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Satellite Search Underway For Noah's Ark
Space.com ^ | 8-30-2002 | Leonard David

Posted on 08/31/2002 7:15:41 PM PDT by blam

Satellite Search Underway For Noah's Ark

By Leonard David
Senior Space Writer
posted: 07:40 am ET
30 August 2002

A puzzling mountain-side object in Turkey is the target of a hide-and-seek game of biblical proportions.

The high-flying and super-powerful commercial QuickBird satellite has begun snapping imagery of Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey - in a quest to spot the possible remains of what is believed to be Noah's Ark.

Aircraft pictures taken in the late 1940s, as well as more recent secret spy satellite shots of the area do show something odd - a bit of strangeness that has earned the title of the "Ararat Anomaly".

QuickBird 2 satellite will use its super-powerful camera system to image Mt. Ararat in search for remains of Noah's ark. credit: EarthWatch Inc.

DigitalGlobe's powerful QuickBird satellite is cranking out ultra close-up imagery of Earth targets. As example, this picture shows the Eiffel Tower in Paris, France -- taken March 27, 2002-- and demonstrates the quality of pictures churned out by the high-flying satellite. Credit: DigitalGlobe

The search is on to identify that peculiar blemish in photographs.

Perhaps it's little more than a natural, albeit eye catching, geological formation. On the other hand, that anomaly could have a classic tale to tell, one that reaches back into biblical times.

On the lookout trail

Most Biblical scholars and Near Eastern archeologists and historians regard the Biblical accounting of Noah's Ark and a world-devastating flood as a story handed down by oral tradition.

As told in the Bible, Noah constructed a large boat to house his family and sets of animals, saving them from flood waters due to 40 days and 40 nights of deluge. Once this Great Flood retreated, as depicted in the Book of Genesis, the ark settled down on the mountains of Ararat.

On the lookout trail for the real deal is Porcher Taylor, a senior associate (nonresident) at the prominent think tank, the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington, D.C. He is an expert on satellite intelligence gathering and diplomacy.

Taylor has worked for years to compel the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to declassify satellite images and other information related to the unidentified feature perched on Mt. Ararat in Turkey.

Indeed, the secrecy wraps have come off a partial set of aerial images taken over that location in June 1949. They do show something at the 15,500-foot level on the mountain's Northwestern Plateau.

In later years, Taylor contends, two high-powered intelligence-gathering satellites -- the Keyhole-9 in 1973 and the Keyhole-11 in 1976 -- aimed their cameras at the mountain. What those photo shoots purportedly show created a stir amongst photo interpreters.

The anomaly is more than 600-feet long (183 meters), Taylor said, at least the section visible in aerial and satellite imagery. Photo interpretation specialists, he said, do think they perceive actual boat structure in the pictures.

Yet those images remain classified at the moment. Remaining unclassified, however, is Taylor's passion.

"I want to solve the enduring mystery of the Ararat Anomaly, no matter what it may be," he told SPACE.com

Peeking at the peak

Thanks to the advent of commercial remote sensing satellites, taking a peek at the object on Mt. Ararat for a fee is feasible.

In October 1999 into the summer of 2000, images of the mountain and the object in question were snapped by the IKONOS spacecraft, owned and operated by Space Imaging, based in Thornton, Colorado. Those pictures didn't resolve the issue, one way or the other, however.

Now the lenses of another commercial satellite, QuickBird, operated by DigitalGlobe of Longmont, Colorado is on the prowl. "QuickBird is capable of shedding more light on what the anomaly may or may not be," Taylor said.

QuickBird was lofted in October 2001 and is billed as the world's highest resolution commercial imaging satellite. It can see things 2-feet (61-centimeters) across.

"We have acquired four images of Mt. Ararat and all have been cloud covered to date," said Chuck Herring, Director of Marketing Communications for DigitalGlobe. "We continue to task this event and will get Porcher Taylor an image as soon as we get a good image," he told SPACE.com.

Clear sailing

Taylor is anxiously awaiting clear sailing by QuickBird over Mt. Ararat.

"Because of constant cloud cover it's tough. Where this thing is, whatever it is…it's basically a glacier, a permanent ice cap at 15,000 feet up on the mountain. It is a unique and unexplored site on Mt. Ararat. You're going to have to have ideal weather conditions and a lot of luck when you're flying over to see it," Taylor said.

Meanwhile, Taylor anticipates that when QuickBird does produce the imagery goods, he'll have more leverage to convince U.S. President Bush and his administration to declassify those earlier Keyhole satellite shots.

Taylor may not have to wait too long.

Next month, the National Imagery and Mapping Agency unveils a load of vintage Keyhole-7 and Keyhole-9 pictures, declassifying the images and making them available for public scrutiny. He hopes Mt. Ararat photos are among those being released.

Imagery team

Taylor has at the ready a "world class" imagery team, ready to huddle over any new QuickBird images or older Keyhole photos.

A leader in that team is Farouk El-Baz, research professor and founding director of Boston University's Center for Remote Sensing.

El-Baz first gained world attention for his work on the Apollo program. He served as secretary of the lunar landing site selection committee, chairman of the astronaut training group, and principal investigator for visual observations and photography.

A native of Egypt, El-Baz later served as a science advisor to Egyptian President Anwar Sadat and to King Hussein of Jordan.

He has been a pioneer in developing the field of remote sensing and is offering his expertise to what's truly resident on Mt. Ararat.

"There is absolutely enough hearsay…enough discussion about the topic to warrant looking into this, to see whether there is something tangible or not," El-Baz told SPACE.com.

Unveil the truth

El-Baz recounted his conversations with former Apollo 15 moonwalker James Irwin. The astronaut, now deceased, mounted six expeditions to Mt. Ararat in a search for the ark. Those treks were done through his High Flight Foundation, a non-profit evangelical organization based in Colorado Springs.

"Irwin told me he saw something. He felt it was an imprint on the land of the boat that was turned upside down…perhaps with some soil on top. So there was something there in his mind," El-Baz said.

El-Baz himself remains true to his training, waiting for scientific data to become available and help unveil the true nature of the Ararat object.

"There is absolutely nothing in all the pictures that we have seen up to now that is questionable in my mind. I can explain each and everything as a natural snow bank…a shadow. There is nothing," El-Baz said. But given the interest and the historical nature of such a find, the search is worth conducting, he added.

"From all the points of view, there is definitely enough in this to warrant spending time to resolve the issue, one way or the other. So I don't consider it a waste of time," El-Baz said.


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KEYWORDS: ark; noahs; noahsark; satellite
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I'll try to post a satellite image from the site. It would not post with the article.
1 posted on 08/31/2002 7:15:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Ikonos satellite image from November, 2000.

2 posted on 08/31/2002 7:17:48 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
This could be the big one, Blam!
3 posted on 08/31/2002 7:18:46 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: blam
Well, I'm convinced.
4 posted on 08/31/2002 7:19:25 PM PDT by gcruse
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To: blam
What I like about your posts Blam is that they are articles that I would have no chance of seeing otherwise.

Keep up the good work.
5 posted on 08/31/2002 7:25:39 PM PDT by APBaer
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To: blam
Check out this page on the Ark. lots of photos!

http://www.wyattarchaeology.com/noah.htm
6 posted on 08/31/2002 7:28:00 PM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: vannrox
ping. I read a lot of your threads. You might like this one from blam.
7 posted on 08/31/2002 7:34:21 PM PDT by evolved_rage
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To: gcruse
It's shocking proof.
8 posted on 08/31/2002 7:34:35 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: LostTribe; RightWhale; JudyB1938; ruoflaw; #3Fan; d4now
"This could be the big one, Blam!"

I don't think so. IMO, it didn't float there and 15,500 feet would be (almost) undoable to haul that much wood, supplies and etc up there.

9 posted on 08/31/2002 7:37:41 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Just a thought .... send someone up there in person to take a look at the site or is Turkey keeping people from it ?
10 posted on 08/31/2002 7:45:28 PM PDT by Centurion2000
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To: blam; William Terrell
I guess you know, but it is rarely mentioned, this is the same area occupied by the Lost Tribes of Israel as part of the Northern Kingdom evacuation by the Assyrians ~722 BC.  It is from all through here they exploded into history as The CELTS ~610 BC and dispersed to the west and northwest to become the dominant population force in Europe and America today.

While I don't know of any links between Noah and the Celts (except of course their blood link via Shem) which would explain their both being posted to this God-forsaken land, it does make for fascinating contemplation.

11 posted on 08/31/2002 7:45:33 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: blam
bump for some interesting reading
12 posted on 08/31/2002 7:55:48 PM PDT by JavaTheHutt
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To: LostTribe
"While I don't know of any links between Noah and the Celts (except of course their blood link via Shem) which would explain their both being posted to this God-forsaken land, it does make for fascinating contemplation."

Agreed. What date are you assuming for the flood?
Ryan & Pitman, Noah's Flood, propose that Noah's flood was in fact the Black Sea flood that occurred in about 5,600BC. (Then, of course, we have those tales from Gilgamesh's time to deal with)

13 posted on 08/31/2002 8:08:30 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
>Agreed. What date are you assuming for the flood?

I really don't have a date I feel strongly enough about to defend. I'll defer to you on this one, and feel comfortable with whatever you finally come up with. {ggg}. As long you continue looking, your going to find it.

14 posted on 08/31/2002 8:12:41 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: RadioAstronomer; longshadow
Ping!
15 posted on 08/31/2002 8:15:30 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: LostTribe
"I'll defer to you on this one, and feel comfortable with whatever you finally come up with. {ggg}.

You're in an unusual agreeable mood tonight. Wanna renew discussions about a 1628BC date for the (overland) Exodus? lol.

16 posted on 08/31/2002 8:19:20 PM PDT by blam
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To: LostTribe
While I don't know of any links between Noah and the Celts (except of course their blood link via Shem) which would explain their both being posted to this God-forsaken land, it does make for fascinating contemplation.

Spanking. For being bad boys and girls.

17 posted on 08/31/2002 8:25:17 PM PDT by William Terrell
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Thanks for the ping. I am quite familiar with the IKONOS and the pics it took. :-)
18 posted on 08/31/2002 8:25:37 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: blam
>You're in an unusual agreeable mood tonight.

Aw, shucks folks {blush}

>Wanna renew discussions about a 1628BC date for the (overland) Exodus? lol.

I still have to say that was a GREAT date (and occurance) to give some proto-Celts a cover to escape Egypt (by sea). No problem with that one at all.

19 posted on 08/31/2002 8:35:05 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: RadioAstronomer
I am quite familiar with the IKONOS and the pics it took.

Thought you might be... ;-)

20 posted on 08/31/2002 8:35:14 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: blam
Good post, but I doubt they will ever find an intact ark. It would be a wonder if they did. Imagine you are Noah and his family. Every tree as far as you can see has been wiped out in the flood. The ONLY source of timber for the first decade or so is the ark you came in. I would guess that it would have been raided for parts long ago.
21 posted on 08/31/2002 8:37:03 PM PDT by Ahban
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To: William Terrell
>Spanking. For being bad boys and girls.

That certainly is the case with the Lost Tribes of Israel/Celts. Noah got the best of his whole "Escape from New York" and "Adventure in Moving" by just getting out of it alive. The rest of those around certainly got the worst of it.

22 posted on 08/31/2002 8:38:40 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: Ahban
Imagine you are Noah and his family, and you just let out every vicious animal on the planet off the ark right at your campsite. They've got no place to go to find something to eat.

Pleasant dreams!

23 posted on 08/31/2002 8:41:30 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Ahban
"Good post, but I doubt they will ever find an intact ark. It would be a wonder if they did. Imagine you are Noah and his family. Every tree as far as you can see has been wiped out in the flood. The ONLY source of timber for the first decade or so is the ark you came in. I would guess that it would have been raided for parts long ago."

Could be just enough to make one throw in the towel (ahem) and hike on over to the Euphrates Valley.

24 posted on 08/31/2002 8:43:10 PM PDT by blam
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To: Centurion2000
As I recall, Ararat is located in a Kurd-controlled area of Turkey, neither of whom like foreigners having access to the area. Also, as I recall, Muslim tradition places Noah's ark in a different area: another reason for the Turkish and Kurdish Muslims to be reluctant about granting exploration permits for Ararat to Westerners.
25 posted on 08/31/2002 8:44:19 PM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: ovrtaxt; All
Check out the link in my profile...

Noah's Ark was found quite some time ago.

26 posted on 08/31/2002 8:45:01 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: blam
I doubt that they'll find anyone alive....maybe some dormat spores that will destroy us when they become active again.
27 posted on 08/31/2002 8:46:00 PM PDT by Consort
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To: blam
That's it? If there ever were such a boat, it would have been scavanged for timber long ago, as another poster said. The feature in the image is nothing but drifting snow.
28 posted on 08/31/2002 8:47:14 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: blam
Interesting!
29 posted on 08/31/2002 8:49:11 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: blam; LostTribe

30 posted on 08/31/2002 8:49:51 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: ovrtaxt
Cool website. Everything seems too perfect, though. Is this guy for real?
31 posted on 08/31/2002 8:51:27 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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"The feature in the image is nothing but drifting snow."

You actually saw something in that photo?

32 posted on 08/31/2002 8:55:22 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
You actually saw something in that photo?

Sure, but I also can see the Face on Mars if the light is right. Was that image of the Noah's Ark site?

33 posted on 08/31/2002 8:58:30 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: blam
Its in Genesis 6-8.

Who needs a satellite to find it?
34 posted on 08/31/2002 9:06:38 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: blam
>Could be just enough to make one throw in the towel (ahem) and hike on over to the Euphrates Valley.

HA! That's funny! (But good thinking.)

35 posted on 08/31/2002 9:08:47 PM PDT by LostTribe
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To: Ahban
Good post, but I doubt they will ever find an intact ark. It would be a wonder if they did. Imagine you are Noah and his family. Every tree as far as you can see has been wiped out in the flood. The ONLY source of timber for the first decade or so is the ark you came in. I would guess that it would have been raided for parts long ago.

Hmmm. Maybe not. The earth was covered for "40 days and 40 nights." Trees may not survive the deluge (or perhaps some did) but in any case, I think the wood would be good. Our Navy's most famous wooden sailing ship, the USS Consitutuin, was built with with timber from logs that had been sunk in a lake for seasoning. Or so I'd read in model-builder's guide for the vessel when I was a kid...

36 posted on 08/31/2002 10:10:41 PM PDT by BradyLS
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To: VaBthang4
I did look at your link, but still believe the Ark to be up high in Mt. Ararat. If the find was as conclusive as Ron Wyatt says, why wasn't it excavated and shared with the world. It certainly would be the biggest discovery in history???
37 posted on 08/31/2002 10:56:31 PM PDT by fabian
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To: fabian
"but still believe the Ark to be up high in Mt. Ararat"

Based on what, specifically?

38 posted on 08/31/2002 11:23:47 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: VaBthang4
Well, I read a book a while back called In Search of Noah's Ark I believe. The man and a young boy had eye witnessed the Ark up high and actually had photos of some timber and part of the Ark sticking out of the snow. It was pretty amazing and around the same location of the satelite images.
39 posted on 08/31/2002 11:41:54 PM PDT by fabian
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To: LostTribe
WWCoG?
40 posted on 08/31/2002 11:51:33 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: BradyLS
Our Navy's most famous wooden sailing ship, the USS Consitutuin, was built with with timber from logs that had been sunk in a lake for seasoning.

I don't know about sinking the logs for seasoning, but our family used to have a ledger book recording the fact that we sold some timbers to a shipbuilder to be used in the masts of the USS Constitution.

WFTR
Bill

41 posted on 09/01/2002 12:54:30 AM PDT by WFTR
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To: VaBthang4
Ah, you know about Wyatt already. I love the info on the Ark of the Covenant. I got to Wyatt from

http://www.finalfrontier.org.uk/

That guy is a doctor who has documented hundreds of near death experiences. First hand accounts of heaven and hell.
42 posted on 09/01/2002 3:48:43 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: stainlessbanner
Cool website. Everything seems too perfect, though. Is this guy for real?

Well, it sure seems like it. Especially check out the Ark of the Covenant stuff. Right at the end it slams you between the eyes.

Anyway, his info seems to be documented well enough. Im convinced that usually the great historical mysteries aren't that complicated at all. People just have a morbid fascination with the 'unexplained' aura of something. It's usually a bunch of crap, and the explanation is not so complex.

Also, I think that anything that validates Jesus as Messiah of Israel is going to be automatically discounted by people who don't want to face Him as the Truth.

43 posted on 09/01/2002 3:58:50 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: RightWhale
"Was that image of the Noah's Ark site?"

Yes.

44 posted on 09/01/2002 7:13:12 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
You actually saw something in that photo?

I thought it was my screensaver.

45 posted on 09/01/2002 7:19:16 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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>WWCoG?

 Hmmm. That shorthand is a little too short for me. What Was C(hrist)??? of God?

Is that close???    (Masonic?)

46 posted on 09/01/2002 8:32:03 AM PDT by LostTribe
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To: LostTribe
Sorry, WWCoG=World Wide Church… the Armstrong guy. They are very big on British Israelism.

I just took a look at your home page and saw that you say this is not what your views on this is about.

My apologies, I should have looked first.

47 posted on 09/01/2002 9:20:57 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: D-fendr
Thanks for looking again at my FR Profile page to see that I definitely have nothing to do with British Israelism. They are as far off base in one direction as those on the other side who say The Lost Tribes don't exist.

With the discovery and translation of those Assyrian clay Tablets in the British Museum, I hope the folly on both sides have been put to rest and what happened to The Lost Tribes of Israel has been clearly and firmly established.

-Regards

48 posted on 09/01/2002 9:44:21 AM PDT by LostTribe
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To: blam
The history of searching for the "ark" on Ararat has been a sordid tale of incompetence and fraud.

People should stop giving money to the various charletans claiming to have found it or almost found it....everything on Ararat consists of easily explained (and fairly common) geological formations. But, with a ready market of millions of people who really WANT an ark to be found, millions of dollars will be wasted on breathless documentaries and books.

49 posted on 09/01/2002 10:12:48 AM PDT by John H K
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To: blam
SOUNDS WONDERFUL.

I have long felt it would be [RE-]"discovered" in an end time sequence of events. We shall see.
50 posted on 09/01/2002 11:03:01 AM PDT by Quix
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