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To: nickcarraway
1) I'm sorry that many people feel the only legitimate excuse to attack the ACLU-worldview is by the liberal/enlightenment tactic of crying "bigotry."

2) The First Amendment applies only to Congress. It has no authority over state governments, school boards, football game pre-game activities, or whether or not your Mama may wash your mouth out with soap for saying the "f"-word.

2) The "Bill of Rights" was a mistake anyway. It began in hypocrisy (to restrict the federal government with interfering with slavery) and has transmogrified into a positive guarantee of rights that supposedly gives the Federal Government the authority to outlaw all the above activities.

3) Regarless of what Jefferson meant, he was an enlightenment deist, as were most of the Founders. Ultimately G-d is a greater authority than any human document and it is unnecessary to appeal to human authority for the "right" to obey G-d.

23 posted on 08/05/2002 7:36:29 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Zionist Conspirator
While I agree with your point of view on this issue (read my post 20 I think it is), I want to bring up something about this point:

"2) The First Amendment applies only to Congress. It has no authority over state governments, school boards, football game pre-game activities, or whether or not your Mama may wash your mouth out with soap for saying the "f"-word."

You are correct that the First Amendment was intended to apply to the federal govt. However, some would argue the 14th Amendment expaned this to the states. You need to be able to refute these people because they are the majority today. I know of one case that was decided after the 14th Amendment that didn't torture its intent (I have it in my post number 20). But, it is difficult to find enough stuff to overturn such people's arguments since everyone....even many conservatives, unfortunately agree that the 14th Amendment made the bill of rights apply to the states.

26 posted on 08/05/2002 7:45:37 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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