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"Some days ... I just want to go up to the closest black person and say...then slap him...
Kathleen Parker ^ | August 21, 2002 | Jewish World Review

Posted on 08/21/2002 5:32:42 AM PDT by SJackson

"Some days I get so frustrated I just want to go up to the closest black person and say, 'You can't understand this, it's a white thing,' and then slap him, just for my mental health"

http://www.NewsAndOpinion.com | "You know, some days I get so frustrated I just want to go up to the closest black person and say, 'You can't understand this, it's a white thing,' and then slap him, just for my mental health."

Outrageous, right? No one said it. But what I wrote, only with the races switched, is what a black New York City Council member, Charles Barron, did say.

Lest there be any confusion, here are Barron's exact words: "I want to go up to the closest white person and say, 'You can't understand this, it's a black thing' and then slap him, just for my mental health."

Barron, whose mental health may indeed be in question, made his remark during a reparations rally in Washington, D.C., this past Sunday. He was joined by other black activists, Louis Farrakhan and U.S. Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., who has been pursuing the slavery reparations issue in Congress. Conyers has introduced legislation HR 40 ("Commission to Study Reparations Proposals for African-Americans Act"), which proposes studying the effects of slavery on black Americans and authorizes appropriations.

Farrakhan, temperate by Barron's standard, told the crowd of 2,000 to 3,000 protesters, "America owes the black people a lot for what they've endured." He didn't mention whether the $6 trillion spent on the War on Poverty since 1965 would be considered a down payment.

To chants of "Black power!" "Reparations!" and "Start the revolution!" Farrakhan called for "land for political independence, we need millions of acres. ... We need payment for 310 years of slavery, of destruction of our minds and the robbery of our culture."

When he alluded to "destruction of our minds," I'm guessing Farrakhan was referring to Barron's own mental health. Perhaps his issues are so severe, we should ignore Barron's need to slap white people. Indeed, when someone says something so blatantly inflammatory and patently offensive in a public forum, it's tempting to ignore him. But an elected representative in the nation's largest city can't be ignored. He is real, and his words matter.

Presumably, Barron meant that white people couldn't understand how blacks feel about reparations, about having been descended of slaves, about having suffered racial discrimination. And while this is true to the same degree that I can't understand what it's like to die until I do, whites and other non-blacks have proved by the laws we live under that they both understand the necessity of freedom and human dignity and are willing to fight and die for both.

Mr. Barron, your slap has been received and acknowledged.

As to reparations, one can reasonably argue against them without being racist or needing slap therapy. Although only the bravest blacks - JWR Walter Williams among them - would dare protest reparations, no doubt many see the illogic behind such demands.

First, when reparations activists insist that the U.S. government pay reparations, one has to wonder: whom would we pay and with whose money? No one living today has been either a slaveholder or a slave. If present governments - by which we mean, "we the people" - owe the descendants of long-dead victims for past wrongs, there's no end to the list or the payoff.

Second, it's not as though The Government is some independent entity with an infinite wallet. What the government has is what it takes from me. And you. So let's get this straight: We who have never owned a slave, who have never believed in or condoned slavery, who are not descended from anyone who ever owned a slave must pay people who have never been slaves?

The search for logic in the reparations argument is futile. What is not futile is our ongoing struggle for national unity, and these guys do not appear to be on our side. Urging racial disharmony and slinging segregationist rhetoric, which would never be tolerated from whites, is arrogant, self-serving and, frankly, ignorant.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; blacks; civilwar; conyers; extortion; farrakhan; greatsociety; race; racism; reparations; slavery; slaves; waronpoverty; welfare
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1 posted on 08/21/2002 5:32:42 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
What a lovely lady. I'm definitely tickled by this article. ;)

Regards, Ivan

2 posted on 08/21/2002 5:34:48 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: SJackson

NO REPARATIONS WITHOUT REPATRIATION!


4 posted on 08/21/2002 5:39:05 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne
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To: SJackson
But Mr. Barron has already 'splained all this to WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg:

"Well, let me say this to you. It's interesting that they would take that out of my speech. I think everybody knew there that was what we call improvision - oratorial improvision and black hyperbole. And y'all wouldn't understand that 'cause you're uptight and you're gonna take it where it was not intended.

Everybody at the rally laughed. White stage hands and camera people laughed. When I came off the stage, I shook hands with whites who were there and they congratulated me on a great speech. No one has taken that serious but you."

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

5 posted on 08/21/2002 5:39:52 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: SJackson
Excellent article
6 posted on 08/21/2002 5:42:11 AM PDT by ncpastor
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To: SJackson
He didn't mention whether the $6 trillion spent on the War on Poverty since 1965 would be considered a down payment.

Not to mention the the payment in BLOOD - hundreds of thousands of lives lost, on the Union as well as the Confederate side, during the War Between the States.


7 posted on 08/21/2002 5:44:01 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: SJackson
"But an elected representative in the nation's largest city can't be ignored. He is real, and his words matter."

Earl Hillard.

Cynthia McKinney.

Charles Barron?

Clean the kooks out of the government.

8 posted on 08/21/2002 5:44:33 AM PDT by blam
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To: SJackson; mhking
Great editorial.
9 posted on 08/21/2002 5:54:34 AM PDT by LBGA
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To: mikeb704
How much of a sense of humor would he have had if that white stagehand had said "That was pretty funny, boy."? Used as white oratorial improvision and hyperbole, of course........
10 posted on 08/21/2002 5:56:05 AM PDT by Feckless
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To: Izzy Dunne
Reparations for descendants of slaveowners! Their ancestors property was taken without compensation, so it is only fair that the taxpayers kick in to right this terrible injustice!
11 posted on 08/21/2002 5:58:57 AM PDT by THE Aardvark
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To: SJackson
"Start the revolution!"

Bring it on. Start by burning down your own neighborhoods, like you usually do, you stupid bastards.

12 posted on 08/21/2002 5:59:00 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Feckless
Just a guess, but I doubt if Charlie would have chortled all the way home.
13 posted on 08/21/2002 5:59:02 AM PDT by mikeb704
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To: SJackson
If anyone gets reparations, I want a slave.
14 posted on 08/21/2002 6:02:48 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: SJackson
How Black do you have to be to get reparations?
Is Halle Berry Black enough?
What if someone is 1/128 Black?
What documentation is required?

The questions are endless...

15 posted on 08/21/2002 6:03:17 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: bimbo
how about a naturalized citizen from nigeria?

woo hoo, the gravy train's a-comin !!

16 posted on 08/21/2002 6:04:34 AM PDT by glock rocks
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To: sapient02
"Start the revolution!"

I'm ready when you are. Of course, many of you have been indoctrinated with Muslim terror tactics. Whatever.

17 posted on 08/21/2002 6:12:07 AM PDT by banjo joe
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To: bimbo
A fairly clear answer to your question may be obtained by looking at the Nuremburg Laws, authored by Wilhelm Stuckart. Read the parts describing who is an Aryan, Jew, half-Jew, quarter-Jew, and so on. Replace the word "Jew" with "black" and you get the desired information, as well as the mindset of these reparation advocates.
18 posted on 08/21/2002 6:17:52 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: SJackson
"Start the revolution!"

Oh, please, please.

19 posted on 08/21/2002 6:32:53 AM PDT by A2J
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To: Izzy Dunne
Rock n roll, Mate!

Great Slogan!!!!!!!!

A one way ticket BTA!
20 posted on 08/21/2002 6:37:00 AM PDT by madvlad
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
Black conservative ping

If you want on (or off) of my black conservative ping list, please let me know via FREEPmail. (And no, you don't have to be black to be on the list!)

Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.

21 posted on 08/21/2002 6:48:45 AM PDT by mhking
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To: SJackson
To chants of "Black power!" "Reparations!" and "Start the revolution!" Farrakhan called for "land for political independence, we need millions of acres. ... We need payment for 310 years of slavery, of destruction of our minds and the robbery of our culture."

I guess I'm one of the few white devils who agree that reparations are in order. A comparison should be taken to examine the opportunities available to them here in the land of oppression and disenfranchisement versus the squalor, lawlessness, and utter hopelessness that exists throughout their ancenstors land of milk and honey. Then they should PAY US reparations in gratitude of our forefathers' delivering them from their "motherland". Of course, I've never seen any evidence that any of my ancestors were involved in slavery, but I still want the cash - I guess it's a white thing for my mental health.......

22 posted on 08/21/2002 6:57:06 AM PDT by awelliott
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To: banjo joe
"Start the revolution!"

I'm ready when you are. Of course, many of you have been indoctrinated with Muslim terror tactics. Whatever.

================

Yes, but the blood of Ethan Allen and the Green Mountain Boys runs deep and true.

23 posted on 08/21/2002 7:02:08 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: Izzy Dunne
NO REPARATIONS WITHOUT REPATRIATION!

Perhaps 40 acres and a water buffalo in Zimbawe. I understand some farm land there has recently become available.

24 posted on 08/21/2002 7:03:13 AM PDT by TheRightGuy
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To: SJackson
Posted at the Kunta Kinte-Alex Haley Memorial, Annapolis, Maryland...read the following:

"The ancestors of all of us came across that same ocean in some ship. We must learn not only to live together, but learn to see one another as people rather than as stereotypes."

ALEX HALEY

Thank you, Alex. Guess this covers my Ellis Island ancestor connection as well.

sw

25 posted on 08/21/2002 7:12:17 AM PDT by spectre
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To: yankeedame
Well spoken, Sir!
26 posted on 08/21/2002 7:13:48 AM PDT by banjo joe
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To: mikeb704
Charles Barron? My, my, my. You guys don't realize he authored a number of self-published "self-help" books. They make interesting reading.
27 posted on 08/21/2002 7:23:56 AM PDT by lavrenti
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To: mikeb704
"Well, let me say this to you. It's interesting that they would take that out of my speech. I think everybody knew there that was what we call improvision - oratorial improvision and black hyperbole."

Not to question the au fait Mr. Barron, but what is "improvision", I ax?
28 posted on 08/21/2002 7:39:26 AM PDT by Neckbone
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To: 17th Miss Regt
According to the Nuremburg Laws, anybody who was less than one-quarter Jewish was not a Jew under the law. I have a feeling that the black racists define "African in America" much more broadly, and that they share the "one drop of black blood" view of the white racists in this country (after all, they want their coalition to be as big as possible.)
29 posted on 08/21/2002 7:49:43 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: SJackson; NativeNewYorker; mrustow
I don't expect the New York City Council to expel Barron for this statement, but isn't there some way to get them to censure him?
30 posted on 08/21/2002 7:51:05 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: SJackson
Glad to see the humorous responses to this post. I watched some of that televised event and found myself enraged by the speeches. I feel this is just another example of the spineless people of the United States sitting back, because it is politically incorrect to make anti reparation comments publicly lest you be thought of as racist. This legislation, as funny as we may believe it to be, could very well become a reality by virtue of the fact that no collective voice speaks up against it.
31 posted on 08/21/2002 7:56:08 AM PDT by lindaloo
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To: SJackson
YEs, but what is Ms. Parker's position on The Other Reparations Movement? I can't see how you can be against one without being against the other.
32 posted on 08/21/2002 7:56:44 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: aristeides
We need folks like this to highlight what the left is about. He does us more good IN public life, than out.
33 posted on 08/21/2002 7:58:32 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker
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To: madvlad
A one way ticket BTA!

Right on!

34 posted on 08/21/2002 7:58:57 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: NativeNewYorker
That may be a reason not to expel the guy, but it's actually a reason to censure him. A censure motion will give his words more publicity.
35 posted on 08/21/2002 8:01:11 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: mhking
Black conservatives should get all the help and support possible!
36 posted on 08/21/2002 8:01:16 AM PDT by metacognative
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To: bimbo
My hair is curly. Do I qualify?
37 posted on 08/21/2002 8:01:24 AM PDT by Momma Lou
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To: Momma Lou
LOL!
38 posted on 08/21/2002 8:03:48 AM PDT by MotleyGirl70
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To: SJackson
Years ago, when white racism was tolerated if not supported outright, white demagogues indeed made comments far worse than this, of course.

Nowadays, black racism is tolerated if not supported outright, so comments like this one go unremarked in the mainstream media.

So it goes.

39 posted on 08/21/2002 8:15:51 AM PDT by Illbay
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To: THE Aardvark
Reparations for descendants of slaveowners! Their ancestors property was taken without compensation, so it is only fair that the taxpayers kick in to right this terrible injustice!

Calling for that reveals something about you.

This is just as stupid as the calling for reparations.

40 posted on 08/21/2002 8:23:09 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: SJackson
Related Article

Barbara Stanley: Reparations -- No Matter
Source: Toogood Reports; Published: August 21, 2002
Author: Barbara Stanley

Recently, the United Nations ok´d the idea of reparations for slavery in America´s history and a rally was held to trumpet that cause in DC. No matter that the United States Constitution protects those not proven guilty of a crime from paying penance; no matter many of today´s citizens are children of the waves of immigration that occurred in the early part of this century and never owned slaves; no matter slavery was begun in Africa by blacks selling blacks to Arabs. No, no matter that this notion, on its face, is illegal, unjust or ineffective to race relations today. And, no matter that America was the country which brought about the beginning of the end of slavery.

I guess, to be specific, since black Africans sold the first black African slaves, any reparations granted, though illegal, would be paid back by the very folks who lay claim to receive. Huh? Slavery, then, is a completely African black/Arab issue. Why am I in this mix? I never owned a slave; never would enslave another of any race, color or creed; am already taxed to the max by an oppressive confiscatory system and am somewhere between a serf, who gives two thirds of his labors and a slave who gives one-hundred percent as I pay a combined state and federal tax of 52¢ out of every dollar earned, myself............."


41 posted on 08/21/2002 8:30:59 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: THE Aardvark
"Reparations for descendants of slaveowners! Their ancestors property was taken without compensation, so it is only fair that the taxpayers kick in to right this terrible injustice!"

Then somebody owes my family compensation for 90,000 acres of plantation land stolen in Louisiana by the perpetrators of the Northern Aggression -- that is why my ancestors became refugees in Texas.

42 posted on 08/21/2002 8:35:11 AM PDT by TexasRepublic
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To: SJackson
Great article. This whole reparations argument is pretty baffling. I've always respected my elders, just as my hardworking immigrant parents taught me. I'm 33 now, and I realize these men who are demanding reparations are my "elders" by age. But for heavens sake! Why is it my fault if they feel bad about themselves? I can't help that I was born white. And why do they need my money to feel better?
43 posted on 08/21/2002 8:36:12 AM PDT by Sally II
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To: Neckbone
Not to question the au fait Mr. Barron, but what is "improvision", I ax?

heh....good catch! Also, one might wonder what the difference is between "black" hyperbole and any other kind of hyperbole.

44 posted on 08/21/2002 8:42:21 AM PDT by FourtySeven
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To: Sally II
...And why do they need my money to feel better?.....

It's a lawyer thing.

45 posted on 08/21/2002 8:47:16 AM PDT by bert
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To: SJackson
Question:

My wife's family came to America in the early 1900's. After slavery was abolished. How much does she have to pay and why is she liable for reparations?

My mother's side of the family also cam to America in the early 1900's, and my father's side traces back to Braintree, Mass. I have never found any record that anyone in my family was a slave owner or lived in the south for that matter. How much do I have to pay and why am I liable?

There are quite a few African-Americans who came to this country after slavery was abolished. How much do they get and why are they entitled to it?

So many questions.
46 posted on 08/21/2002 8:50:56 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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To: Kenton
This isn't just black and white. It's brown and white, yellow and white, red and white, etc., etc.

Funny thing is...I'm not albino. Maybe, if all of these people that want equality quit talking about our differences, we can realize that we are all the same, inside.
47 posted on 08/21/2002 9:17:43 AM PDT by wizr
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To: FourtySeven
one might wonder what the difference is between "black" hyperbole and any other kind of hyperbole

Or my personal favorite- "reverse discrimination" used to describe discrimination against whites. The "reverse" part of course insinuating that all other discrimination was perpitrated by whites. That one makes a vein throb in my head.
48 posted on 08/21/2002 11:55:38 AM PDT by Neckbone
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To: aristeides
I don't expect the New York City Council to expel Barron for this statement, but isn't there some way to get them to censure him?

The council is run by a white Uncle Tom named Gifford who has nothing but kind things to say about Charles Barron.

49 posted on 08/21/2002 2:29:36 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: SJackson; Cagey; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
If we pay, do get to have a slave for our money?

I don't give money for nothing.

50 posted on 08/21/2002 2:57:18 PM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So
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