Propaganda: Nobody Does It Better Than America.

Texas Mercury ^ | Paul Weber

[mercy]

I think you fail, as does GWB, to understand the situation. The true left is at most 20% of our population. Eff em! Joe Sixpack may be a third generation union man who votes democratic and can pull the left lever in his sleep but he wants to nuke Mecca and waste sadam as much as I do. Maybe more.

There IS no shadowy gubmint propaganda organ churning out manufactured public opinion on this one. You don't believe me? .... Conduct your own poll. Ask everybody you meet what we should do about terrorists. You'll see.

[mercy]

Guileless???

I think that Apostle guy was the last one of those.

[mercy]

I notice you clip a lot of articles concerning the Balkans.

You may have a good reason for being pissed off at the US.

Of late we have lost our footing a bit and 'gone off center'. We had a corrupt leader that was willing to lob cruise missles willy nilly to hide a blow job. The American people thought we were helping an opressed underdog people in the Balkans.

We should have kept our nose out of that one and we are indeed guilty. I suppose we can tell ourselves that we lessened the bloodshed but we've probably only postponed it.

Sorry. Really.

[gugen]

I think I'll add here, though, that the purpose of propaganda like this piece is not so much to whip people into an emotional frenzy, but to make it very tedious to go through it and refute every point that needs refuting. Since the process of refutation is so tiresome, few people who recognize the untruths bother... and the people who don't have all the facts end up believing the propaganda.

Well said! I fit into the category of one of the "few who recognize the untruths" that doesn't bother to go about refuting the bits that are ridiculous. Sean

[gcruse]

 "You're perfectly free to do whatever you
want, so long as what you want to do is what I want you to do."

Americans are free as long as we don't act like it.
 

[enrg]

There IS no shadowy gubmint propaganda organ churning out manufactured public opinion on this one. You don't believe me?

I do believe you. I never said there was. All I was stating was that GWB MAY need to sway the left (as impossible as it may seem) or to atleast silence them as much as possible. As for nuking Mecca and wasting Saddam, I like that idea. But i'd like to know before hand what happens next.

[enrg]

You may have a good reason for being pissed off at the US.

I'm not pissed at the US. More dissapointed actually. And it's not just the US BTW.

Of late we have lost our footing a bit and 'gone off center'. We had a corrupt leader that was willing to lob cruise missles willy nilly to hide a blow job. The American people thought we were helping an opressed underdog people in the Balkans.

Well, I acknowledge that this was all prior to September 11. I'm going to wait and see what gets done now, after everyone has seen who the real enemy is.

Sorry. Really.

No need to apologise. You didn't do it yourself, and couldn't do anything to change it.

[tet68]

History run through a mangle.
Haven't laughed so much in years.

[enrg]

Sleeper...

You talkin about me? If so, please explain the accusation.

[nopardons]

It wasn't only the misspellings, which gave you away. I am the QUEEN of typos, and usually ignore others' . You just don't " sound " as though English is your mother tonge.

The article is a pastiche of rather uncommon things, cobbled together, to prove that they ado indeed have a commonality. You didn't understand it, as well as you imagine you did. This article IS base propaganda !

Well, all I can tell you, is that most people DO know the history of " the twisted cross " ; at least in the USA and probably in England and in India.

[nopardons]

Probably.

[nopardons]

I was being polite. LOL

[foreverfree]

bump

[enrg]

You didn't understand it, as well as you imagine you did

What exactly didn't I see? Where did I say the article was totally correct? S--t!!! where did I even agree with the author? ALL I ever said was "the article is good on explaining the USE of propaganda". By USE I mean what can be achieved by using it effectively.

This article IS base propaganda !

Where did I say that it wasn't?

Well, all I can tell you, is that most people DO know the history of " the twisted cross " ; at least in the USA and probably in England and in India.

Fair Enough. I'm not from the USA, England or India.

[F16Fighter]

"The REAL masters of propaganda are liberal democrats and the mainstream media. They make Hitler look like an amateur."

LOL -- true, true.

[enrg]

Probably.

ARRGHHH!!! I'm getting sick of this!!!! Why am I a sleeper? What do you base this on? I'm really get sick and tired of people making accusations based on half-arsed assumptions.

[enrg]

get = getting

Just for you nopardons

[NormsRevenge]

This American expatriate, with the memorable name of Ernst "Putzi" Hanfstängl, told the Führer how Americans could be whipped up into a frenzy through blaring music, group cheers, and chants against the enemy. Hitler, genius of evil as he was, immediately saw the value in this form of propaganda and incorporated it into his own rise to power.

"Putzi" never met Bud Selig, unfortunately.. But it sounds like Pete Rozelle went to his Untermensch Summer Camp as a kid.

[dighton]

Haven't laughed so much in years.

Don't do that, it really annoys them. You never know what they might do.

;-)

[nopardons]

I know that you're new here, English isn't your mother tongue ( now that that is know, just stop worrying about it ); however, when one posts a thread, it is customary, when one doesn't agree with with part / all of it,m to say so. That way, no one will suspect you, as several have, of having had a certain reason / agenda, for posting it.

Look, no one has flamed nor insulted you ; yet, you are upset by the replies. If you are having difficulty with civil and polite discourse, you are going to be even MORE upset, should you keep posting here. Do calm down, learn the ropes BEFORE you make any more mistakes, and then, post to your heart's content. :-)