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WHAT'S THE WORST CAR OF THE MILLENIUM
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Posted on 07/29/2002 10:41:16 PM PDT by doug from upland

CLICK HERE FOR ENTIRE ARTICLE AND ALL 10 OF THE DISHONORED PIECES OF JUNK

No. 10 - VW Bus

"If everyone had to own one of these as a first car as I did, there would be no traffic jams anywhere. At least half of us would be so turned off by the experience of owning a car, that we would seek alternate means of transportation."

"There was no heat--unless, that is, the auxiliary gas heater caught fire."

"The flower stickers were the only things that held the car together."

"The bus had no heat, blew over in the wind and used the driver's legs as its first line of defense in an accident."

"It was a death trap on the highway-you could never go fast enough. The chances were good that you'd be hit from the rear."

No. 9 - Renault Dauphine

"Truly unencumbered by the engineering process."

"At the time, it cost about half the price of a Volkswagen... which was half the price of everything else. How could Renault do this? Simple. It had half as many parts."

"This car topped out at 45 mph. Since the minimum speed on the Florida Turnpike is 40, patrol cars would follow me, waiting for me to hit a hill so they could ticket me."

"From a historical perspective, it's a shame that the French spent their Marshall Plan dollars on automaking."

"A side impact by a bicycle totaled my Dauphine after only one year."

No. 8 - Cadillac Cimarron

"GM thought they could take a Chevy Cavalier, slap some Cadillac stuff on it, add an extra $5,000.00 and sell a bundle. Tragically enough, they pulled it off-for a while."

"Hands down, worst car for the money spent. Yugos were junk, but at least they were cheap. This heap had a Caddy price tag!"

"A stupid marketing ploy. Nothing more than a Chevrolet Cavalier, which Roger Smith gussied up and called a Cadillac."

"When we traded it in my wife was upset because we didn't keep it long enough for her to buy a gun and shoot it."

No. 7 - Dodge Aspen/Plymouth Volare

"This car began to rust while it was still in the showroom."

"The stalling problem was so bad that I had to take a clockwise route to work so I could make all right turns, and not risk stalling on a left turn in front of oncoming traffic."

"After the floor boards rusted out in the rear, they would fill up with water and freeze. I ended up putting soda crates on the floor in the back to keep people from falling under the car."

"The only useful purpose this car served was as the model for the car used in National Lampoon's Vacation."

"Owning a Volare was total ego death--the theme song, the vinyl Landau roof, the inability to pass another car on the highway."

Nol 6 - Renault Le Car

"I'm convinced that the body metal for this car was supplied by Reynold's Aluminum."

"Like any French restaurant in America, it was overpriced, noisy, moody, and would put you in mortal danger if you had an accident with anything larger than a croissant."

"Our Le Car couldn't climb a hill fully loaded, so the passengers had to get out and walk up."

"I left it unlocked overnight, and it was finally stolen. The insurance check paid for a textbook."


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1 posted on 07/29/2002 10:41:16 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
WHAT'S THE WORST CAR OF THE MILLENIUM?

Whatever car I happen to be driving.

2 posted on 07/29/2002 10:42:57 PM PDT by Black Powder
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To: doug from upland
My Mother the Car....
3 posted on 07/29/2002 10:43:14 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: doug from upland
No. 9 - Renault Dauphine

I know someone who has a Dauphine that was converted to an electric car. Still not quite sure why...

4 posted on 07/29/2002 10:44:11 PM PDT by supercat
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To: doug from upland
The aforementioned Yugo. It may have been cheap but it was so for good reason.
5 posted on 07/29/2002 10:52:02 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: doug from upland
"HI! I'm socal_parrot and I owned a '74 Chevy Vega."

"Hi parrot!"

The first step to recovery is admitting you need help.

I got better. My next car was a '78 Trans Am.
6 posted on 07/29/2002 10:52:24 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: doug from upland
I had a Dodge Aspen (Volare). And yes, the article describes it exactly. Every time it rained, it stalled. It was scary to drive. I owned it 10 years, out of which 6 it didn't work at all. But I always thought it was pretty. Of course, a car that is pretty doesn't do you any good if it doesn't get you anywhere....
7 posted on 07/29/2002 10:58:43 PM PDT by I still care
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To: blackbart.223
From the article, a Yugo comment:

"I once test drove a Yugo, during which the radio fell out, the gear shift knob came off in my hand, and I saw daylight through the strip around the windshield."

8 posted on 07/29/2002 10:59:02 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: socal_parrot
Two of the Vega comments:

"As near as I could tell, the car was built from compressed rust.

"My Chevy Vega actually broke in half going over railroad tracks. The whole rear end came around slightly to the front, sort of like a dog wagging its tail."

9 posted on 07/29/2002 11:02:14 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
I feel that the amount of motor oil I put in my Vega directly led to the build up of the Iraqi army in the 70's.
10 posted on 07/29/2002 11:06:25 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: doug from upland
By the way, I also built the Cadillac Cimmaron at South Gate, CA in the early 80's and my sister owned a Chevette. I really suck!
11 posted on 07/29/2002 11:08:38 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: socal_parrot
I had a Vega for a short time. Yes, you should be ashamed for the Chevette. :)
12 posted on 07/29/2002 11:10:43 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
#10- VW Bus...

But, have you seen the new concept VW Microbus? Due for production and market release in 2005. Here it is:

VW, making a comeback...

14 posted on 07/29/2002 11:15:00 PM PDT by jumpstartme
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To: socal_parrot
Chevette: "An engine surrounded by 4 pieces of drywall!"
15 posted on 07/29/2002 11:15:13 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
What, no Trabant?
16 posted on 07/29/2002 11:15:24 PM PDT by gracie1
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To: doug from upland
I once went on a tow call to an accident in town, neither vehicle was going over 20, a le car was T-boned by a 67 Ford Pickup, the right door of the le car was pushed almost to the center of the car, the pick up had some damage but drove away.
17 posted on 07/29/2002 11:16:53 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: doug from upland
The worst car I ever saw (a good friend had one) was the AMC Pacer...half the car was a glass bubble-like windshield (strange)...and the other half was doors...those doors were so big, the law of gravity assured that they would tend to fall off. The thing ran pretty good, but the body was a disaster waiting to happen.

18 posted on 07/29/2002 11:18:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: doug from upland
I had a Jeep CJ in which I installed 4 rear axles. One broke and I had it done at the dealership. I found that too expensive so the next time it broke I installed it myself. When that one broke I thought I had done something wrong so I had it done at the dealership. The next one I installed myself just to get it in good enough shape to sell.

I also had a Dodge K-Car. When the stop light turned green I stepped on the accelerator. The front bolts holding the seat in place broke. I found myself in the back seat going through a busy intersection. I ended up putting a Domino's Pizza dough tray in the back seat propped up against the head rest to hold it up. If someone had hit me in the rear it would have taken my head off. I guess I can't complain too much. The block cracked so I JB welded it and drove it for close to 50,000 miles. I'm not so sure if thats due to the quality of the K-Car or the quality of a healthy dollop of JB Weld.
19 posted on 07/29/2002 11:18:34 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: socal_parrot
I feel that the amount of motor oil I put in my Vega directly led to the build up of the Iraqi army in the 70's.

LOL.
20 posted on 07/29/2002 11:19:46 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: doug from upland
The AMC Gremlin, was particularly nasty, though I did like the logo of the gremlin. I can't get in the older generations to admit they drove one.
21 posted on 07/29/2002 11:20:25 PM PDT by mlibertarianj
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To: doug from upland
I forget which car it was, I think a Monza or something, where you had to take out the engine to change the spark plugs or change the oil filter.
22 posted on 07/29/2002 11:21:14 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
Sure, you think it's funny, I have to live with the guilt.
23 posted on 07/29/2002 11:22:09 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: EternalVigilance
The worst car I ever saw (a good friend had one) was the AMC Pacer...half the car was a glass bubble-like windshield (strange)...and the other half was doors...those doors were so big, the law of gravity assured that they would tend to fall off. The thing ran pretty good, but the body was a disaster waiting to happen.

I still love the Pacer. My brother had one and it was a comfortable car. I had an opportunity to buy one a few years ago that still had the sticker in the window and the original plastic bags over the seat. A 20 year old car with 46 miles on it. Wish I had. They had a little doughnut gasket that you COULD NOT keep replaced causing it to drool oil. But other than that the one we had was a peach.
24 posted on 07/29/2002 11:26:21 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
God, I forgot about the Monza. I saw the name and just started to laugh.


25 posted on 07/29/2002 11:26:33 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: doug from upland
No 6 - Renault Le Car

As you can see, the Le Car had the words "Le Car" printed across the bottom of the door. The late Herb Caen, columnist of the SF Chron, was once told by a dissatisfied Le Car owner that he was going to replace the letters "Car" with "Mon," so that it would read "Le Mon!"

My vote goes to the Ford Escort of the early 80's. Ford had commercials year after year touting the Escort as the best selling car in America.

Seen any on the road lately?

26 posted on 07/29/2002 11:27:32 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: doug from upland
Didn't "Clinton's War" result in our bombing of the Yugo factory?
27 posted on 07/29/2002 11:27:33 PM PDT by weegee
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To: Arkinsaw
I had a Monza. Mine was recalled for faulty motor mounts. I sold it a week later. It took years for Chevy to get me to buy another product from them.
28 posted on 07/29/2002 11:27:50 PM PDT by jumpstartme
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To: EternalVigilance
The original AMC Cherokee was a disaster. A total piece of crap. It literally fell apart over the 8 month period that I owned it. It spent more time on blocks than it did being driven. I gave up on it after less than a year.

I never bought another American made car until just recently.

29 posted on 07/29/2002 11:30:21 PM PDT by zarf
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To: doug from upland
Ah the Chevette...
I've heard tell that the echo of the "Donny and Marie Osmond" commercials resonate from the car....
Chevette owners are litterly Driven insane!
30 posted on 07/29/2002 11:32:27 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: EternalVigilance
The worst car I ever saw (a good friend had one) was the AMC Pacer...half the car was a glass bubble-like windshield (strange)...and the other half was doors...those doors were so big, the law of gravity assured that they would tend to fall off. The thing ran pretty good, but the body was a disaster waiting to happen.

I still remember the TV commercials for the Pacer, describing the increased visibility of its wrap-around windows and extra space in the rear. It looked like a Gremlin after someone pumped helium into it. Whenever I drive behind one today, it reminds me of being on a crowded beach with a fat woman in a halter top in front of me.

32 posted on 07/29/2002 11:35:05 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: L.N. Smithee
I own a Ford Escort ZX2 w/5 speed on the floor. It's got lots of pep to spare on the interstate.and it's been a pleasure to drive. Built pretty solid for a car so affordable. A far cry from the old pieces of crap they used to make.

It's been a pleasent surprise from the get go.

33 posted on 07/29/2002 11:35:18 PM PDT by zarf
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To: doug from upland
My dad read this article and bent my ear about how much he loved the VW buses. He had one of the first in this country, which he'd picked up in Germany. He describes how going over the hilly country from New York to Pittsburgh he had to floor it down the hills in order to get nough speed to make it up the next hill.

He also tells of driving it to the Plaza Hotel for a white-tie and tails reception. The valets had never come across a shift pattern like it and took five minutes to get it in gear.

I've got my own fond memories of VW buses, but not all of them are for public consumption.

There are still a lot of them on the road.

34 posted on 07/29/2002 11:37:56 PM PDT by Looking for Diogenes
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To: doug from upland
I also had a Chrysler Laser, their first attempt at a turbo engine. It spent more time in the shop than on the road, three turbos in four years. I learned to drive on a Corvair Spider, a car that had a much undeserved bad rap.
35 posted on 07/29/2002 11:38:20 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: doug from upland; *Auto Shop; wallcrawlr; Texaggie79; sheik yerbouty; EBUCK; monkeyshine; ...
BeePing! : )

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36 posted on 07/29/2002 11:42:15 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: doug from upland
No. 9 - Renault Dauphine

Au contraire - My wife-to-be got one as a graduation present from college. We were driving in north Nevada when she lost control of the car coming out of a cut when caught by a wind gust. We were going at 60+ mi/hr, and the car went end over end three times down the highway. The car was not totaled. We weren't wearing seat belts, and the only injury that resulted was a broken bone in my wife's foot.
When we poped out the car, the truck driver behind us stopped and behaved as though he was seeing gosts.

It was a bit slow going up a hill, but we could often pass cars on the way down that passed us on the way up.

The worst car we ever had was a 1973 Toyota Carina. It may have been the only model of Toyota that was given the "Do not buy this car" award by Consumer Reports.

37 posted on 07/29/2002 11:44:37 PM PDT by rightofrush
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Two tone (red and white) AMC Pacer. It burst into flames while sitting at a stop light. Was I ever thankful!!! LOL
38 posted on 07/29/2002 11:47:44 PM PDT by Whey
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To: doug from upland
My all time worst car was a VW Karman Ghia. Dreadful car. Couldn't wait to get rid of it.

Bought a '73 Datsun 240Z. A terrific car, great to drive, easy to tune up and light enough that I can push it on a flat street IF it konks out. Still have it, stored in a heated garage.

If that car was a man, I'd marry it.

39 posted on 07/30/2002 12:01:38 AM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: socal_parrot

The first Chevy Monza (the 2+2) introduced rectangular headlights to North America. I thought it was the coolest looking car in the world.

40 posted on 07/30/2002 12:05:10 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: doug from upland
One of those old MARTINA NAVRATHEVOLVOS!
41 posted on 07/30/2002 12:09:27 AM PDT by rockfish59
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To: c-b 1
I once went on a tow call to an accident in town, neither vehicle was going over 20, a le car was T-boned by a 67 Ford Pickup, the right door of the le car was pushed almost to the center of the car, the pick up had some damage but drove away.

That doesn't sound like a "T-bone" -- more like the dot on an "i."

42 posted on 07/30/2002 12:12:37 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: doug from upland
One of the better ones!
43 posted on 07/30/2002 12:18:54 AM PDT by rockfish59
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To: socal_parrot
Looks like a Pinto with a makeover
44 posted on 07/30/2002 12:24:09 AM PDT by Uni-Poster
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To: doug from upland
I don't know about the worst yet, but the ugliest 'thing' in the new millenium so far is the Pontiac Aztec. Hideously fugly!!
45 posted on 07/30/2002 12:28:05 AM PDT by Looking4Truth
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To: socal_parrot
I learned to drive on a Corvair Spider, a car that had a much undeserved bad rap.

You're absolutely right. It felt so solid and low to the ground people tried to drive it as if it was a sports car, which it wasn't. That's why they turned over. People were pretending they were driving Porsches. It also had terrific traction in snow (you didn't snow tires, let alone chains). There were no transmission humps. The foot room was great. On the bad side, it leaked oil. The rear grill was always getting knocked off. The fan belt kept coming off (it operated in two planes at right angles to each other). And the early models had gas heaters.

46 posted on 07/30/2002 12:29:20 AM PDT by DentsRun
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To: doug from upland
The worst car of the millenium? heheheheheheh....

In no particular order of disdain, these are the cars that will withstand the detest of time:

LeCar (Renault) - Le crapola.

The Thing (Volkswagen) - What was left after an artillery shell ripped the top off a wanna-be armoured gun vehicle.

Corvair (Chevrolet) - Nader, Schmader: this car wasn't the death trap he called it, but it was a piece of garbage regardless. My mother was fool enough to buy the '61 Corvair station wagon and all she got was soot across the tailgate.

Gremlin (AMC) - Should be self-explanatory.

1960-62 Lancer (Dodge) - What its sister car, the Plymouth Valiant, resembled after surviving an acid fight between rival gangs.

Those butt-ugly 1950s "business coupes" - You know the ones: two doors, two-seat capacity, slightly elongated rear ends, tiny round roof covering only the doors. Dishonourable mention: The Plymouth, Dodge, and DeSoto models. (Go to your DeSoto-Plymouth dealer but don't you dare tell 'em Groucho sent you...)

1948 Hudson - It had to be seen to be disbelieved. Still does.

That pathetic joke of a 1986 Lincoln Town Car that some nimrod in Yuba City, California mounted on a monster truck chassis in 1992-98 - As God is my witness, I am not making this up: the car did (does, for all I know) exist. A laugh and a half the first time; grounds for defamation of character (Lincoln's, that is) the second time around.

Early 1970s Matador fastback (AMC) - Looked like the child conceived within a 1960s Ford Torino after being raped by an Edsel. Rode like a kid's go-kart with no two wheels the same size.

Zil - The official car of the Soviet Politburo apparatchiks. Almost as ugly as their politics.

Lincoln Versailles - A Ford Grenada trying to be what the Chevrolet Cavalier thought it was being as a Cadillac Cimarron. And about as useless in the doing, too.

1960-63 Ford Falcon - I couldn't possibly top the description offered by a Ford engineer as quoted in Collier-Horowitz's historiography of the Ford family: "(Robert) McNamara wears granny glasses and he brings out a granny car." (McNamara was running the show at Ford and the Falcon was his pet car. It was also the anticipatory proof that what would come to be politically correct cars were usually long on gas mileague and short on anything else that made a car attractive to drive, ride, or see.) Trouble was, Granny could outrun the Falcon...with her walker!

Yugo - If only for making Le Car look stylish.

....just for openers...
47 posted on 07/30/2002 12:44:17 AM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: Looking4Truth
I don't know about the worst yet, but the ugliest 'thing' in the new millenium so far is the Pontiac Aztec.

That crate looks like a Ford Focus fathered a child with the old VW Thing and the child survived the mother's abortion attempt.
48 posted on 07/30/2002 12:50:08 AM PDT by BluesDuke
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To: mlibertarianj
The AMC Gremlin, was particularly nasty, though I did like the logo of the gremlin. I can't get in the older generations to admit they drove one.

I'll admit it I drove one.

I bought it used for $1000. Over the next 18 months it was hit by drunk drivers 3 times. All while parked. Insurance company paid off as totaled all three times and then sold it back to for $100. Boy, I loved that car.

49 posted on 07/30/2002 12:50:44 AM PDT by vikzilla
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To: vikzilla
Over the next 18 months it was hit by drunk drivers 3 times. All while parked.

I have heard that that was precisely how the drunk (had to be!) design engineers who designed (if that is the word) the Gremlin got the car to take that rear end shape in the first place!
50 posted on 07/30/2002 12:54:49 AM PDT by BluesDuke
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