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WOLF! - WOLF!: False charges of rape often a call for help
page B1 of the Boston Globe ^ | 8/15/2002 | Ellen Barry

Posted on 08/15/2002 7:09:53 AM PDT by rface

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:08:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

On Monday, residents of Middleborough heard the appalling story of a disabled woman forced into a truck by a stranger in broad daylight outside Dunkin' Donuts, raped, and shoved out the door onto a roadside. Over the next day, alarmed residents called police with tips and earnestly told reporters that this kind of crime simply doesn't happen in Middleborough.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: rape
Rape is a horrid crime and guilty individuals should pay a high price - to falsly accuse someone of such a horrid crime is itself an act that deserves a high price paid to society.

I think this article is an attempt to portray the woman as a victim of the hand of fate, and that she should be spared any punishment for her awful crime.

You should not bear false witness

Ashland, Missouri

1 posted on 08/15/2002 7:09:54 AM PDT by rface
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To: rface
A false accusation of rape is worse than rape itself. Nothing can follow you your whole life like a sex offense.
2 posted on 08/15/2002 7:14:38 AM PDT by weikel
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To: rface
I think this story was posted on the Globe website earlier this morning.....

Woman may be charged for filing false rape claim

By Kevin Graham, Globe Correspondent, 8/15/2002

he Plymouth district attorney said yesterday that he is considering criminal charges against a woman who claimed she was abducted in Middleborough and raped, then told police she lied after a sketch of the man she said assaulted her had been released.

Investigators chased leads relentlessly Tuesday after the woman said Monday evening that she had been forced into a pickup truck at a busy intersection shortly after 5 p.m., driven to a secluded area at a nearby MBTA commuter rail station, then raped. But late Tuesday, the 41-year-old Middleborough woman, who walks with a cane and is in the early stages of muscular dystrophy, recanted her story to police.

The man wasn't a stranger but someone she had met several times at the Middleborough Dunkin' Donuts on Main Street, police said. It's unclear how well the two knew each other - she couldn't remember his name, said Police Chief Gary J. Russell.

''She did do a sexual act with him. They took a ride,'' and got into an argument afterward, Russell said Tuesday night while the woman was at the police station giving a written statement.

She said she was raped, Russell said, ''because she got mad at him, but she never intended for it to go this far.''

Although Middleborough police said they won't bring criminal charges against the woman, Plymouth District Attorney Timothy Cruz said his office is considering charging her with filing a false police report, punishable by either up to a year in jail, a $500 fine, or both. Cruz said his office would make a decision by tomorrow.

Russell said the investigation began focusing on the woman late Tuesday when inconsistencies in her story began to surface.

Russell said when asked if she knew the man's name, she first called him ''Ron.'' Later, she began referring to him as ''Rick,'' he said.

''It was believable, but when she started giving details,'' it didn't add up, Russell said. ''A lot of time was wasted, and we're not condoning her actions. ... The bottom line is that everyone in Middleborough knows there's not some crazy guy out there snatching women.''

This story ran on page B5 of the Boston Globe on 8/15/2002.

3 posted on 08/15/2002 7:16:08 AM PDT by rface
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To: rface
Estimates of how many rape allegations are false range from 2 percent, cited by women's groups, to 15 percent, used by the FBI. An advocate for rape victims said false allegations are ''a reality we're not going to deny,'' but they are far less common than women who never come forward because of the stigma they will encounter.

How about an example? Say in a given city in a given year 100 women are raped and only 10 of them come forward to report it because the others fear the stigma. Say also that there are 10 other women who, for reasons ranging from insanity to vengefulness, decide to falsely accuse men of raping them. What do the statistics turn out to be?

In this case, 50% of the reported rapes are false accusations (a figure I think is probably closer to reality than the FBI's 15%). But of the total rapes that actually occurred, less than 10% are false accusations (10 out of 110 total incidents) which is not so far from the number the feminist groups put forward.

The problem is that Rape Shield laws and other solutions put forward by the feminist groups give immense power to those 10 liars, without doing much of anything to help the 90 women who really were raped but were afraid to report it. Both sets of statistics are "true", as far as they go, but the only just solution is will come about when severe penalties are imposed for lying under oath ("Everybody lies about sex!" says Carville) and courts stop buying into these ludicrous "cry for help" excuses.

4 posted on 08/15/2002 7:28:24 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: rface
''We're the little town of Middleborough.... We average one murder a year if we're lucky.''

That's funny.

5 posted on 08/15/2002 7:30:14 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: rface
Prominent feminist Andrea Dworkin alleged a rape in Paris some two years ago, but --- wouldn't ya know it? --- even though she has been one of America's premier rape counselors for decades, she "didn't know" that she needed to get a medical examination to preserve evidence against the hotel bartender she accused of the crime.

At the time, some called the case a variation of Munchausen by Proxy, whereby, instead of bringing glory to herself by inflicting pain on a dependent child and then rescuing him or her, as classic Munchausens do, Dworkin hoped to gain glory by inflicting pain on and then "rescuing" herself, redounding to the everlasting credit of the Dworkin brand of feminism, one which is heavily fortified by an anti-male ideology.

Dworkin's story was basically laughed out of the court of public opinion, and nothing came of it. But I believe the kind of thinking we find in Dworkin's incredibly anti-male writing plays no small role in many of the cases of "factitious disorder" that result in false charges of rape.

6 posted on 08/15/2002 7:33:40 AM PDT by beckett
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To: rface
I'm constantly amazed at the willingness of men to stick their bidness into anything with legs. It's asking for trouble.
7 posted on 08/15/2002 7:37:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: rface
For the record...the Dunkin Donuts mentioned is off a highway exit about seven miles south of the Burger King in Bridgewater, MA where a woman was murdered a few weeks ago. There is a MacDonalds at the same exit where the police, with guns out, apprehended to-be robbers on a tip, a year or two ago. A few years ago, a teenage girl who was running on a rural street was abducted, thrown in a trunk, and managed to escape.

So, the Globe should've looked a little deeper. Enough has happened in and near Middleboro so the police would take a claim very seriously. They did a good job quickly sorting this out.

8 posted on 08/15/2002 7:45:59 AM PDT by grania
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To: rface
I think that a person who is falsely accused of rape deserves compensation from the accuser, and there should be the possibility of a criminal conviction for those who deliberately accuse others falsely of raping them.
9 posted on 08/15/2002 7:46:23 AM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Mr. Jeeves
But of the total rapes that actually occurred, less than 10% are false accusations (10 out of 110 total incidents) which is not so far from the number the feminist groups put forward.

Actually, of the total rapes that actually occurred, 0% are false accusations.

If you're saying 10% of (something) are false accusations, then the (something) has to be accusations. I understand what you're trying to say, but the term "false accusation" has a clear meaning.

10 posted on 08/15/2002 7:55:11 AM PDT by monkey
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To: AppyPappy
"I'm constantly amazed at the willingness of men to stick their bidness into anything with legs. It's asking for trouble."

Bravo Zulu! As an aside: I'm constantly amazed at men who would want to associate with a sick-o... just because she once smiled at him. (Looking for Love in all the wrong places????)

11 posted on 08/15/2002 7:58:54 AM PDT by grumpster-dumpster
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To: rface
may be charged ???

the bitch should be locked up for twenty years,
or, better yet, just shot ...

12 posted on 08/15/2002 8:03:31 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: monkey
Actually, of the total rapes that actually occurred, 0% are false accusations.

You are splitting hairs, but for the sake of argument I'll amend that to read "Of the total incidents (rapes and false accusations, totaling 110)..."

13 posted on 08/15/2002 8:07:02 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: grumpster-dumpster
I'm constantly amazed at men who would want to associate with a sick-o... just because she once smiled at him.

It's true - too many men are complete morons. But a false accusation does not always spring from a consensual encounter with a psycho - many are made up out of thin air.

14 posted on 08/15/2002 8:08:35 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"But a false accusation does not always spring from a consensual encounter with a psycho - many are made up out of thin air."

I agree. I merely think that "discernment" is the most important factor when deciding an association... (Learned about that the hard-way, myself.)

15 posted on 08/15/2002 8:15:43 AM PDT by grumpster-dumpster
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To: Mr. Jeeves
It is not splitting hairs. You are saying that 10% of "rapes and false accusations" are false accusations, and then comparing this number with "the number the feminists groups put forward", i.e., percentage of false accusations.

Percentage of false accusations is the percentage of accusations that are false. There is only one way to calculate it.

I think you are trying to compare false positives with false negatives, by the odd method of combining the two. But your result has nothing to do with the well-defined term "false accusations".

16 posted on 08/15/2002 8:31:44 AM PDT by monkey
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To: rface
We average one murder a year if we're lucky...

Well.

That's a...riveting[?] way make a point..
17 posted on 08/15/2002 10:49:02 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29
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To: beckett
Interesting turnaround you've had on this issue.
18 posted on 07/25/2003 5:21:31 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Mr. Jeeves
50%... a figure I think is probably closer to reality than the FBI's 15%

I don't believe that 15% is the number "used by the FBI." I think that might be Ms. Barry trying to be helpful.

In C.P. McDowell, & N.S. Hibler, False allegations, Behavioral Science Unit, FBI Academy, Quantico, VA, 1985 they examined 556 cases. They used a very tight criterion for determining that an allegation was false: the accuser herself had to recant the charge and admit that she had made it up. Under that criterion, 27% were found to be fraudulent allegations. They then gave the pile of less certain cases to a panel of three independent investigators. Their conclusion was that 60% of those were false as well.

E.J. Kanin, "False rape allegations." Archives of Sexual Behavior, 23(1) 1994 reports a study done at a university using similar citeria and concludes "false rape allegations constitute 41% of the total forcible rape cases reported during this period." Another done at two midwestern universities found 50%.

Whatever the number is, it is non-zero and large enough to give pause to anyone tempted to jump on every allegation of rape as if it must be true.

Here's another thing the FBI says, on a slightly different aspect of the problem: "Every year since 1989, in about 25 percent of the sexual assault cases referred to the FBI where results could be obtained (primarily by State and local law enforcement), the primary suspect has been excluded by forensic DNA testing."

They also say this:


19 posted on 07/25/2003 6:04:50 AM PDT by Nick Danger (The views expressed may not actually be views)
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To: Nick Danger
Nick, please post this on all relevant Kobe threads.

Quite a find you have there.
20 posted on 07/25/2003 6:06:34 AM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Nick Danger
In a criminal justice class I took in college, one of my textbooks cited a study showing that, in 25% of alleged rape cases (I'm almost sure it was 25%, but it's been several years), the victim admitted that she had consensual sex with the accused AFTER the supposed rape had occurred. At the risk of sounding jaded, I'd be hard pressed to take any woman seriously that claimed to have been raped, but she later chose to have sex with the accused on her own free will.
21 posted on 07/25/2003 6:12:30 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: weikel
I agree with your sentiment, but you go too far, the memory of being raped will always be with you as well.
22 posted on 07/25/2003 6:16:55 AM PDT by Unassuaged
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To: beckett
Prominent feminist Andrea Dworkin alleged a rape in Paris some two years ago... Dworkin's story was basically laughed out of the court of public opinion

Would that be because it's clear Dworkin could squash any man insane enough to try to rape her?


23 posted on 07/25/2003 6:46:57 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: Skywalk
How did you manage to dig that one up?

I take each case as I find it. Dworkin, one of the ugliest women on the planet, was obviously fantasizing. The men she accused were hapless hotel employees whom she couldn't even prove said hello to her, let alone came to her room and raped her. Also, as I said in the post you cited, Dworkin claimed not to know that the preservation of DNA evidence was vital to the successful prosecution of a rape case, a clear and obvious lie.

The Colorado girl also evoked deep skepticism in me when I first heard about the case. In fact if you find my first two or three posts on the case you'll see I was defending Bryant. I began to turn around as the circumstances surrounding the incident were revealed, most importantly the bruises, but also the brief timespan, certain signals Bryant has given out by his behavior, and several other factors. Put them all together and they don't add up to a consensual romp in the hay.

24 posted on 07/25/2003 7:33:56 AM PDT by beckett
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To: shhrubbery!
I almost hit the "report abuse" button when I saw your post. ;-)
25 posted on 07/25/2003 7:52:47 AM PDT by beckett
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