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CONSERVATIVES TURN ON ASHCROFT
Drudge Report ^ | 07/23/2002 | Matt Drudge

Posted on 07/23/2002 6:07:53 PM PDT by Pokey78

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To: justshe; Fred Mertz
I must be having a senior moment, but I don't really understand how race entered into this. The actor I was thinking of looks Caucasion to me, but irrespective of that, the race card simply didn't cross my mind. Beyond that, I will let my entire body of posts stand as to this charge or any other. I know it is hubris, but I am reasonably proud of them.
181 posted on 07/23/2002 8:55:21 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
LOL.....I think Fred views 'welsh'........and your use of the word 'welshed' as racist. NO idea where he got THAT. :-)
182 posted on 07/23/2002 8:58:30 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Torie
I'll leave you and your fellow Ashcroft fans to keep the torches lit. Good night.
183 posted on 07/23/2002 8:58:49 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Pokey78
Dear Grover Norquist, Know your role & shut your hole. Especially to the NYT.

Norquist is a Arab arse-kissing piece of excrement. He is a traitor by aiding and abetting our Saudi enemy. He should be shunned by every right-thinking patriotic Conservative.

184 posted on 07/23/2002 8:59:55 PM PDT by montag813
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To: justshe
I forgot the smiley face after he used the Welsh slander. No one has a sense of humor here.
185 posted on 07/23/2002 9:00:15 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
I notice you didn't respond re: Reagan and HIS politics. Bringing up fawning over Bush is irrelevant to my post.
186 posted on 07/23/2002 9:00:52 PM PDT by justshe
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To: justshe
Are Celts Caucasion? You don't need to answer that. My Dad claimed he had Welsh ancestry. That has not been verified, but his middle name was Wyatt, a Welsh name, so it cannot be totally discounted. I should have asked him if he thought he was related to that other Welshman, Thomas Jefferson, since his paternal forebears came from the same state. But at the time I didn't know Jefferson was Welsh.
187 posted on 07/23/2002 9:02:39 PM PDT by Torie
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To: sinkspur; southern rock
I don't think Neighborhood Watch can come into your house and snitch you up. TIPS puts a publicly acceptable face onto such behavior (similar to the FBI suggesting that they be allowed to torture people). Changes the public's perception and makes such behavior an acceptable practice believing it's a sign of patriotism. This loyalty to the state disguised as patriotism has been the hallmark of just about every despotic regime there has been.
188 posted on 07/23/2002 9:03:40 PM PDT by droberts
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To: Fred Mertz
PC hypersensitivity seems to be extant in this neighborhood. LOL.
189 posted on 07/23/2002 9:03:53 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Sabertooth
Oh, I don't know, Ashcroft's behavior seems to have divided people on FR.
190 posted on 07/23/2002 9:05:29 PM PDT by droberts
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To: Pokey78
Well...I believe this one. Any true conservative would be very opposed to what John is doing. Which is further proff that the current mind set on FR overall is clueless. It seems like we have been taken over by a bunch of fascist's. That is because every big government-socialist-fascist-Anti Constitutional thing that is pushed by these guys is cheered loudly on FR now. I am glad to know that many of the conservative's else where still have a clue. It is our only hope to preserve anything that even resembles the country founded by our fore fathers.
191 posted on 07/23/2002 9:05:39 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Jhoffa_
If you turn dubya loose with this today because you like and trust him then tomorrow it's gonna go to someone else.

I try to not take such a pessimistic view of my neighbors. America pulled together during WWII and endured rationing and neighborhood watch wardens, and enforced blackouts just fine, or so the history so purports since they are no more.

192 posted on 07/23/2002 9:20:55 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: The Vast Right Wing
Given that this is coming out in the NY Slimes, I suspect it is a hit job. The Slimes is trying to set the agenda.

Yes. Divide and conquer. Just like their phony "polls". Create an issue, do a "poll" (or do an "interview"), cite the poll (or interview) as "news". Mission accomplished. Repeat as necessary. Goebbels would certainly approve.

193 posted on 07/23/2002 9:22:18 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Pokey78
The New York Times: take a little truth and twist it into lies.
194 posted on 07/23/2002 9:26:07 PM PDT by DB
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To: wallcrawlr
At least he allows you the right to have gun in your home to defend yourself.

Er, the Constitution prevents the Government from interfering with this inalienable right. If Ascroft interfered, he would be impeachable. IMO.

195 posted on 07/23/2002 9:29:14 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Thane_Banquo
<< using private citizens to spy on Americans and spying on places of worship>> Hey buddy. I love this idea. If you're not an Islamic Fundamentalist what you got to worry about? You have no idea about the seriousness of these radicals and how they wish to annilalate us.
196 posted on 07/23/2002 9:30:45 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: RJCogburn
and none of these actions were forced upon him by the NYTimes.

He was probably acting in the interests of, if not by order of, "New Tone" Bush, for better or worse.

197 posted on 07/23/2002 9:32:26 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Jhoffa_
in case you haven't noticed I am on quite a lot of threads giving him kudos also.

Sorry... bash once, forever branded.



There are lists, you know...

198 posted on 07/23/2002 9:33:56 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Fred Mertz; ex-Texan; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; Orion78; shaggy eel; babylonian; Uncle Bill; ...
>I want to believe we'll be okay, but I really don't see that in the cards. I'm the eternal pessimist even if I want the best for this country. I'm getting ready to leave it while I can. I'll come back when the cleansing is complete. I really want to come and go as I please and be left alone, that's not asking too much is it? I'm not able to do so here anymore.

Amen.  Good is pretty well content to live and let live and co-exist with evil, however, evil will always hunt down good to kill it.  Just ask the Jews.

199 posted on 07/23/2002 9:41:04 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: terilyn
Thanks for the nomination! };^D )
200 posted on 07/23/2002 9:50:21 PM PDT by RJayneJ
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