Arius Piso signed up 2002-08-10.
Location: Pakistan pop.138M
Homepage: http://www.pakwatan.com/main/article_detail.php3?t1=402
Whatever you say, bunkie.
Posted on 08/11/2002 4:01:50 PM PDT by 1bigdictator
Got news for you Mr. Islamo Propogandist, first of, it is the Islamics who have illegally occupy Christian land, while perpetrating all grades of human rights and war crimes for the past 1300 years...please leave and pay us some reperations for the Orthodox Land you bastards flat out stole....or eventually you'll all meet Allah at the end of a large Christian tank. And there are more Isrealie Jews/Christians then Islamics...sorry to let air out of your balloon...actually not at all.
First because America and Israel are independent countries and the UN is nothing but a country less Political Party.
Second I never said the Palestinians could not tell the UN to stuff it. That is your words. Frankly I wish the whole world would tell the UN to stuff it, but the Marxist dictatorships never do because the UN likes Marxist dictatorships.
Third, perhaps if the UN would write sanctions against blowing up Pizza Parlors the Palestinians would tell the UN to stuff it. But as the UN only exist in the Palestinian sphere to protect them from Justice and fund their terrorism I do not see that happening soon.
And now you've fallen into my trap. :^))
I'm sorry, I fail to see your trap.
The Palestine isn't UN property to be deeded over to a Jewish state as a belated "I'm sorry" present to make up for genocides and pogroms committed by Europeans.
Man, you got to get some fresh air, all that western hating propaganda your Islamic Masters are feeding you is rotting your brain.
I really doubt pointing out the obvious to you will do any good at this point. You have clearly made up your mind already and are a sheep ready for shearing.
The land was captured from the Turks, who took it from the Islamic’s in World War I. When the government of Turkey was broken down (the Ottoman Empire) It was decided to place the worthless land (America had not discovered oil yet) in the hands of locals in a government of their choosing. It is called freedom. So Syria and Lebanon came into being. It was not done to soothe the savage conscience of liberal left self-haters. It was done to free the slaves of the Otoman Empire.
"The Palestine" as you put it was given to the Hash mites as Trans-Jordan a name that did not last long as Jordan promptly invaded its Neighbor and illegally seized land from Israel. So "Trans-Jordan" or "Across the Jordan" was a silly name at that point and everybody started just calling it Jordan.
Did you ever stop to think how silly "Trans-Jordan" is anyway? Why name a place as one across from another place? Know how that name came into being? Trans-Jordan was created because the Arabs, after having been given Jordan to make a home, and then Syria to make a home decided they wanted Israel too. So Israel was divided again (again and again) to create a place for them, giving them 70% of Israel, the part across the Jordan".
Jordan’s claims on the land it took during the 1948 war of Arab agression, were never recognized by the UN or America or any other than two bit players in international Politics. Simply because their taking the land was clearly an illegal act of aggression and to annex the land would be clearly against International Law. However the land was under UN control in the first place. When the UN also did not contest the ownership of the land by Jordan, they now find themselves in a strange position. How can they suddenly contest it when it is in the hands of the Jews when they did not when it was in the hands of the Arabs, without exposing their Arabic agenda?
Now, for the fourth time, the Arabs are demanding that "Palestine" be divided. I suspect as long as they get land doing it, they will continue to demand until everybody says "enough"! At that point they will take the rest by force. (Of course I am cheating, Arafat has openly said this in Arabic)
$6,000,000,000.00 a year buys a lot of AIPAC Washington Lobbyists, CAMERA thought police, ADL secret police, JDL hitmen, DEA moles, and "friends" in control mechanisms like the oligopoly media. This part is very unclear. I suspect the 6 Billion figure you are stating is the doubled and some figure that the Arabs claim America is giving the Jews, not the $6 Billion a year America is giving the Arabs. The $2 Billion in aid is given in credits for purchase of military hardware mostly. Some is given for things like building sewage plants etc.
Your comments about politics sounds like you are doing the Zionist controlled world thing from Hitler. It is the primary thing used to set up his genocidal empire within Christian Germany.
In short this statement, though rather unclear as its source does show a lot about you if I am guessing correctly. You listen to a lot of leftist propaganda, hate western values, Do not understand mathematics, yet quote figures and philosophy from the Islamic versions of Mien Kamft. The more I get to know you, the more I pity you. Stalin called your type of people "useful idiots" and cheerfully used people like you to destroy free nations from within. Then when he had control he executed you all. You are useful to cause inaction in defense by questioning the moral base of society. The first and most important thing to do in war is demoralize the enemy. You are called idiot's because you think with your darkened heart not your heads and are setting up your own execution.
I pity you, and your neighbors that you will gladly turn against in time to please your new masters. The brown shirts were quite handy for Hitler to destroy his opposition, and then when the SS were created, the SA (brown shirts) were slaughtered like the traitorous cattle they were.
” CAMERA thought police,” is a funny thing to call a truth in media group that specializes in exposing the lies in media. Someone who provides an alternative viewpoint by exposé’s are the worst possible candidate to use the term “thought police”. Thought police is what you are trying to do, without the attendant authority you so crave. I am beginning to think that thought is not your strong point, this is the hallmark of any form of thought police. Thought police is an oxymoron like political correctness. Thought has nothing to do with it nor does correctness or it would not be called “political” in the first place.
ADL secret police, Sorry again! ADL is a legal defense group and has NO police power or authority. You are shooting with blanks.
JDL hitmen, Are you saying that the JDL has hired killers, or are any opposing ideas to yours just plain unacceptable to you and yours? You are a slave to your bigotry, and any 5 year old could think their way out of the box you have got yourself in. I have taken the time to pick your ideas apart one after another because you are a perfect example of the Bigoted party line of the anti-Semites. Your ideas are dated, easily debunked and quite common from the brain-dead sheeple sect. Your reactions in persisting in these ideas show one of two things, you refuse any ideas out of your masters feed trough, or the roots of your training run deep. I will forgo the first conclusion to give you time to digest what I have said. I can see the second conclusion is true as the conversation develops, more and more evil little twisted bits are being upchucked. It’s ok, I don’t take it personally as I have seen exorcisms take place before and they can be messy. But the subject does quite well afterwards.
Medication has been applied, we just have to see if the patient responds.
No silly, the PLO were created to destroy the Jews, read their own charter. Zionism is the desire to build a nation in Israel, Jihad the closest political movement to the PLO is the desire to destroy all opposition to the Islamic’s.
Take a good look at Zionism, it's purpose is to create. Take a good look at the PLO, their purpose is to destroy. Find me the Zionist website. There is no such thing as Zionism is an ideal, whereas the PLO are a political party.
Human beings in Palestine don't need to be a proper (or THE CHOOSEN) People to have the rights of self defense and freedom.
What do the Jews personal religious beliefs have to do with this discussion? You obviously do not understand that the Jews feel they were Chosen to tell the world about God, which they did. Since you are the one who have changed the meaning to chosen above others as a personal bigotry of your own, kindly do keep it to yourself. I will take what the Jews say about themselves as far more accurate than what you say about what the Jews say.
Everybody has the right to defend themselves. What I do not understand is how blowing up public transportation can ever be seen in any way as self-defense.
And so you are wrong and illogical in your above claim. ...it does not follow that being Palestinian automatically gives anyone a political disposition.
As the Palestinian Liberation Organization is a political party, to be a "Palestinian" in the modern term has nothing but a political meaning. If I say I am a Republican it has the same effect. If you are the product of public schools, then the shift from training in thinking skills to self-awareness is a dismal failure on creating people that are other than slaves.
This is also seen on the Israeli side of the wall; great difference of opinion exists.
That is the hallmark of free societies. People are allowed to have opinions. You ought to try it sometime, it is why the Western Societies have left the Eastern society in the dust of the dark ages. After all, we invented and build Jets, and after much training, Arabs are capable of crashing them.
You do realize that Islam is an animalistic cave man mentality don't you? Beat your wife, rape your kids and kill your neighbors. Yeah, real progressive stuff... As for your comments about "illegal extreme final solutions", I have heard that only from the Islamic’s call for cleansing the land of Palestine with the blood of the Jews, or from their own Koran talking about how the last Jew alive will hide behind a rock and the rock will speak to the nearest Moslem saying "come kill this Jew". You can call it a religion, I just call it genocidal mania.
Now perhaps I understand your liberal self-hatred a bit better, you represent all that you loath in mankind. If you think the Islamic way is so superior go back to the desert and send smoke signals, because the clothes you wear, the food you eat, the car you drive and the computer you type on were all invented and made by the modern world. You need nothing but your sword for your neighbors, your campfire to sit around and your whip to keep your wife in line. Leave your matches behind as they were invented by the horrible westerners. Bang two rocks together for fire. Three bedsheets, a sword, a whip and a bag for your wife. Ahhh, the simple life… and so Holy too!
Arius Piso signed up 2002-08-10.
Location: Pakistan pop.138M
Homepage: http://www.pakwatan.com/main/article_detail.php3?t1=402
Whatever you say, bunkie.
They were also forcibly ejected from the Arab countries.
The Arabs demand total "purity" of their countries, and total acceptance by all other countries.
If Israel was half as intolerant of the Arabs as the Arabs are of Jews, the Middle East would be an entirely different place than it is now. And a whole lot more peaceful.
1948, now that was a year, wasn't it.
Say, speaking of years, 1967 was a year too, if I'm not mistaken. Which reminds me -- the Arabs insist that the only reason they attack Israel is because they want to "return to the 1967 borders."
OK, whatever. But what I can't figure out is if that's "the only reason they fight", why the hell were they continually fighting before 1967?
People that are such patently lousy liars that they can't even keep their story's major BS points straight should probably not try to get by as career liars.
Game, set, match.
Now that is impressive moderation response time!
If the "moderate Muslims" will not remove this cancer from their "religion" --- a great tragedy will soon befall the them --- because the West will come and destroy with a vengence that will be remembered for centuries.
Semper Fi
EG: Irish-American, Jewish-American, Arab-American, Native American, Muslim-American, African American. (Please don't ask me for a rule regarding hyphenation.)
The US is a nation by culture and idea, not blood. That is very different than Most Old World countries where race is the defining characteristic. There are always minoroities.
The problem with the designation of "Palestine" is that it creates tha false impression that the "Palestinians" of today are a distinct nationality and that they are teh same today as they were in the past. Futhermore, the Romans renamed Judea "Syria Paelestinia" in their campaign to cleanse it of Jews. Using that name or a derivative is a political statement of acquiecence to that policy.
Being in Israel, surely you've noticed people referred with >1 designate? Even back in our country, I see mentioned "Arab Israelis," "Palestinian Christians," "Arab-Palestinians," "Arab-Muslim," etc.
"Arab Israelis" are Arab citizens of Israel. They are the Arabs who choose to be part of Israel in 1948.
Palestinian Christians are a polyglot group of Christians who perfer to associate themselves with their former Arab-Muslim masters than as free citizens of Israel.
"Arab-Muslim" is a term showing race and religion, not nationality. (Although there have been attempts to create a Pan-Arab nation. The United Arab Republic under Sadat was an example of this.)
I hate to play the Freud card, but wasn't it actually the Zionists that started calling themselves a new name (Israelites) for the political purpose of establishing a Jewish state in the Palistine? Careful with those rocks and glass houses, bro...
Not at all. "Jew" is a European term taken from the Roman word Iudea for Yehuda.
We call ourselves B'nei Yisrael, or the Children of Israel. The closest Eropean appelation for this is Israelite.
You can't seperate the Religion of Israel, teh Land of Israel, and the Children of Israel. They are all interrelated. It is a pre-modern designation, that does not fit easily into modern socio-political constructs.
So did Poland, Bohemia and many other countries. Most of the Balkins...especially Serbia and Greece...hardly an "anomali".
You have a point here. However the diaspora is a factor that none of these groups had to contend with.
Time is also a factor. Poland was an independent country until the 1790's. The Bohemians/Czechs were independent 800 years ago. The Serbs and Greeks were under Turkish tyranny for under 500 years.
The last Israelite state was in 620 for one year as the Jews and Samaritans revolted against the Byzantines in the last Byzantine-Persian War.
As for the Rus, the Kieven Russ empire actually stretched to Krakow. Now the Ukrain was never really settled and Ukrainians (which means the Edge Of...ie Civilization) was a nomad steppe land of Turks) The Cossaks were a blend of Russ and Poles who became the "Ukrainians". Belaruss was simply under Litho-Polish rule for a long time and it was only during the 16-1700s that is was liberated from Catholic holds. So no, there were never "three" distinct groups...the area of Moscow was actually the Eastern most holds of the old Kieven Russ.
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