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Satellite Search Underway For Noah's Ark
Space.com ^ | 8-30-2002 | Leonard David

Posted on 08/31/2002 7:15:41 PM PDT by blam

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To: Pelham
Looking at your posts it's easy to see you are just a crowd follower. You haven't told us what you do believe, and why. At least you're not trying to pass yourself off as a thinker because that doesn't fit. Sounds more like the ranting of a common street "scoffer".
101 posted on 09/06/2002 7:31:11 AM PDT by PaulKersey
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To: PaulKersey
Ding!

Wrong guess, bucko. I'm not a crowd follower nor a scoffer. You're right that I haven't told you what I do believe, but that's about all you got right. Better brush up on your epistomology, unless wild guesses and petty insults are the best you can do.

102 posted on 09/07/2002 12:02:27 AM PDT by Pelham
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
You mean that all humankind descended from a common ancestor in Africa?

And you found this written where, exactly? Did the little voices tell you that this is what "normative history" means? Ignore them, they don't know what they're talking about.

Normative history, as I intended it, is the work of scholars like FF Bruce, CK Barrett, Gleason Archer, and the like.

103 posted on 09/07/2002 12:10:31 AM PDT by Pelham
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
I wonder how many have actually read, let alone understood, what the bible really says......

Ephraim and Manasseh were given the birthright blessings. There really has been no other nations that reflect those blessings other than Britain(B'rith-ish: Covenant Man) and the United States.

Genesis 48:1
And it came to pass after these things, that one told Joseph, Behold, thy father is sick: and he took with him his two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim.
48:2
And one told Jacob, and said, Behold, thy son Joseph cometh unto thee: and Israel strengthened himself, and sat upon the bed.
48:3
And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me,
48:4
And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people; and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession.
48:5
And now thy two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, which were born unto thee in the land of Egypt before I came unto thee into Egypt, are mine; as Reuben and Simeon, they shall be mine.
48:6
And thy issue, which thou begettest after them, shall be thine, and shall be called after the name of their brethren in their inheritance.
48:7
And as for me, when I came from Padan, Rachel died by me in the land of Canaan in the way, when yet there was but a little way to come unto Ephrath: and I buried her there in the way of Ephrath; the same is Bethlehem.
48:8
And Israel beheld Joseph's sons, and said, Who are these?
48:9
And Joseph said unto his father, They are my sons, whom God hath given me in this place. And he said, Bring them, I pray thee, unto me, and I will bless them.
48:10
Now the eyes of Israel were dim for age, so that he could not see. And he brought them near unto him; and he kissed them, and embraced them.
48:11
And Israel said unto Joseph, I had not thought to see thy face: and, lo, God hath shewed me also thy seed.
48:12
And Joseph brought them out from between his knees, and he bowed himself with his face to the earth.
48:13
And Joseph took them both, Ephraim in his right hand toward Israel's left hand, and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel's right hand, and brought them near unto him.
48:14
And Israel stretched out his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim's head, who was the younger, and his left hand upon Manasseh's head, guiding his hands wittingly; for Manasseh was the firstborn.
48:15
And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day,
48:16
The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
48:17
And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased * him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.
48:18
And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
48:19
And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.
48:20
And he blessed them that day, saying, In thee shall Israel bless, saying, God make thee as Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set Ephraim before Manasseh.
48:21
And Israel said unto Joseph, Behold, I die: but God shall be with you, and bring you again unto the land of your fathers.
48:22
Moreover I have given to thee one portion above thy brethren, which I took out of the hand of the Amorite with my sword and with my bow.


49:1
And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.
49:2
Gather yourselves together, and hear, ye sons of Jacob; and hearken unto Israel your father.
49:3
Reuben, thou art my firstborn, my might, and the beginning of my strength, the excellency of dignity, and the excellency of power:
49:4
Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father's bed; then defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch.
49:5
Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments of cruelty are in their habitations.
49:6
O my soul, come not thou into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honour, be not thou united: for in their anger they slew a man, and in their selfwill they digged down a wall.
49:7
Cursed be their anger, for it was fierce; and their wrath, for it was cruel: I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel.
49:8
Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee.
49:9
Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up ?
49:10
The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
49:11
Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:
49:12
His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.
49:13
Zebulun shall dwell at the haven of the sea; and he shall be for an haven of ships; and his border shall be unto Zidon.
49:14
Issachar is a strong ass couching down between two burdens:
49:15
And he saw that rest was good, and the land that it was pleasant; and bowed his shoulder to bear, and became a servant unto tribute.
49:16
Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.
49:17
Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.
49:18
I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD.
49:19
Gad, a troop shall overcome him: but he shall overcome at the last.
49:20
Out of Asher his bread shall be fat, and he shall yield royal dainties.
49:21
Naphtali is a hind let loose: he giveth goodly words.
49:22
Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:
49:23
The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:
49:24
But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)
49:25
Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:
49:26
The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.
49:27
Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil.
49:28
All these are the twelve tribes of Israel: and this is it that their father spake unto them, and blessed them; every one according to his blessing he blessed them.
104 posted on 09/07/2002 12:51:37 AM PDT by ALS
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To: Pelham
I'm not a crowd follower nor a scoffer.

Your posts tell another story. They also say you are not an original thinker, but rely on name dropping to try and give the impression of wisdom.

105 posted on 09/07/2002 4:54:20 PM PDT by PaulKersey
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To: ALS
Ephraim and Manasseh were given the birthright blessings. There really has been no other nations that reflect those blessings other than Britain (and the United States.

Yes, as I understand it, the Birthright went via Joseph right to his sons. The tribe of Ephriam was the kingpin in controlling the Ten Tribes, and the great nations (and kings) of europe grew out of those Ten Tribes, just as forecast.

106 posted on 09/07/2002 5:03:48 PM PDT by PaulKersey
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To: PaulKersey
Okay genius, what exactly is it that you find to be "scoffing"? My asking for sources and citations? I don't read minds, so why don't you tell me what has your shorts in a twist instead of making vague and pointless ad hominems.
107 posted on 09/08/2002 1:32:01 AM PDT by Pelham
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To: Pelham
Okay genius, what exactly is it that you find to be "scoffing"? My asking for sources and citations?

And you received them. If you don't agree, so be it. When you get nasty because someone's opinion goes against your pet scholars' opinion, you should expect such a reaction.

108 posted on 09/09/2002 6:51:31 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation
Actually you haven't posted any sources. Merely claiming that you have done so isn't surprising, since you can't find any scholars who validate that nonsense.
109 posted on 09/11/2002 11:44:50 PM PDT by Pelham
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