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Fusion Experiment Disappoints
BBC ^ | 7-25-2002

Posted on 07/25/2002 9:51:18 AM PDT by blam

Thursday, 25 July, 2002, 11:15 GMT 12:15 UK

Fusion experiment disappoints

The idea that we could build nuclear fusion reactors that relied on the extraordinary pressures and temperatures experienced inside tiny, collapsing bubbles in a liquid has suffered a grievous blow. New calculations all but rule out the controversial suggestion, made earlier this year by US and Russian researchers.

We've shown that chemistry occurs within a collapsing bubble, and that it limits the energy available during cavitation

Kenneth Suslick They fired sound waves through acetone, causing minute bubbles in the liquid to form and then collapse at temperatures of millions of degrees to produce small flashes of light.

Their claim was that atomic nuclei could fuse in these conditions, releasing colossal amounts of energy, just as happens in the Sun.

But fresh research from Kenneth Suslick and Yuri Didenko, of the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, now suggests the temperatures inside a single imploding bubble fall several million degrees short of that needed for fusion.

If confirmed, this would be a disappointment. Science is desperately looking for a practical fusion approach that would eliminate the need to use the far dirtier fission process currently employed in the world's nuclear reactors.

Sapping energy

It was in March that Rusi Taleyarkhan, and colleagues from the Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee and the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in New York (both US), reported their "table top" fusion experiment.

Taleyarkhan's work was done with an acetone liquid in which the normal hydrogen atoms had been replaced with deuterium

They claimed that by firing powerful sound waves through acetone they could make tiny bubbles expand and then implode, generating flashes of light and temperatures reaching millions of degrees Celsius.

The phenomenon, known as "sonoluminescence", has long been observed, but Taleyarkhan's team was the first to make strident claims that the conditions inside these "cavitating" bubbles could induce the fusion of heavy hydrogen nuclei. And they claimed the presence of tritium and excess neutrons as proof that fusion had occurred in their experiment.

But when the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign team examined closely what was going on inside individual bubbles, it said it found that chemical reactions in the interior of the bubbles were almost certainly sapping the energy available to drive a fusion event.

Controversial research

Illinois's Professor Kenneth Suslick said: "Some researchers have suggested that conditions within a cavitating bubble might be hot enough and have high enough pressure to generate nuclear fusion.

"But we've shown that chemistry occurs within a collapsing bubble, and that it limits the energy available during cavitation."

The original research was published in Science

Instead of the millions of degrees Celsius that are needed to drive a fusion event, Professor Suslick said the temperature inside the cavitating bubbles was only reaching 15-20,000 Celsius.

Taleyarkhan's research went through an exhaustive period of peer review before being published in the journal Science.

However, such was the controversy at the time, and claims that the experiment may have been contaminated, that Science also published material criticising the research simultaneously.

Professor Suslick's work has been published in the journal Nature.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; disappoints; energy; experiment; fusion; realscience; sonoluminescence

1 posted on 07/25/2002 9:51:18 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Our son won third place in the 5th grade for his Science Fair project on Nuclear Fusion. He was fascinated by the process and still is. I'll have to show him this article when he's finished with his Math lesson.
2 posted on 07/25/2002 10:33:07 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: blam
Temperature is the average kinetic energy of any number of molecules. To say that the temperature falls below that critical for fusion is only saying that on average, the molecules don't have enough KE to fuse atoms.

Well, no duh, if it didn't these researchers would be the first to know and the last to tell.

This is about as conclusive as Viking confirming no life exists on Mars. It's not a positive result, but it isn't a negative either.

3 posted on 07/25/2002 10:43:44 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog
I wish someone would actually try to reproduce the Farnsworth fusion experiments which really looked like they worked!!!!!

He was quite a genius, and the real inventor of television, not RCA. I can't understand why his experiments have never been tried to be duplicated. It makes no sense at all for them to have been ignored due to current NIH.

Please see: http://www.farnovision.com/chronicles/fusion/vassilatos.html

4 posted on 07/25/2002 11:12:34 AM PDT by dickmc
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To: SuziQ
" I'll have to show him this article when he's finished with his Math lesson."

Great, hope he benefits from it.

5 posted on 07/25/2002 11:24:55 AM PDT by blam
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To: Physicist
We've shown that chemistry occurs within a collapsing bubble, and that it limits the energy available during cavitation

Sounds like some vocational myopia.
The cold fusion dudes were so focused on a physics-based solution that they forgot their chemistry.
Well, for the time being we still have advanced fission reactors to address our energy needs.

6 posted on 07/25/2002 11:41:42 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: *RealScience
Index Bump
7 posted on 07/25/2002 12:16:19 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: blam
That's disappointing indeed. They need 10,000,000 degrees and fell short by 9,998,000. Maybe next time.
8 posted on 07/25/2002 12:19:19 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: dickmc
Great read, and you know what they say. If you want something done....
9 posted on 07/25/2002 12:51:36 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: dickmc
He was quite a genius, and the real inventor of television, not RCA. I can't understand why his experiments have never been tried to be duplicated.

There is an active community of amateur open source hobbyists researchers, several of whom have gotten fusors up & running & pumping out neutrons. I don't know how big or powerful the largest ones are, but I don't think anyone's found any hard theoretical limits so far.

10 posted on 07/25/2002 1:07:13 PM PDT by jennyp
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To: Willie Green
The cold fusion dudes were so focused on a physics-based solution that they forgot their chemistry.

And some people were so focussed on the knee-jerk nay-sayers that they forgot to look at what was actually going on in these reactions (since replicated in labs all around the world using the original and other types of apparatus).
11 posted on 07/25/2002 1:11:57 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: jennyp
There best use seems to be as a neutron source.

Getting one to break even on fusion is at this point a materials problem if I remember correctly. The electrodes start eroding rather quickly when you get to a very high energy level. Looks like one would be quite stunning to see in operation.

12 posted on 07/25/2002 1:28:41 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: dickmc
Nice article on Farnsworth! Thanks!

The Boy Who Invented Television: A Story of Inspiration, Persistence and Quiet Passion The Boy Who Invented Television:
A Story of Inspiration,
Persistence and Quiet Passion

by Paul Schatzkin


13 posted on 09/10/2004 10:44:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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