Massillon officer, suspect killed in chase, shootout

The Canton Repository (OHIO) ^ | Saturday, August 10, 2002 | LORI MONSEWICZ and ROBERT WANG Repository staff writers

[sinkspur]

I know that each of the (few) times I've ever been pulled over, one of the first things that comes to mind to say to the cop is "there are people being robbed, raped and murdered around here (and in my area that's very true), don't you have anything better to do?"

If you're speeding, or driving drunk, his answer would be "no."

[Joe Hadenuf]

Well, since you asked, this individual that killed the police officer was pulled over for a moving violation, approximately doing 72 in a 65 mph zone, and not wearing a seat belt. This is what the other article stated.

My comment was that while our law enforcement is busy enforcing minor traffice laws, like not using turn signals, and seat belt violations, our entire nation is being invaded by millions upon millions of illegal aliens, while our so-called leaders look the other way and stand treasonously silent or actually encourage this titanic invasion.

I find this extremely disturbing. And yes our traffic laws need to be enforced, but one day, we should get our priorities fixed.

The individual that killed the police officer got what he deserved, unfortunately not before he apparently murdered the police officer.

[Larry Lucido]

A Makarov?

I got to shoot one of those in Kazahkstan. Seemed to handle quite well.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Get a grip dirt boy. This forum is for comments of all kinds. If the AM don't like it, or feels it's totally uncalled for he will delete it...Don't be so dang thin skinned.....

[sinkspur]

Well, since you asked, this individual that killed the police officer was pulled over for a moving violation, approximately doing 72 in a 65 mph zone, and not wearing a seat belt. This is what the other article stated.

"72 in a 60 mph zone" Joe.

The strange thing is, Matthews had no violations or anything else on his record. He might have been given a warning.

What a senseless waste of human life.

[PLMerite]

Don't take this the wrong way, but generally that's the quote one would hear from a "good citizen."

...and sometimes "good citizens" make for bad government.

[hellinahandcart]

James Pritchard was a FReeper.

Really? Article says he is the county coroner, and is about to do autopsies on the two dead men.

Did you mean that Donald Matthews "was" a Freeper?

[tpaine]

Anyone who pulls a gun on cops over a traffic stop is not a Freeper. Thanks, AM
37 posted on 8/10/02 1:09 PM Pacific by Admin Moderator
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because so many FReepers commented on it to state unequivocally that shooting a policeman over a routine traffic stop is plain wrong.
Sadly, the human sentiment against murder was not unanimous on the deleted thread. There was one FReeper willing to praise the murder as a valid way to resolve the "constitutional crisis" of a traffic stop. Others were busy formulating conspiracy theories in their shallow minds. These sorts of vermin should be banned forthwith from the forum. We don't need monsters lurking and posting their bloody drivel.
38 po Cultural Jihad
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Apparently, he was registered at FR.

-- Your protest that he is 'not a freeper' only encourages nutcakes like CJ to spout their hysterical hype and make the situation look even more ridiculous.

[Cultural Jihad]

There wasn't, not a single post. The closest anyone had come to anything that could even be slightly construed as a possible "cop killing might be okay" message were the people that said they were sorry to see both the nut and the officer dead.

Then you hadn't read the posts very carefully. One poster declared that a mere traffic stop is a constitutional crisis. Others were speculating on some conspiracy to murder the driver because he was a nuisance to local governments.

[Kevin Curry]

I know that each of the (few) times I've ever been pulled over, one of the first things that comes to mind to say to the cop is "there are people being robbed, raped and murdered around here (and in my area that's very true), don't you have anything better to do?"

The cops in my area are perfectly capable of doing both: arresting violent criminals AND issuing routine traffic citations. They do a fine job. Occasionally they have to put up with crap-mouths such as yourself to get in done. All part of the job.

If you get pulled over in my neck of the woods, I'm rooting for the cops.

[Dan from Michigan]

I shot a Makarov 9mm at the range awhile back when I was shooting a bunch of pistols(I ended up getting a Rock Island 1911 .45). It was alright, but I like the 1911's better.

[dirtboy]

Get a grip dirt boy. This forum is for comments of all kinds. If the AM don't like it, or feels it's totally uncalled for he will delete it...Don't be so dang thin skinned.....

How about you become less dang thick headed. This story had NOTHING to do with illegal immigration - and two people are dead - but you have to up and try to make your point about illegal immigration. That is bullsh**.

[pubmom]

It was also suggested that he may have been killed by one of his fellow officers in "Friendly Fire" rather than by the perp because he was killed while wearing his vest. Duh, maybe the poor officer was shot in the head. Why do many here try to overanalyze the situation and come up with insane theories about what happened, when there are obvious reasons for what has occurred?

I have no sympathy for cop killers, but I do pray for the man's widow, and the officer's family. The pain he has caused I'm sure is hard to bear for all of them.

[Joe Hadenuf]

And I agree...

[FITZ]

I cooperate with the cops myself even if they sometimes have a strange attitude. I don't think cops always handle every problem correctly and I personally know of a man killed by a SWAT team who should not have been killed. He didn't handle the situation correctly but in that case the cops didn't either. I guess sometimes "rhetoric" has to be watched ---even our own because we don't know who might be reading and takes it too far.

[Larry Lucido]

But the traffic stops are revenue-enhancing...

In 16 years of law enforcement, I have never been asked to write tickets solely for revenue. To get my attention on the highway, you had to commit a clearly hazardous violation like blow a red light or go at least 15 to 20 over the limit (unless it was a school zone). But I didn't ignore traffic violations in between felony arrests, either.

[Scully]

Very, very tragic. My heart goes out to both families.

[Admin Moderator]

I will take that under advisement. However, this comment stands. Thanks, AM

[Cultural Jihad]

Why do many here try to overanalyze the situation and come up with insane theories about what happened, when there are obvious reasons for what has occurred?

The irrational ideologues are not so numerous, just endowed with big mouths.