Skip to comments.Israel readying anti-sniper system
Posted on 07/20/2002 4:10:03 PM PDT by knighthawk
WASHINGTON: Israeli marksmen and counter-terror squads deployed along the Palestinian areas of the West Bank are field-testing a new anti-sniper system designed for the early detection of enemy snipers, media reports said.
The anti-sniper system, Believer is completing the developmental testing under actual urban warfare conditions and awaits approval for the full rate production, Defence News Weekly quoted Israeli officials as saying.
The system that costs around 2 million dollars per copy, can detect the enemy sniper within one-third of a second tracing the bullet path and it either return fire automatically or reveal the exact sniper location to the tactical field commanders.
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What frequency would it take to resolve a bullet?
Now that is something.
(Ever see Robocop? Remember the boardroom scene at the beginning?)
Rifle bullets are supersonic, and consequently give off a small sonic boom. Audible, so my long-ago military training class instructor noted, as a snap as it passes by. It follows that data from a sufficent microphone array beside/behind (and, obviously, preferably also in front of) the target could be compared to infer the track of the bullet. The further apart the microphones roughly along the bullet's path, the greater the potential resolution capability--but you would need to know the geometry of the microphone array, if it wasn't a constant. So you could deploy microphones by mortar shell if you needed them widely spaced, but that would leave you with operational problems figuring out where the mikes actually fell. That might be solvable by deliberately firing a known shot or two over the array, perhaps . . . but if you had a squad of troops and each one had a mike with some kind of position measurement transponder . . . After that, it would be a matter of operating a Kalman filter, perhaps, to infer the flight paths of incoming rifle shots. Computer processing power would be, at this late date, the least of the problems, given that GPS boxes are under $1000 and we're talking about somewhat similar analysis.
It seems like it would be easy to fool the system with decoy gunshots.
Very cool that the Israelis have gotten it out of the laboratory and field ready. But two million dollars a copy? . . . Holy cow! Must be huge . . . truck mounted or something.
Suppressed ("silenced") rifles make very little noise at the barrel, but if the bullet is faster than the speed of sound, it still makes a noise (and according to this article, that is what is tracked).
Having a suppressor wouldn't help, unless terrorists were using subsonic ammunition. But subsonic rounds are really, really wimpy, and won't penetrate armor.
So the system would work very well against enemy snipers.
"You must be accurately when you are speaking to General Yas--"
[The relevant technology was in its early stages when Bolt, Beranek and Newman conducted tests in Dealey Plaza for the House Select Committee on Assassinations. Had the system been in place November 22, 1963, it could have shot E. Howard Hunt and Woody Harrelson's father. Or not.]
Wish I could find a reference to the show on discovery.com. They seem to have taken it down. I'm sure someone else will remember the show. It was amazing . . . Every bullet's path traced out in a different color as the machine gun was being fired. My impression was that soldiers in the field would someday be able to wear these things on their helmets, kind of a heads-up display showing where enemy fire was coming from.
If something like this could be field deployed, it seems like it would be great for bivouac perimeter security, and we would have heard more about it.
Friday, June 28, 2002 Contact:
WASHINGTON, D.C. Laguna Industries will assemble a very high technology radar demonstration for research on how to counter the terrible threat from snipers targeting our soldiers. The House of Representatives provided the money in the 2003 Military Appropriation Bill passed on June 27.
The Rapid Target Acquisition and Tracking System (RTATS) will be a laser radar that can rapidly deploy on a High Mobility Multipurpose Vehicles (HMMV). The radar will immediately pinpoint the exact location of an enemy rifleman in a building or in camouflaged vegetation. The HMMV has the ability to transport the RTATS over rough terrain in open country. It can then maneuver in the confined quarters of a city. This will mean close coverage of our troops as they move into the extremely hazardous environment of street fighting.
Fighting in cities is the worst nightmare of an infantryman. I believe that the RTATS will be one of the most important technical breakthroughs we can provide for our soldiers and Marines, according to Congressman Skeen.
The RTATS was developed by Trex Enterprises of San Diego and will be integrated by Laguna Industries on to the HMMV.
According to Trex company president Anne Pol, Trex has been impressed with the maturity and depth of experience at the Laguna Industries facility. The Laguna experience with testing other sophisticated electronics in the field environment provides confidence that the integrated RTATS system will be useful to U.S. troops almost immediately.
After initial testing on the Laguna Reservation the system will undergo military testing at the White Sands Missile Range.
The development of RTATS will provide several business opportunities to Laguna. Potential customers for the system include law enforcement agencies, like the border patrol, and tracking instrumentation for test ranges.
CILAS SLD400 uses an optical head (diode laser with video or thermal camera) detects sniper's optics. July 1998 (issue 150) of Revue Aerospatiale. French system.
Have no doubt Sandia Labs in Albuquerque and Los Alamos National Labs in Los Alamos are on top of anti-sniper technology.
The airborne laser is being developed as part of the anti-ballistic missile defence here. Some of these people go into bubbles in other parts of the world just to chat.
The phrase, "Go ahead; make my day," takes on even greater irony.
Lasers: Hard-Hitting Watchdogs
The best way to dissuade snipers is to deprive them of their impunity by ensuring they know that their exact location has been pinpointed. CILAS demonstrated this at Eurosatory with its directed-optics laser detector- the first production unit intended ultimately for delivery to the French army. This ground-breaking technology can be expected to bring other developments in its wake.
Quietly, free from media hype, things have suddenly changed since a prototype of the SLD400 was received by the French armed forces. Behind this mundane designation lurks a device capable of detecting, locating and indentifying the optics with which snipers are equipped.
The scope of application of the SLD400 is much wider and can include the protection of VIPs and pinpointing sharpshooters or the binoculars of terrorists preparing criminal acts.
The technology enables the building of databases of specific optical device signatures to better assess threat levels.
The SLD 400 is designed to detect and locate any kind of optical or optronic hostile sight on the battlefield or sensitive zones.
Fitted on a tripod or an observation turret, the SLD achieves the following missions:
stand-by detection of pointed optics, often associated with an immediate threat,
active scanning and monitoring of specific areas,
defeating and deterring of snipers.
The SLD 400 drastically improves the permanent control of the battlefield. For the Armed Forces the SLD 400 detects MBT and AFV sights. The SLD 400 also brings a significant shooting accuracy improvement during the operation carried out by the Special units. Increased V.I.P.'s protection : detection and neutralisation of an aggressor equipped with a high accuracy telescope is the permanent commitment of the Security Services.
The SLD 400 consists of: an optical head with a laser transmitter and a high-tech receiver; an electronic assembly including the command and control unit as well as the video monitor of the observed zone; and a power supply with rechargeable or disposable batteries. The SLD 400 can be coupled with other detectors and surveillance system (Infrared, Thermal Imaging Camera, acoustic detector, etc.).
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Though, eventually, the technology will end up in the wrong hands. Still, but that time, we ought to have something better.
Then you will have a vastly less-effective sniper. Subsonic rounds are required for sound-suppressed fire and the benefit of a rifle is speeding a large bullet up to high (supersonic) velocitities that are capable of penetrating body armor, lightly armored vehicles, and maintaining a flat trajectory to a distant target.
Been in development for a few years . First I saw of the (not this one specificly) same sort of system was Bosnia.......
I would think that for the mid term this type of system would be best for the protection of long term fixed positions where all the local acoustic geometry and anomolies can be debugged thoroughly. That is to say, protecting an Israeli neighborhood or settlement from the enemy, or high value fixed targets such as 1600 PA Ave etc.
I don't think this will be the type of system which would just be rolled up to a new site and prove effective right away, but I could be wrong.
Countermeasures? Cover the lens until the last moment, shoot and scoot? What else to do?
I must assume that if this is getting print today, the USSS has had it for years.
This sounds impressive! How goes the book?
A a Marine I could deliver headshots with nine rounds out of every ten rounds from 600 yards out using only a peephole sight.
If this system works by detecting the optics that snipers use....it wont be picking off any Marine Corps Riflemen anytime soon.