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LIZZIE: 'MY MAN SAVED ME'
NY Post ^ | 8/26/02 | VICTORIA GOTTI and CLEMENTE LISI

Posted on 08/26/2002 12:31:02 PM PDT by hellinahandcart

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:08:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

"If not for him I couldn't have gotten through the most difficult time of my life," Grubman, who identified her new beau only as Jeff, told The Post.

Grubman, who backed her father's Mercedes-Benz SUV into a crowd of revelers last summer outside the Conscience Point Inn in Southampton, injuring 16 people, pleaded guilty Friday to leaving the scene of an accident and misdemeanor assault. Under the plea deal, the DWI charge against her was dropped.


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"At a time when my mother needed me most, I was distracted by legal proceedings, negative publicity and a never-ending workload from clients."

When your mother needed you most, you were out partying, screaming insults, and ramming a group of "white trash" with your Daddy's car.

1 posted on 08/26/2002 12:31:03 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
I heard this on TV yesterday, on my way out the door. The keywords are my comments verbatim.

I searched and didn't find this article posted here.

2 posted on 08/26/2002 12:35:38 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Liz Grubman's boyfriend needs a new seeing-eye dog. This one's going blind, too.
3 posted on 08/26/2002 12:38:53 PM PDT by RichInOC
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To: RichInOC
Her last boyfriend doesn't have any problems "seeing clearly", though:

Her last long-term relationship ended in disaster. Andrew Sasson, her onetime boyfriend, testified against her to the grand jury, saying she was visibly drunk at the time.

The "white trash" are just going to love Andrew, come lawsuit-time.

They will all win, too.

4 posted on 08/26/2002 12:42:49 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Grubman, who now has to deal with eight lawsuits totaling $183 million, said there is no reason to rejoice.

It's also worth noting that since she has pleaded guilty to a crime, none of the damages that she'll have to pay as a result of these lawsuits will be covered by her insurance company.

What is more intriguing is that the SUV she was driving belonged to her father. If my understanding of the law is correct, her father will soon be faced with a very interesting dilemma: File criminal charges against his daughter for stealing his SUV, or end up paying a big chunk of that $183 million himself.

5 posted on 08/26/2002 12:52:24 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: hellinahandcart
I wonder if Lizzie is the subject on which "Sex and the City"'s character Samantha is based?
6 posted on 08/26/2002 1:01:26 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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To: hellinahandcart

That first shot is not what I'd want to wake up to in the morning. The second one is apparently the answer to "What do you get if you cross Ozzie Osborne and Gloria Steinem."

I guess some guys would do anything to date a blonde.... My guess is that "Jeff" sits down to urinate.

Then again, perhaps it's the lifestyle:

Grubman spent yesterday near her Upper East Side home, going to the gym in the morning, then heading to a corner deli for some espresso. She also had a meeting at her apartment with business partner Jake Spitz and later grabbed a quick salad at Patsy's Pizzeria.

Finally, I have to giggle at the possible connotations of a firm called "Grubman and Spitz."

7 posted on 08/26/2002 1:05:59 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: hellinahandcart
Thank Gawd so many people help Miss Lizzie in her time of need:

PEE R. WHIZ AND PUSHY POSSE PUT ME IN MY PLACE

8 posted on 08/26/2002 1:09:30 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: LarryLied
You have to love the Post's titles.

You also have to love the fact that Victoria Gotti co-authored this article. I've already had two freepmails asking "any relation to...?"

(The answer is "Yes, ain't it a funny world?")

9 posted on 08/26/2002 1:13:22 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: LarryLied
I see you're here on a gossip thread again today. :-)
10 posted on 08/26/2002 1:14:17 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: hellinahandcart
Grubman, who backed her father's Mercedes-Benz SUV into a crowd of revelers last summer outside the Conscience Point Inn in Southampton, injuring 16 people, pleaded guilty Friday to leaving the scene of an accident and misdemeanor assault. Under the plea deal, the DWI charge against her was dropped.
Hmm, how many of us regulars could drive drunk, run over some people, and then have the DWI part dropped? How many days is she going to spend in jail anyway?
As for the $185M in lawsuits, alas it doesn't look like Worldcom analyist Jack Grubman is related to her.
11 posted on 08/26/2002 1:16:33 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Alberta's Child
Do you think Lizzie is blaming the time she missed with her mother on everybody else? I do. First things first, Lizzie.
12 posted on 08/26/2002 1:17:27 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: lelio
I think I read that she can get out after 40 days with good behavior.

I'm glad to hear she wants to really throw herself into her business. She has sixteen people to support now.

13 posted on 08/26/2002 1:21:17 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
This story demonstrates the huge gulf that has appeared between the elites (mostly white) and working class whites in America. The woman is part of a swarm of NYC rich elitists who descend on the Hamptons every August to party, socialize, and treat the natives there like dirt.

She was out at some elite club, thought she was sooo special that she could park her daddy's Mercedes SUV in the fire lane, and then shouted "white trash" at the doorman who insisted that she move it (right before she backed over him with the SUV).

The story shows the utter decadence of the white ruling class in America and their total disdain for the working and middle class people.

She never would have shouted a racist slogan at a minority doorman (way too trailer trashish).

Seldom, if ever, do I hear minority elites badmouthing poor blacks or hispanics. But I hear it constantly from elite whites. It is indicative of a very serious underlying cultural problem.

14 posted on 08/26/2002 1:32:32 PM PDT by quebecois
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To: Howlin; hellinahandcart
"hellinahandcart" posted this because she is an anti-SUVitic. She lives in New Yawk City you know. They hate SUVs. She's an artist too and I don't have to tell you about them. Probably rides a bicycle and wants all SUVs taken to the junkyard.
15 posted on 08/26/2002 2:33:35 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: quebecois
I betcha there's a Bubba from Chappaqua who "feels her pain" and would offer a helping hand to this poor abused young thing...
16 posted on 08/26/2002 3:07:47 PM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds
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To: hellinahandcart
<< Grubman, who now has to deal with eight lawsuits totaling $183 million, said there is no reason to rejoice. >>

Now that she has plead guilty in this matter, the room-temparature-IQd, butt-fugly, puffy-faced, peroxided, terminally-self-centered and habitually-drunken, thirty-plus years old, daddy's-car-driving, Korsokoff's Syndromed, Grubman, is gunna be very very busy indeed for very very many years and many Hundreds of Millions of Dollars worth of law suits from the other eight little people she drunkenly and arrogantly ran down bring their cases against her.

For my money this may very well turn into one of those situations where in the end justice is not only done but is also seen to be so!
17 posted on 08/26/2002 3:22:42 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: quebecois
I agree with you, with qualifications.

There USED to be a concept of "noblesse oblige", which in America was translated into the idea that if you had money and position, you were expected to behave in a benevolent way specifically towards those who worked for you and more generally towards those who did not have your benefits.

Those who inherited money were taught this by their parents. Those who did NOT inherit money did not want to be thought of as trash who happened into their bucks (what we Southerners used to call "no blood and new money"), so they learned quickly how to behave or they were despised.

Whatever the social compact was that insisted on this code of conduct is apparently gone in New York. It still survives in the South (except Atlanta) and I presume portions of New England and the Midwest.

18 posted on 08/26/2002 3:23:42 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: r9etb
Jeff sits down to urinate?BWAHAHAHAHA. What a low blow.Well ifn he don't i bet he does put the seat down when he's done.HA!
19 posted on 08/26/2002 3:35:33 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: hellinahandcart
This is a naueseating human being. "It's all about me," is her only motto. The incident is tragic only in as far as it inconvenienced her. So, this story is essentially how SHE is getting on with HER life after that terrible thing happened to HER.

Vomit inducing. I'm glad I don't live anywhere near the Hamptons.

20 posted on 08/26/2002 3:44:24 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: hellinahandcart
Her last long-term relationship ended in disaster. Andrew Sasson, her onetime boyfriend, testified against her to the grand jury, saying she was visibly drunk at the time.

She also said she regrets not spending more "necessary quality" time with her mother, Yvette Grubman, who died last year after a long bout with ovarian cancer.

"At a time when my mother needed me most, I was distracted by legal proceedings, negative publicity and a never-ending workload from clients," said Grubman, daughter of music-industry lawyer Allen Grubman.

"I also didn't want her to see how sad I was."

Yeah, we don't need to worry about how those 16 people you injured by your irresponsible acts had to suffer - that's right, YOU'RE the victim.

G$%@##$%m Liberals can NEVER accept responsiblity....

21 posted on 08/26/2002 3:52:28 PM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: AnAmericanMother
I agree heartily with your identification of "noblesse oblige" as a curb on the otherwise predatory habits of the powerful. But, I am of the opinion that this can only be fostered in a relatively monocultural society (where the elites and the common man are arguably part of the same ethnic family).

The wealthy and powerful must be taught from their earliest education that they have a moral responsiblity that comes along with their wealth and power (I'm talking about a culturally and socially encouraged responsibility...not the phoney "responsbility" of socialism/redistribution....I'm talking about "nobility" in the best, old sense of the term).

Since the obvious impulse of the rich and powerful is to use their wealth and power to continue to accumulate more...this "noblesse oblige" is not something that is intuitive...but is rather something that must be taught by the person's parents, church, educators, etc. The case for this sort of thing is much easier to make when the downtrodden in a given society are of the same tribal unit as the powerful.

In a fragmented, multicultural society such as ours, there is neither the educational/cultural coherence to encourage such behavior...nor is there the argument from "tribal/extended family responsibility".

The result is uncultured, arrogant monsters like the above Ms. Grubman.

22 posted on 08/26/2002 4:21:34 PM PDT by quebecois
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To: Alberta's Child
>It's also worth noting that since she has pleaded guilty to a crime, none of the damages that she'll have to pay as a result of these lawsuits will be covered by her insurance company.

Is that true? I mean a drunk driver kills some people and POOF! No tort, no claims. It seems the insurance company won't insure Grubman from the suits, but it would end up paying anyway. It would have to try to recover the judgements from Grubman.

24 posted on 08/26/2002 4:45:23 PM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Dialup Llama
Is that true? I mean a drunk driver kills some people and POOF! No tort, no claims. It seems the insurance company won't insure Grubman from the suits, but it would end up paying anyway. It would have to try to recover the judgements from Grubman.

This may vary from state to state, but it is my understanding that most liability insurance policies specifically state that no claim will be paid in the event the claim arises from an incident in which the insured is guilty of a criminal offense.

I'd be interested to hear what any lawyers or insurance people on FreeRepublic have to say about it.

25 posted on 08/26/2002 5:52:08 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Brian Allen
Well said! Korsokoff's syndrome is what? And you gotta love the little skank's priorities: "Mummy is dying, I think I will go drink and run over peasants."
26 posted on 08/26/2002 8:25:55 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: hellinahandcart
"I long for the day when I can put my head down on the pillow with peace of mind..."

...safe in the knowledge that some drunken, coked-up, self-centered psycho bitch won't run it over.

27 posted on 08/26/2002 8:32:57 PM PDT by dead
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To: Howlin
Lizzie's Jewish.
28 posted on 08/26/2002 9:14:05 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: Alberta's Child
Not true in Texas.
29 posted on 08/26/2002 9:15:47 PM PDT by Yehuda
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To: LarryLied; veronica; Catspaw; SJackson; Cachelot
Lizzie is your gal. Wanna take a ride? How long has it been? She looks OK enough to me.

 

30 posted on 08/26/2002 9:26:52 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: firebrand; StarFan; stanz; Dutchy; NYC GOP Chick; KLT; Black Agnes
*Lizzie Alert* ping! (If you're interested) Article by Victoria Gotti, no less... LOL

Only in New York, kids! :-)

31 posted on 08/26/2002 9:28:52 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: dennisw
I don't ride with blonde strangers.
32 posted on 08/26/2002 10:08:53 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson; LarryLied; Cachelot

 

Larry..... Wanna take a ride with Lizzie or Jody Foster?

 



 


33 posted on 08/26/2002 10:16:44 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
Probably rides a bicycle and wants all SUVs taken to the junkyard.

It's worse than you think.

I don't own a bicycle, rollerblades or even one of those damned scooters. I get around this town mostly on foot.

My driver's license is strictly ID.

34 posted on 08/27/2002 5:14:01 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: dead
...safe in the knowledge that some drunken, coked-up, self-centered psycho bitch won't run it over.

Interesting you should say "coked-up". That's what I thought initially too. A little too much coke with her cocktails. She just seemed a bit too frenzied for booze alone.

"I was NOT DRIVING DRUNK!!! No, I WASN'T!! That's the TRUTH!!"

35 posted on 08/27/2002 5:18:07 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
I get around this town mostly on foot.

To live in this town you must be tough, tough, tough, tough, tough!

 

36 posted on 08/27/2002 5:24:56 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: hellinahandcart
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR....Poor little rich kid....has a tantrum, runs over numerous people, and buys here way out of trouble with a nuthin sentence....
37 posted on 08/27/2002 5:31:24 AM PDT by KLT
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To: dennisw
"Rats" on the West Side, bedbugs uptown--What a mess, this town's in tatters..

(but love and hope and sex and dreams are still survivin' on the street ;D)

38 posted on 08/27/2002 5:34:30 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart

 

Uh-huh, this town's full of money grabbers 
Go ahead, bite the Big Apple, don't mind the maggots, huh
Shadoobie, my brain's been battered

(I love it!)


39 posted on 08/27/2002 5:45:23 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: LarryLied
She's an artist too and I don't have to tell you about them.

Some artists are admirable people. Failed artists are usually that way because they are untalented. So they become bitter and spend their time lasing out at those for whom life has worked out.

40 posted on 08/27/2002 6:10:17 AM PDT by veronica
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To: LarryLied; dennisw; Cachelot; SJackson
And by the way, a Freeper told me you are an "artist" Mr. Lied. Is that so?
41 posted on 08/27/2002 6:13:02 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
Is there something you want to say to me, veronica? Don't be coy.
42 posted on 08/27/2002 6:18:31 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Neither of my comments were directed to you, as you can see by the fact that I did not ping you.
43 posted on 08/27/2002 6:33:33 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
Neither of my comments were directed to you, as you can see by the fact that I did not ping you.

How lame.

Larry was talking about me, and for some reason, so were you.

If you want to split hairs and say that because it was only directed "at" me that there was no need to direct it "to" me, suit yourself. You are certainly free to behave in as rude and dishonest a manner as you wish.

44 posted on 08/27/2002 6:51:13 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Larry was talking about me.

I know.

And for some reason, so were you.

No I wasn't. Don't be paranoid.

45 posted on 08/27/2002 6:56:46 AM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica
No I wasn't.

Then who WERE you talking about here?

She's an artist too and I don't have to tell you about them.

Some artists are admirable people. Failed artists are usually that way because they are untalented. So they become bitter and spend their time lasing out at those for whom life has worked out.

You wrote it, not me. What interpretation am I supposed to make, other than the obvious one?

46 posted on 08/27/2002 7:13:33 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart; veronica
Veronica has a long running dialogue with LarryLied. So do I for that matter.

I assure you that this has nothing to do with you being an artist. Her comments were not aimed at you.
47 posted on 08/27/2002 7:18:24 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: quebecois; AnAmericanMother
"Since the obvious impulse of the rich and powerful is to use their wealth and power to continue to accumulate more...this "noblesse oblige" is not something that is intuitive...but is rather something that must be taught by the person's parents, church, educators, etc. The case for this sort of thing is much easier to make when the downtrodden in a given society are of the same tribal unit as the powerful."

You folks are onto something here. It would seem as if, in the wealthy liberal mind, the concept of noblesse oblige toward one's own social inferiors (but racial equals) has somehow mutated into:

a. An overpowering sense of guilt toward so-called minorities.

b. An overweening sense of superiority toward supposed "social inferiors".

Somehow, I don't believe John D. would approve...

48 posted on 08/27/2002 7:25:56 AM PDT by okie01
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To: okie01
I think you're right -- they really have confused racial distinctions with social distinctions. The latter are FAR more important, because jumped-up trailer trash of ANY color is obnoxious no matter how much money it has, while decent God-fearing folks of ANY color are fine regardless of bank balance (ask around the South about "old blood and NO money". There are plenty of those folks, what I think the English call "gentlewomen in distressed circumstances." And, perhaps surprisingly to those not in the South, there are black families of old tradition, who sometimes have come down in the world, who are respected by all, black and white, for their integrity.)

These "nouveau trailer trash" (where did Grubman's family get their money anyhow?) just don't get it. The old rules used to be that you treated folks who didn't have as much money or power as you with courtesy and respect (NOT condescension, which is where Grubman and her ilk miss with even the racial distinction that they do recognize. They don't abuse people of another race, but they patronize and condescend. That doesn't hurt as badly, but it does make meaningful communication almost impossible.) In days not so long past, the question of race was largely congruent with money and power, but no more. It's a bit more of a minefield now (of course, if you treat EVERYONE with courtesy and respect, it's no problem, is it?)

49 posted on 08/27/2002 7:41:52 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: hellinahandcart; veronica; LarryLied
Is there something you want to say to me, veronica? Don't be coy.

We have all, I think, seen your work and know that you're an Artist. Just as we've seen LarryLied's work and know that he's an "artist". There's a difference, you know ;).

50 posted on 08/27/2002 7:43:39 AM PDT by Cachelot
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