exploiting the War on Terror.

These jerks are without a doubt, the most anti-American group of representatives in history.

15 posted on 07/18/2002 12:15:02 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: Wolfstar
>>>>>>.At best, a group of polls taken over a period of time and averaged, might give an approximation of genuine public attitudes on the subject polled<<<<<<<

If that werew true, then Bush would have won in 2000 by about 5% and would have taken a number of states that went for Gore. I agree about the wording question order and all that, but Zogby is good. The sad truth is Zogby was right in 2000, Bush coasted on his lead and almost lost.

16 posted on 07/18/2002 12:19:02 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: irish guard
If the Dems win Congress, then they will be blocking Bush, and setting him up to lose in 2004. A 2002 Dem Congress would encourage Hillary to run in 2004. If we got Pres. Hillary with a Dem Congress, the USA would never recover.
17 posted on 07/18/2002 12:24:47 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Bob J
I still remember Peter Jennings on the day AFTER the 1992 elections announcing that the economy had now grown for the 6th straight month. Before the election, he was always bad-mouthing the economy. He had those economic figures for the past 5 months, but he sat on them. That was the last time I watched network news. They are totally corrupted by their liberal bias. They do NOT present the news, just their views.
18 posted on 07/18/2002 12:28:16 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I recall back in 1998, Newt Gingrich was predicting roughly the same gains for the Republicans for roughly the same reason...presidential scandal (except then the presidential scandals actually existed and actually involved the President). I also recall Newt ended up resigning after the GOP actually lost seats. You'd think El Poco Loco Rojo Dicko would have learned from Newt's example.
19 posted on 07/18/2002 12:34:15 PM PDT by RichInOC
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Gephardt Says Democrat Party Could Pick Up 40 House Seats

Also, monkeys might fly out of my butt.

20 posted on 07/18/2002 12:35:48 PM PDT by Sloth
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To: Recovering_Democrat
House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt (D-Mo.) has told senior Democrats that the party could pick up as many as 40 House seats if the continuously unfolding corporate scandals can be kept on the political radar screen until November, according to sources.

Sounds like ol' Tricky Dick and the Democrats have some real incentive to fix the economy/stock market before the elections. Nice of them to sacrifice the country to their political power grab.

21 posted on 07/18/2002 12:41:47 PM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: Sloth
Also, monkeys might fly out of my butt.

Just back from Africa?

22 posted on 07/18/2002 12:43:37 PM PDT by jumpstartme
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To: Recovering_Democrat
"If the democrats regain control of the House....well, may God help the United States." - Soon to be ex-Congressman James Trafficant (D-Ohio), 7/18/02.
23 posted on 07/18/2002 12:44:22 PM PDT by TheGrimReaper
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Well as usual the democrats attack and the GOP wimps out

GOP should have been all over Enrons ties to Clinton/Gore, Martha Stewarts ties to Clinton, MacAuliffes financial corruption, Ernons contributions to Liberman etc etc etc

But the STUPID Party keeps its record intact
24 posted on 07/18/2002 12:44:24 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Freepers, a call to action. Will everyone who is in a state that has redistricted please contact me privately and give me the number of total seats gained and the likely gain/loss to the GOP of those extra seats only? It is my reading of the redistricting earlier in the year that the GOP was virtually guaranteed 20+ (I think 26 was the number I heard) NEW seats just from redistricting.
25 posted on 07/18/2002 1:06:53 PM PDT by LS
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To: Recovering_Democrat
There was a bumper sticker on a truck here in Albuquerque, it read: "If Gingrich is a Newt, then Gephart is a Dick".
ROTFLMAO!
26 posted on 07/18/2002 1:15:42 PM PDT by wjcsux
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Have I mentioned lately that the dems like geppie and those who follow him are scum? Through and through? No heart, no soul, just scum lusting after power.

May God bring forth the righteous men and women who are fit to run this country in November, and deny all others the opportunity to spread their destruction and chaos.

How many more Americans would now lie in their graves, or be vaporized, since 9/11, if gore stole the presidency?

27 posted on 07/18/2002 1:17:59 PM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: GretchenEE
amen to all that.
28 posted on 07/18/2002 2:06:53 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Sloth
"Also, monkeys might fly out of my butt."

If and when the monkeys fly out of your butt, they will be much more intelligent and attractive than the Democratic leadership and will be at least 10 times more likely to have meaningful, new ideas to improve public policy.

29 posted on 07/18/2002 9:23:15 PM PDT by hometoroost
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Geppy must have fell out of ole Dasholes tree house and hit his head!!
30 posted on 07/18/2002 9:26:31 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Recovering_Democrat
New math?
31 posted on 07/18/2002 10:17:30 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: muggs
bump
32 posted on 07/18/2002 10:18:42 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Barry Goldwater
While I agree with you Mr.Goldwater, (wow, I never thought I would say those words :)) the average American out there is busy watching sports and Oprah after the news and all they know is what the media is telling them. And we all know what that is!
33 posted on 07/18/2002 10:26:22 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: irish guard
Gores campaign manager blames Zogby for Gore losing the election. Zogby's polling made gore go to california and campaign instead of going to Tennesee. Zogby believed that Gore would win his own home state, but was in danger of losing california (god that was stupid of them). He also told Gore that west virginian's are showing high concern about gun control and the enviorment. He talked like a enriormental ass and gun grabber, The concern these people has was about losing there fire arms and there jobs (they worked in the coal mines). Zogby is a partisian idiot who likes to believe dems are doing great, to the point of delusion which irrates many dems.
34 posted on 07/18/2002 10:39:00 PM PDT by Sonny M
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To: Recovering_Democrat
I THINK DEMRATS HAVE PUSHED THEIR WAY UP AND BECOME CEO'S AND ARE SABOTAGING THESE COMPANIES WHILE CASHING OUT SO THEY CAN GIVE MONEY TO THE DEMRATS, CREATE LAWSUITS THAT WILL ENRICH THE DEMRATS MORE AND BLAME THE WHOLE THING ON REPUBLICANS. THEY ARE PART OF THE CONSPIRACY TO DESTROY CAPITALISM AND IT'S SUPPORTERS. EX GARY WINNIG, SAL WAKSAL, BOB PITTMAN, ETC.

I ALSO BELIEVE THE DEMRATS HAVE SENT OUT LETTERS TO A LOT OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND CORP BUDDIES TELLING THEM TO SELL THEIR STOCKS AND TANK THE MARKET. REMEMBER DURING THE GOVT SHUTDOWN IN 1995 CLINTON ARRANGED A DEAL WITH THE UNIONS THAT THEY WOULD RAISE HOLY HELL ABOUT SHUTDOWN KNOWING THEY WOULD BE REWARDED LATER.
35 posted on 07/18/2002 11:07:04 PM PDT by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
bump
36 posted on 07/18/2002 11:57:39 PM PDT by timestax
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To: hometoroost
If and when the monkeys fly out of your butt, they will be much more intelligent and attractive than the Democratic leadership and will be at least 10 times more likely to have meaningful, new ideas to improve public policy.

The monkeys that could conceivably fly out of my butt will also have a much better grasp of both Constitutional principles and macroeconomics.

37 posted on 07/19/2002 6:12:53 AM PDT by Sloth
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To: Recovering_Democrat
"He said if this thing plays out right......

Translation: "If we lie our butts off long enough for the sheeple to start believing us."

38 posted on 07/19/2002 6:24:11 AM PDT by peteram
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To: Sonny M
Say what you want about John Zogby, many here flame him with great regularity, but we all watched other polls (particularly that one that called people using a phone system)that had Bush up in Florida...big time (not), winning Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa and even Pennsylvania. All were wrong, so Bush's pollsters goofed too. All I am saying is Zogby was the only pollster who had the race close at election time and was correct....all others were wrong. The moral is to be careful in slamming Zogby. As much as I hate the fact that he is a Democrap, he is more accurate than others when polling the big picture.
39 posted on 07/19/2002 7:12:24 AM PDT by irish guard
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To: Callahan
I think they are doing more than praying. Between having Clinton believers like Robert Rubin and Alan Greenspan in positions to deliberately manipulate stock prices downward, and Bush's failure to clean house at IRS, SEC, etc, there is going to be more bad news in the coming months for the sole purpose of affecting the elections (IMHO)
40 posted on 07/19/2002 7:48:41 AM PDT by afz400
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To: peteram
If this plays out right...

Notice the priority... gaining a few seats for the RATS, not giving a damn about the economic well-being of the American people. In truth, if this plays out right, the economy and the market will recover. If a Republican used this vicious word construction, he'd be run out of town by the media.

RATS are scheming liars. It's that simple.

41 posted on 07/19/2002 8:44:45 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Better bring a Ryder truck...

42 posted on 07/19/2002 9:00:22 AM PDT by TADSLOS
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To: TADSLOS
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43 posted on 07/19/2002 11:43:26 AM PDT by timestax
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To: Recovering_Democrat
"Gephardt Says Democrat Party Could Pick Up 40 House Seats"

In other words, Democrats Planning Massive Vote Fraud in November.

44 posted on 07/19/2002 3:45:37 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: StormEye
In other words, Democrats Planning Massive Vote Fraud in November. 44 posted on 7/19/02 3:45 PM Pacific by StormEye [

Plenty of dead people voting, and busloads of winos going from county to county and state to state!

45 posted on 07/20/2002 5:35:07 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Recovering_Democrat
In your dreams, Geppy!
46 posted on 07/20/2002 5:46:56 PM PDT by fred flinch
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To: Recovering_Democrat
They better go to the gym and get in shape first.
47 posted on 07/20/2002 5:48:25 PM PDT by jwh_Denver
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To: Recovering_Democrat
which house, is he picking up furniture? just kidding......he serves his party above the country like the rest of them.
48 posted on 07/20/2002 5:55:00 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
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49 posted on 07/22/2002 2:33:49 PM PDT by timestax
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