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Agent Admits to Anti-Muslim Slurs
washington post. ^ | Thursday, July 25, 2002; 7:26 PM | Geralda Miller

Posted on 07/25/2002 5:23:00 PM PDT by Militiaman7

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

DETROIT A Secret Service agent has admitted he scrawled anti-Muslim statements on a prayer calendar during the home search of a man charged with smuggling bogus checks into the United States, authorities said Thursday.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: muslim; secretserviceagent; shishani
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Boo Hoo Hoo! That mean American wrote nasty things on my calendar. Boo Hoo Hoo!

Pack up, Go Home, Don't come back (after you get out of prison)


1 posted on 07/25/2002 5:23:00 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Militiaman7
Unprofessional and uncalled for, though.

How vigorously would we be griping about a Secret Service agent scrawling anti-Christian slurs on the calendar of a "right-wing extremist" involved in passing bogus checks?

2 posted on 07/25/2002 5:27:55 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Militiaman7
Maybe he remembers 9-11.
3 posted on 07/25/2002 5:28:00 PM PDT by veronica
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To: Militiaman7
WhoopdiDooooo.... Arabs as victims.... heard that song and dance before.... Let me detonate a mushroom cloud over Mecca.... Then the U.N. and E.U's incessant whining about mistreatment of Muslims and Arabs might have some credibility.
4 posted on 07/25/2002 5:29:41 PM PDT by 1bigdictator
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To: veronica
I sure hope he didn't call the guy a raghead, turbin monkey, diaper top, camel jockey, or some such. It might of hurt his feelings.
5 posted on 07/25/2002 5:32:16 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Poohbah
I see anti-Christian bigotry, slurs or whatever everyday. In public schools, On TV, you name it its there.
6 posted on 07/25/2002 5:32:20 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Militiaman7
Is graffiti part of the special agents' "special" training?

This type of absolute stupidity by an armed (with license to kill) agent of the federal government is what "colors" so many.

But never mind the long term affects, this guy will get a slap on the wrist and be back out poste-haste.
7 posted on 07/25/2002 5:35:30 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: San Jacinto
I'm from the Detroit area.

His "slur" was CHRIST LIVES.



8 posted on 07/25/2002 5:37:05 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon
Seems like a fact, not a slur. Of course if you are a pagan you might see it otherwise, but why be a pagan?
9 posted on 07/25/2002 5:42:15 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: Poohbah
Big friggin' deal. Who cares except the mass media?
10 posted on 07/25/2002 5:42:17 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Militiaman7
How can proclaiming the truth be considered a "slur"?
11 posted on 07/25/2002 5:46:48 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: dennisw
Sorry, I expect more from those I entrust arrest powers to. It's a personality quirk of mine.
12 posted on 07/25/2002 5:48:20 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Militiaman7
Shishani's brother, Abdallah Shishani, said he and his wife found that "Islam is Evil" and "Christ is King" had been written on the prayer calendar attached to the refrigerator.

And the slur is ???????
13 posted on 07/25/2002 5:48:31 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Militiaman7
I see anti-Christian bigotry, slurs or whatever everyday. In public schools, On TV, you name it its there.

I fail to see how that makes this agent's behavior acceptable.

14 posted on 07/25/2002 5:49:14 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Gritty
If you say that anyone is/was a prophet or Christ is the Son of God, or any other thing (truth) that puts down Mohammed its a slur, or blasphemy to a Muslim, punishable by death.

Remember: Islam is peace.

15 posted on 07/25/2002 5:52:12 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Poohbah
I am rather surprised that a guy with ten year's seniority would use such poor judgement. This was so juvenile, and what did it accomplish other than to make him look like an idiot.

Inserting bias into a search warrant execution is always a good idea. < /sarcasm >

16 posted on 07/25/2002 5:54:03 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Poohbah
Crude, rude, and certainly stupid,

Nothing to cry about.

Maybe President Bush should apologize to Islam.

17 posted on 07/25/2002 5:56:54 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Militiaman7
Remember: Islam is peace.

Ok. I'll be sure and remember that next September 11th!

18 posted on 07/25/2002 5:57:10 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: DoughtyOne
Well, to quote the CEO of the Bubba Gump Shrimp Company: "Stupid is as stupid does."
19 posted on 07/25/2002 5:57:20 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: roses of sharon
Hello -- that is an interesting claim.

If true, and if it could be publicized, such a fact would help offset negative public reaction to this unfortunate incident.

While I think defacing private property shouldn't be done, if your claim is true, I don't believe this case is as offensive as to warrant the spin in the article.

Can you post a published link or citation? It would help!

PS: If you are correct, it kind of sounds like the kind of thing Ann Coulter writes about in her current book.

20 posted on 07/25/2002 5:58:01 PM PDT by Museum Twenty
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To: Militiaman7
Crude, rude, and certainly stupid,

Nothing to cry about.

Nope, nothing to cry about. Nothing to keep this gentleman employed over, though.

21 posted on 07/25/2002 6:00:18 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Militiaman7
This Secret Service agent sounds like a great American! God bless him. And maybe he had someone lost on 9/11. My sister-in-law got caught running for her life on 9/11 at the WTC. She hates Muslims with a passion as do I. These people want to destroy America. Why should we not hate them? The Secret Service agent should receive a medal. As long as America wants to be "diversified" and as long as Muslims want to take advantage of America's supreme "kindess" they will make inroads that are not acceptable to me, an American.
22 posted on 07/25/2002 6:05:56 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: maxwellp
This Secret Service agent sounds like a great American!

He also sounds like a lousy Secret Service agent.

23 posted on 07/25/2002 6:07:26 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Get a grip why don't ya.

You'd actually fire someone over this?

I guess PC is really taking over.

Have the guy apologize, make him write 100 times on a blackboard: I will not write Christian remarks on Muslim 'fridge calendars again.

End of story.

Whatever happened to the punishment should fit the crime? Oh, I forgot, this concerns Islam. (Calling PC Police)

24 posted on 07/25/2002 6:08:12 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Militiaman7
While I hate muslims and wish them nothing less than a painful death for every last one of them, this was a stupid move --especially if it affects the outcome of a trial.

Then again, we are FOOLS for trying these subhumans in a court of law. We are at war with Islam (whether we like it or not) and these creatures are the enemy. This animal is nothing less than a saboteur and he should be taken out and shot.

But, this is just my opinion.

25 posted on 07/25/2002 6:08:23 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Militiaman7
If I were head of the FBI, I would give this man a commendation! I am so sick of PC everywhere! Can anyone image how we would have fought WWII in a PC fashion? You West Coast people would now be speaking Japanese and the East Coast, German!
26 posted on 07/25/2002 6:09:16 PM PDT by texson66
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To: Poohbah
Nope, nothing to cry about. Nothing to keep this gentleman employed over, though.

I agree. He will be quietly reassigned outside the Secret Service or be fired.

If this doofus wants to take his chances, break into the house, and scrawl graffiti on his own time, he should knock himself out.

But, to act like a bigoted teenager on MY DIME deserves a boot up the ass.

27 posted on 07/25/2002 6:10:21 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Militiaman7
he and his wife found that "Islam is Evil" and "Christ is King" had been written on the prayer calendar attached to the refrigerator

Sounds like a good idea for a bumper sticker;

Islam is Evil - Christ is King!

28 posted on 07/25/2002 6:12:55 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: Militiaman7
You'd actually fire someone over this?

Yep.

What if a SS agent, while investigating a threat made by a pasty-faced white guy, wrote "Jesus sucks. To hell with Christians", all over the side of his double-wide?

You'd be demanding his scalp.

I don't want people who work for tax money expressing their bigoted opinions while on the job!

If this dummy wants to do it on his own time, let him.

29 posted on 07/25/2002 6:15:13 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Poohbah
Poohbah< Nope, nothing to cry about. Nothing to keep this gentleman employed over, though.

Well... he might be black, in which case, good luck firing him.

30 posted on 07/25/2002 6:16:33 PM PDT by 1bigdictator
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To: Militiaman7
Get a grip why don't ya.

I do have a grip.

You'd actually fire someone over this?

Any evidence from this search will probably be ruled inadmissable due to this agent's actions, possibly jeopardizing the case he was working, and possibly allowing one or more terrorists to remain at liberty to plan their nefarious deeds. As far as I'm concerned, he should find a line of work that is less demanding.

I guess PC is really taking over.

No, I'm just one of those weirdos who expects agents to maintain a professional demeanor and not jeopardize the case with their own stupidity.

Whatever happened to the punishment should fit the crime? Oh, I forgot, this concerns Islam. (Calling PC Police)

Whatever happened to expecting agents to behave professionally while working a case? Oh, I forgot, this concerns Islam (Calling the Spastic Freeper Knee-Jerk Police).

31 posted on 07/25/2002 6:17:28 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: sinkspur
Wrong.

See it all the time, in the paper, on TV at the movies, even here on FR from time to time.

I just try to remember what my daddy always said from the pulpit. It went something like this "there isn't anyone going to send you to hell except yourself".

32 posted on 07/25/2002 6:21:43 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Militiaman7
Do you understand the difference between a private citizen or entity such as a newspaper expressing those views, and a Secret Service agent expressing those views in an official capacity while serving a search warrant?
33 posted on 07/25/2002 6:26:31 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
What a great autobiography, Poohbah "Spastic Knee-Jerk Freeper", but I don't think it will sell well at amazon.com

I could care less about the guy I think it was stupid but he should not loose his job over this.

34 posted on 07/25/2002 6:28:51 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Militiaman7
You get the kind of behavior you tolerate. Next time you hear about some "militia man" getting roughed up by the Feds, don't complain.
35 posted on 07/25/2002 6:32:20 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Militiaman7
Bump. Its not like there is overflowing talent at the secret service... he seems like a keeper to me. Zero tolerance if you disparage a minority... but should a minority espouse bigotry against whites and Jews he/she is hailed as a enlightened multiculturalist.
36 posted on 07/25/2002 6:35:28 PM PDT by 1bigdictator
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To: Poohbah
You are equating 3 or 4 words written on a calender to someone getting roughed up by the Feds?

As the former Congressman from Ohio said "Beam me up".

37 posted on 07/25/2002 6:37:46 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Militiaman7
I've heard people pitch a fit because they got called a "militia wingnut" and claimed that as being "roughed up" and "abused" by the FBI.

As far as what this guy did--it was wrong for him to do it, it was wrong for his pettiness to jeopardize the case, and if he can't contain himself while on official business, then he needs to find less demanding work. That's all.

38 posted on 07/25/2002 6:42:20 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Militiaman7
You are equating 3 or 4 words written on a calender to someone getting roughed up by the Feds?

Those three or four words will allow some slick defense attorney to Furmanize this guy and possibly wreck the case.

The galactically stupid have no business in the Secret Service.

39 posted on 07/25/2002 6:42:48 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Militiaman7
Secret Service agent has admitted he scrawled anti-Muslim statements on a prayer calendar

Good on him!

40 posted on 07/25/2002 6:43:39 PM PDT by HennepinPrisoner
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To: sinkspur; Poohbah
You know I hate most lawyers about as much as I do bankers and Islamist.

I reserve comments on any lawyer that would try to get this guy off on something as stupid and insignificant as this.

41 posted on 07/25/2002 6:50:46 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Militiaman7
You know I hate most lawyers about as much as I do bankers and Islamist.

That hate and $1.99 will get you a cup off espresso at Starbucks.

I reserve comments on any lawyer that would try to get this guy off on something as stupid and insignificant as this.

Fine. That reservation will not stop the lawyer from using this incident to do precisely that. That is the defense counsel's job: to use whatever the prosecution hands him to get his client acquitted.

In the real world, actions have consequences. If the possible consequences of this nitwit's nitwittery include freedom for a terrorist, then he needs to find work that is more tolerant of his being a nitwit.

42 posted on 07/25/2002 6:54:21 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: TomGuy
"And the slur is ???????"

I don't see any slur. Only truth. Pressure builds. People have to release it somewhere. He didn't shoot anybody, though he has probably felt like it a few times since 9/11.

43 posted on 07/25/2002 6:56:06 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: jimmyBEEgood
I'm just glad to see that at least one person woking for the GOOBERment is making WISE use of their time

Giving the defense a nice way to throw evidence against the defendant out of court is a WISE use of a LEO's time?

45 posted on 07/25/2002 6:58:48 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Militiaman7
"Maybe President Bush should apologize to Islam."

Or have the offending agent grovel before Shishani...facing Mecca of course.

46 posted on 07/25/2002 6:59:26 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Poohbah
I remember a Muslim Calendar circulating in the Middle East with a picture of WTC attack on it and celebrating the attack. I wonder if this was one of them. (Just a thought)

It would be a sad day in America if what you describe happens.

I believe O'Reilly addressed this recently. About lawyers who know their clients are quilty but will do anything to get them off. His example was I think a killing and the lawyers money was "blood" money. To me it would be the same thing. IMHO the guy had the checks to cash to fund terrorist activities here and abroad.

47 posted on 07/25/2002 7:05:21 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Poohbah
You're doing a commendable job, Poohbah, but it's a losing battle. The same folks around here who will call and LEO a jack-booted thug for writing a no-seatbelt ticket will give the same LEO a pass when the target is muslim.

Incidentally, I agree that "Christ is King" is a true statement, and not a slur. Irrelevant. The issue is defacement of private property. Let a cop spraypaint his opinion the property of anyone on this thread during an otherwise legal search, and the howls would be heard all over FR (and rightfully so).

48 posted on 07/25/2002 7:11:09 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: maxwellp
"The Secret Service agent should receive a medal"

My thought was that he was simply expressing what a great many Americans think. We have been gagged far too long by the liberal's idea of diversity and the censorship on speech that accompanies it. It is destructive. Simple as that. These people need to realize that they are not welcome here. They need to have their activities scrutinized. We need to make them uncomfortable. I don't really care if they get offended. I get more than a little offended when 3000 of my countrymen are attacked amd killed and I see these Muslim monsters on tv cheering about it. We owe them NOTHING!

49 posted on 07/25/2002 7:11:20 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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