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To: demlosers
These troops?

LOL, I was just looking for a good pic of the M-240b (I want one!) and found this instead. One of the reasons I hated being in the Army was that firearm safety was a joke.

6 posted on 08/04/2002 11:45:07 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Who are those morons?
9 posted on 08/04/2002 11:46:38 AM PDT by LibKill
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To: LibWhacker

Well, boys will be boys....
11 posted on 08/04/2002 11:49:00 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: LibWhacker
That makes me think about something else with the 9MM. We were sitting around in our tent in Bosnia one winter evening and had nothing better to do so we practiced "drawing at close range vs drawn upon person taking the weapon away" (unloaded of course). All you have to do to keep the 9mm from firing is put the palm of your hand against the barrel and push. As long as you can keep pressure against it, the guy with the 9mm can't shoot you. We both (the guy I was practicing with) got it to where we could manage 9 times out of 10 to get our hand on the barrel (disabling it) before the shooter could pull the trigger- you had to be really quick and not half assed about it, but once you got your hand on the end of the barrel you could then turn the weapon away from yourself and deliver a blow to the face with the other hand. What we found when we practiced this manuever later with soldiers who had no clue what we were going to do was they were so stunned that they couldn't pull the trigger they failed to block the overhand right to the nose when it came.

I'm not a big handgun expert, so I don't know if other automatics are the same way. I found it disturbing in a way to know that the weapon was that easily disabled. We had another SGT who could do the same thing but actually was pretty good at taking the slide off the top of the weapon as well. He could do this in like one second and leave you holding only half your weapon- it was a funny trick but I didn't think I'd have tried that one. Personally, I'd want a handgun that fired even if it was totally jammed into someone's belly (like they were laying on top of me with all their weight). I've never figured out why they can't just make a revolver type handgun with a larger cylinder or maybe with two cylinders so that you could quickly swivel a full one up into place when the top one was empty- that'd give you ten to twelve shots with a low malfunction risk. I'm no expert or nothing- I'm sure one of you handgun nuts will tell me it's a hokey idea ;-)

26 posted on 08/04/2002 12:53:13 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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