Posted on 08/08/2002 11:44:23 AM PDT by american colleen
Yes! I followed that thread on the "bulleting" board over there - I could never figure out how to post, so, although I'm registered, I did not join in. I think a couple of the blogspots have pretty good takes on those exchanges - David Alexander and Manintheblackhat, are two of them.
Isn't it odd that they didn't receive the invitations? That dang post office!
I'm so glad the truth is coming out about VOTF from an alternative source. I am going to send Howie Carr, Jay Severin, Marjorie Eagan and David Brudnoy a copy of this letter. Give them something to chew on. I have heard Thomas Groome on David Brudnoy, and although he is a professor at BC, surprisingly, I think he hates the Catholic Church.
Leonard Swidler, professor of Catholic thought at Temple University. Well-known for his work in the formation of a "global ethic" with dissenting theologian Hans Kung
Shouldn't that read Swindler?
SIECUS promotes guidelines for sex education for children grades K-12, guidelines which approve of children ages 5-8 being taught that masturbation and homosexuality are acceptable practices.
Should be renamed SICKNESS to suit the program's objectives.
VOTF just announced that it's starting an additional fund-raiser in order to keep its own operation running, to the tune of $1 million
I hope the media gets this message out to the public!
I think that is up to us. VOTF was started in a very wealthy community and its founders are well known, media connected people.
The way VOTF's site reads, you have to read between the lines and be a skeptic at heart to realize that they just ain't kosher, so to speak.
I'm afraid in this case, the "weird, perverted and demented" started the group, so what can you expect?
This should have been a red flag.
To many of us in Massachusetts, it was! (But you seem to be in Chicago -- How did you know?)
The problem with this is that it's been invented already. We've had 500 years (plus or minus) to learn about its good and bad points. Anyone who wants to pursue a Protestant Christian way of relating to our Lord and His Church has an abundance of opportunities.
In my very, very humble opinion, these Roman Catholic "protestants" want to retain the powerful features of their Church, but want them to be used to mandate alternative theology, rather than the theology of the Pope and the bishops. This is fundamentally dishonest.
It's not new to have a conscience. It's not new to discover the Bible. It's not new that bishops can be wrong, even evil criminals. It's most certainly not new that a faithful walk with Christ can involve turning your back on powers and principalities.
Why not go all the way, and become Protestants?
I married into an RC family, so I consider myself sort of a fellow traveler.
I don't think liberal Catholics get off on the idea of the money. But I do think that the Church represents power to them, power in an almost pre-Oedipal way. They can't imagine another way of churching (that's why so many of them refer to "The Protestant Church", as if it had an address and a phone number).
They want that power for themselves, so they can say, "bad is good", an be believed.
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