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Parents Protest 'Homosexual Rights' in Virginia School District (Update) ^ | 7/26/02 | Lawrence Morahan

Posted on 07/26/2002 4:36:38 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: EdReform; Betty Jane
Thanks for the great info.
41 posted on 07/26/2002 12:14:54 PM PDT by BufordP
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To: vin-one; BufordP; Jimmy Valentine's brother
Thanks for being there and reporting back to us. I couldn't get there last night, but will try harder to make the next meeting.
42 posted on 07/26/2002 12:15:30 PM PDT by Angelwood
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To: BufordP; Betty Jane; Ligeia; vin-one; Angelwood; Jimmy Valentine's brother
The International Organization of Heterosexual Rights
43 posted on 07/26/2002 12:24:04 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: kattracks
Straight Pride bump!

Click for link to StraightPrideWear.

44 posted on 07/26/2002 12:55:46 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: BufordP
I guess I did see the back of your head, Sorry I missed the FR logo, I would
Have at least said hello, You had two big women behind, you they were scary. I did see Ann's evil twin sister
I was so disappointed when she started clapping for mr Frye
what a waste.
45 posted on 07/26/2002 1:06:49 PM PDT by vin-one
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To: BufordP
Thanks for the links and the great report, BufordP. Here's my report I posted on the first thread:

Yes! I was there. I arrived about 7 p.m. and could immediately tell it was not your average School Board meeting. Two police cruisers were blocking the front drive, about a half-doze[n] uniformed officers were on hand, and about 100 people were assembled for a rally sponsored by Peter LaBarb[e]ra. He had a table full of information and a sound system set up for speeches.

They started off with the Pledge of Allegiance, someone led the group in "God Bless America" followed by a prayer. Robert Knight spoke, then Rita Thompson, one of the school board members on our side. Rita had wonderful news: the Agenda item for the vote was being withdrawn!

There were other speakers, I think a woman from Concerned Women for America and a school board candidate from Springfield; but I headed on in to the auditorium so I didn't hear what they had to say.

I caught up with BufordP and two of his very nice friends from work. We sat on the back row where we could keep an eye out for you and anyone else we knew. Jimmy Valentine's Brother arrived with a sign he'd made. We tried to behave, but it was difficult at times.

Frye, the School Board At-Large member who offered the Agenda Action Item did break down and cry, recalling his own struggle with discrimination as a young man. Not taking anything away from his own personal pain, many of us didn't agree that homosexuality equates with being a member of an earlier-persecuted group in this country since homosexuality involves behaviors, not race.

I stayed to hear Rita Thompson and Mychele Brickner, two other Republicans on the Board. Mychele had asked for a list of pro-homosexual title in the school libraries and had received a list of almost 200 titles totaling over 1,000 books! She said we will be addressing the issue in the future. We all left after we felt confident the Agenda item had indeed been pulled and they weren't up to some shenanigans and would vote after we left. We headed next door to Sweetwater Saloon for lots of laughs and conversation.

We won this battle, but it's not over. They are taking the issue to Richmond and to the Commonwealth Attorney, Jerry Kilgore for advice. Virginia is what is called a Dillon Rule state, meaning there are some issues localities cannot decide on their own. Someone said that Kilgore had already told another school district downstate in April they could not add 'sexual orientation' to their policy, so I am optimistic.

We now need to contact the Attorney General and encourage him to side with us. If he does, indeed plan on running for governor, my guess is he'll rule in our favor.

I'm sorry we missed you. All in all, it was a great night and I am much relieved. I want to thank everyone who took time to email, call, and attend. The chairman said he'd received 500 emails and calls on this issue, more than any other, including heated school boundary fights.

In Bill Wheaton's column yesterday, posted here, he claims the public sentiment is running 10 to 1 against the change. As I mentioned Thursday night, one cannot drive one mile on a major thoroughfare in the county without passing a church. If the churches were doing their job, a school board would not even consider enacting what they've done.

Thanks again for getting us organized and thanks to Rita Thompson and Mychele Brickner for standing up to a very powerful lobby.

46 posted on 07/27/2002 5:08:30 AM PDT by Ligeia
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To: BufordP
They've kicked over a hornet's nest! Letter to the Editor:

Give us more school choice

Andrei Blakely's July 16 article ``Gay Support Group Plans Book Drive" makes me hope even more that school choice becomes a reality in Virginia.

Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, or PFLAG, has decided (at whose behest?) to conduct a fund-raising campaign to purchase books dealing with homosexual themes to donate to the public schools in Fairfax County.

PFLAG claims this book drive will benefit harassed students and help teachers who are supposedly afraid of ``interfering" on behalf of harassed students.

Superintendent Daniel Domenech is reported as saying, ``There is no intention on the part of this administration to promote a gay and lesbian lifestyle. The intent is to promote a safe environment, free from harassment."

Has the school system done research and discovered that putting books in libraries deters harassment?

Teachers are already obligated to ``interfere" in order to help maintain the safe and orderly environments that the school system mandates. What about teachers who apparently are not ``interfering" when students are throwing food at other students? They should be more likely to lose their jobs for not ``interfering."

Such a ludicrous and convenient argument makes me question PFLAG's true intentions.

And what about the books? What about the thousands of homosexuals who have sought counseling to seek a heterosexual lifestyle? Is this faction accurately represented? I doubt it.

Rhonda Buckner, executive director of PFLAG's Washington-area office, reportedly claims, ``Lots of gays and lesbians need materials to work out feelings about their orientation."

Have ``lots" of students been harassed for this reason? Have ``lots" of teachers not ``interfered" on their behalf, or has the number been exaggerated to justify PFLAG's intrusion into our public schools?

It should not be the business of PFLAG to help students resolve their feelings. It's overstepping well-established boundaries that do not allow minor children to be unduly influenced by political groups.

I wonder if the liberal National Education Association stands behind such a strategy to advance the gay agenda.

The NEA has formed a task force to explore the issue of making schools more ``hospitable toward gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender students and staff." Perhaps book drives such as the one proposed by PFLAG is a strategy devised by this task force.

If the school system plans to allow sexually charged materials - whether heterosexual or homosexual - to be used to harm our children, then it is simply fueling those parents fighting for school choice.

Falls Church
47 posted on 07/27/2002 5:54:24 AM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia; BufordP; Betty Jane; vin-one; Angelwood; Jimmy Valentine's brother; scripter
"Rhonda Buckner, executive director of PFLAG's Washington-area office, reportedly claims, "Lots of gays and lesbians need materials to work out feelings about their orientation."

Yeah right, Rhonda. Tell us all about the books. No? Ok then, allow me:

Posted in Gay-books sale hits opposition:

"She emphasized that the books PFLAG expects to collect will help students adjust and adapt to their orientation. "We're certainly not going to put sexually explicit books in the schools," she said."

That's a lie. Both PFLAG and GLSEN recommend sexually explicit books for teens. Assemblyman Dennis Mountjoy (CA) has reviewed many of these recommended books and has stated:

"Believe me when I tell you that this material is grossly inappropriate to be used in our schools under the guise of "safety" or "diversity" training or anything else. In my view, the material is pornographic and obscene."

See the documentation posted in the thread:

Assemblyman MOUNTJOY opposes promotion of homosexuality in public schools

"Recommended Reading for Teenagers? A Closer Look at P-FLAG"

"The well-known and respected national organization "Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays" (P-FLAG) serves as a support group for parents seeking guidance for their homosexual children. P-FLAG is recommended as a resource group by the U.S. Department of Education and U.S. Department of Justice in its upcoming manual, "Preventing Youth Hate Crime." Many schools, community agencies, and even nationally syndicated newspaper columnists refer families to it. P-FLAG has affiliates in all 50 states, with about 70,000 families among its membership.

A look at some of P-FLAG's literature and recommended books, however, reveals an approach to child guidance which is consistently both sexually and socially radical. First-person stories aimed at teens tell in pornographic detail of the delight of a young girl's sexual seduction by her lesbian teacher; of gay relationships between teenage boys and much older men; and of the precise how-to's of masturbation. Teenagers are specifically encouraged to use only their feelings as a guide to sexual behavior; to be their own judge of what is right and wrong; and to "have fun" experimenting. If a sexual behavior feels good, the logic says, it will tell them "who they are." Teenagers are encouraged to see religious traditionalists as mean-spirited and hypocritical, while at the same time, to see gay consciousness as "sacred." Were similar books recommended by parenting groups for "straight" teenagers, they would be considered violations of community standards of decency..."

(PFLAG's recommended reading list can be found here).

GLSEN Encourages Teens In Anal SEX "Don't give up."

"...If this presents a realistic look into the life of a child struggling with same sex desires then these children are seduced/molested at an alarmingly high rate and engage in dangerous/abusive sexual activity at a very young age. What's worse is that the adults who purport to care most about them (the editor of this book for example) present this sexual abuse as if they were tender "coming of age" stories. As if the children struggling with same sex desires are showing how healthy they are by engaging in sex with adults and by having sexual encounters regularly beginning at a very young age.

And, the message is clear, if "straight" kids don't want to be closed-minded, if they want to be "open" and "free" they'll mimic the homosexual sexual behavior and promiscuity related in these books.

In several stories intense sexual activity as a child is presented as normal and healthy, even child/adult sex is presented without question. Five and six year old's who regularly engaged in sex are described as children "who were willing" to explore their sexuality "to it's fullest extent." Many stories fondly recount a youthful sexual encounter with a much older man or woman. Sexual promiscuity and engaging in sex as a child/teenager is presented as "sexual freedom".

Heterosexual or "questioning" youth are encouraged to try same sex intercourse because, the Kinseyin theory is repeated over and over, "Everyone's really gay or bisexual." and "You won't know if you like it until you try it."...

These books are in middle and high schools around the nation. Adults, real adults, have a responsibility to inform themselves about whats going on in public schools we fund. It is criminal to allow these people to educate our children on matters of sexuality!The children are depending on us to protect them. Please pass this information on to parents and other concerned adults..."

(You'll find the book mentioned on GLSEN's recommended reading list - Young, Gay and Proud! - here and other GLSEN recommended reading lists here).

Free smut for children

NJ High School Library Creates Homosexual Section

8 posted on 7/22/02 7:26 AM Pacific by EdReform

Well Rhonda Buckner, got anything to say?

48 posted on 07/27/2002 11:48:59 AM PDT by EdReform
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"I wonder if the liberal National Education Association stands behind such a strategy to advance the gay agenda."

Of course the NEA is behind it. And it's time to put an end to it:

Help Defund the NEA

Hatch Amendment Letter - Parental Consent Form for use in the Public Schools

49 posted on 07/27/2002 12:12:03 PM PDT by EdReform
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50 posted on 07/27/2002 9:30:39 PM PDT by EdReform
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51 posted on 07/28/2002 9:09:04 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: EdReform
Thank you for the links and your help!
52 posted on 07/28/2002 9:12:25 AM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia
You're welcome! Please pass this information on to family, friends, other parents and grandparents, etc.
53 posted on 07/28/2002 9:18:55 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: mhking
I know you like to keep up with conservative blacks standing tall and making a difference. I thought you might like to know that Rita Thompson, a heroine in this fight, is black.

Fathers invited to help children
Vaishali Honawar
Published 7/28/2002

     Fairfax County schools are calling on fathers to spend more time with their children to help them succeed in the classroom.
     When the school year begins in September, some of the county's public schools will introduce a fatherhood initiative that will encourage daddies to double up as their children's homework buddies and spend more quality time with them.
     "We are suggesting to dad that if you want to see an improvement in your child's school work, then turn off the TV and become a homework buddy," said school board member at-large Rita Thompson, who introduced the initiative.
     The Fairfax plan is inspired by a federal Department of Health and Human Services initiative to support and strengthen the roles of fathers in families, in step with President Bush's No Child Left Behind Act.
     According to the federal department, research indicates that the presence of committed, involved parents contributes directly to better school performance, reduced substance abuse, less crime and delinquency, fewer emotional and other behavioral problems, less risk of abuse or neglect, and lower risk of teen-age suicide.
     Three schools in Fairfax — one elementary, one middle school and one high school — will participate in the program this fall, said Elsie Kirton, director of guidance and student registration in the county's school system. "It will eventually be implemented systemwide," she said.
     Mrs. Thompson said the school system will apply for federal grants that support parental participation programs to pay for the initiative. She also will meet next week with some county fathers who, she said, are actively involved in their children's school lives, to gather ideas for the program.
     Schools that will implement the initiative this fall are Groveton Elementary and Holmes Middle School and West Springfield High School. Holmes Middle School already has a parental involvement program where staff from the schools visit children's homes every week to discuss their progress with parents.
     Schools in the county also organize such programs as "Muffins for Mom" or "Donuts for Dad," which encourage parental participation, Ms. Kirton said.
     Mrs. Thompson said that parents usually leave it up to schools to educate their children and feel powerless when they fail to do so. "Ideally, then, parents should be involved in their own children's lives," she said.
     But it is not all about work: even playing sports with your children can help, she said, adding that studies showed that children whose fathers played an active role in their lives got mostly A's at school. Administrators welcome the program because, they say, there is evidence that parental participation usually helps children do better at school.
     "I think anything we can do to get parents involved is good," said David Smith, principal of West Springfield High. He added that the school had good parental involvement but "more is better."
     The school system plans a workshop in August to discuss the best ways to fulfill the initiative.
      "There is a need that both parents serve as role models," Ms. Kirton said, "and being involved makes them more aware of what is happening at school."

54 posted on 07/29/2002 5:41:19 AM PDT by Ligeia
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To: EdReform
Parents need to be aware that many homosexuals are pedophiles.

Any exposure of children to homosexual behavior is child abuse.


55 posted on 07/29/2002 5:51:40 AM PDT by John O
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To: EdReform
Just another reminder of WHY, should I ever have children, I want them homeschooled. I'll be DAMNED before I send my kids to a public school, the way they are, now.
56 posted on 07/29/2002 6:08:08 AM PDT by Green Knight
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57 posted on 07/29/2002 8:23:45 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: Green Knight
Who am I to tell Christians to stop supporting government education?

58 posted on 07/29/2002 8:28:46 AM PDT by ppaul
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59 posted on 07/29/2002 9:34:51 PM PDT by EdReform
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Board Delays Vote, Seeks Legal Opinion

Jennifer Lesinski/The Connection
Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family Institute, based in Washington D.C., staged a rally Thursday before the Fairfax County School Board meeting opposing the proposal to add sexual orientation to the school system's nondiscrimination policy.

Jennifer Lesinski/The Connection
Supporters of the proposed change to add sexual orientation to the school system's nondiscrimination policy hold signs encouraging the School Board to vote yes.

Printable Version

July 31, 2002

The fate of the amendment to the Fairfax County Public Schools' nondiscrimination policy will rest in the opinion of one man instead of 12 elected School Board officials.

The School Board was bombarded with hundreds of e-mails over the past two weeks both for and against adding sexual orientation to the school system's nondiscrimination policy, which protects employees, students and applicants from discrimination on the grounds of such things as race, sex, age or religion. At the request of At-large School Board member Rita Thompson, chairman Stuart Gibson (Hunter Mill) pulled the proposed amendment off the table Thursday, July 25, to seek an opinion from Attorney General Jerry Kilgore (R).

"About two weeks ago, questions were raised as to whether the board had the authority to enact this rule," Gibson said, citing the Dillon rule, which limits local jurisdictions' ability to enact legislation without prior approval of the General Assembly.

Gibson said there was only two ways the board could seek a legal opinion from Kilgore, the first was to go through the Commonwealth Attorney and the other was at the request of a General Assembly member. Del. Vincent Callahan (R-34) has agreed to make the request on behalf of the School Board, Gibson said.

Prior to deciding to seek Kilgore's opinion, the School Board sought and received an opinion from its own legal counsel. Gibson, citing confidentiality, declined to say what the board's attorney had concluded regarding the amendment.

THE MOVE TO PULL the amendment was met with little resistance from the other board members. Only At-large member Robert Frye, the originator of the proposal, criticized Gibson's decision.

"I object to the removal of the proposal. This was not a decision made by the board. It was a decision of the chair," Frye said. "This proposal is very basic. It is one about treating everyone fairly."

Frye said his experiences with racial discrimination have confirmed his commitment to eliminating all forms of discrimination.

"I remember as little boy, as a second-class citizen, visiting a separate-but-equal Washington D.C. and visiting the Jefferson Memorial. On the wall were the words, 'All men are created equal.' They are only a few little words, but they gave me hope," Frye said. "In making this proposal of just two words, we give hope to those in Fairfax County."

Kaye Kory (Mason), while not criticizing Gibson's decision, apologized to the audience, saying the board should have asked for the Attorney General's opinion beforehand.

Thompson and fellow at-large member Mychele Brickner said they supported Gibson in seeking the legal opinion.

"If it wasn't done now, it would have been done later by someone else," Thompson said.

THE FEAR OF A LAWSUIT prompted Gibson's decision.

"If we do something and we didn't have the power to do this and we get sued, what have we accomplished?" Gibson said. "Fact of the matter is, [the authority to enact the change] wasn't first raised until two weeks ago."

The amendment has recently generated reaction from the community even though supporters of the measure have been requesting the change for nearly a year.

Thursday night, more than 350 people packed the auditorium at Luther Jackson Middle School, where the School Board holds its meetings.

Beforehand, the Concerned Women for America's Culture and Family Institute, based in Washington D.C., staged a rally in front of the school building opposing the amendment. Supporters of the amendment moved inside the auditorium when the rally began. Several officers were dispatched because of the size of the crowd; there were no reported incidents.

Inside, the board heard from people, including teachers and parents, on both sides of the issue.

"Why would a School Board adopt a policy that opens the door to destructive influences on vulnerable, impressionable children? Because that's what adding sexual orientation will do," said Julia Flanagan, a Springfield resident who said she was “ex-gay.”

"It will open the door wide to adults, who will mislead children into thinking that the profound needs they feel for acceptance and nurturing are really a sexual identity they were born with, making it even harder for children to find the truth," Flanagan said.

Regina Griggs, executive director of Parents and Friends of Ex-Gays and Gays (PFOX), and mother of a gay son, said PFOX opposes the amendment because it opens the door for the harassment of ex-gays. She said studies show people are not born gay and no one is telling the children the truth about how they can change. PFOX also objects to the fact that the school system permits books in the libraries that she says promote what she called the “gay lifestyle,” but will not allow ex-gay materials.

"They say they want all people to be protected, but to the exclusion of ex-gays. They don't even want us to have a voice," Griggs, a resident of Mount Vernon, said. "All children should be free and protected. Sexuality is not a part of who you are. It's who you are attracted to. It's demeaning to gay people."

OTHERS SEE IT differently. Sandburg Middle School teacher Vincent Worthington told the School Board the policy change is needed.

"For whatever reason several students, mostly in my seventh-grade Spanish immersion course, came to the conclusion that I was gay and by early spring had begun a systematic personal attack upon me in the classroom, finding opportunities to say or write words such as queer, fag, homo, openly questioning my sexuality and making vulgar references to sexual acts," Worthington said.

Worthington said he tried sending the students to "time-out," but the attacks continued and became worse as more students joined in.

"I consulted with my department chair and began to write-up referrals instead of or in addition to time outs. Though administrators were aware of these problems, I felt like nothing was being done to alleviate this toxic atmosphere that was increasingly taking over my fifth period," Worthington said. "Needless to say, this situation caused me much stress, concern, frustration and rage. I do not ever want to be in a similar situation again and I do not think any teacher, staff member or student should have to function in such a hateful environment."

Robert Rigby, a Hayfield Secondary special education teacher and co-chair of the local Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network chapter, is confident the Attorney General will rule the School Board does have the power to enact the policy change.

"Given the research I did, I expect the Attorney General will say the School Board does have the authority to do this," Rigby said. "The School Board has the right to pass personnel policy."

Locally, the school boards for the City of Alexandria and Arlington County have already added sexual orientation to their policies and have yet to face a legal challenge nor did either jurisdiction seek authority from the General Assembly. The City of Alexandria changed its nondiscrimination policy in 2000 and recently amended it anti-harassment policy, said Rosemarie Webb, clerk of its school board. The Fairfax County School Board added sexual orientation to the anti-harassment policy, spelled out in the Student Rights and Responsibilities Handbook, last year.

Adrienne Carver, spokeswoman for Arlington County Public Schools, said the school board there added sexual orientation to its nondiscrimination policy in 1995.

In addition, Fairfax County added sexual orientation to its Standards of Conduct in 2000, said Merni Fitzgerald, the county's public affairs director.


They sure did crop the picture to make sure no one saw anyone but supporters of the change. The photo in the print version is much larger and is a more accurate depiction of the crowd.

60 posted on 08/01/2002 10:54:46 AM PDT by Ligeia
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