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Fearless Flyers Shut Down
vanity | 9-3-02 | Matthew B. Rogers

Posted on 09/03/2002 4:58:19 PM PDT by Fearless Flyers

Fearless Flyers Kites has shut down production and needs help finding new supplyers

After a life time of designing and creating custom hand painted kites Fearless Flyers Kite Company has shut down production due to an inability to find conservative supplyers.

Fearless Flyers makes tie dye cotton and hand painted silk kites. This is a one man operation, that has unfortunately been acquiring materials from Dharma Trading Company. The vendor appears to be in the same district as Berkeley California and supports the same ideals, as discovered when an enquiry was made with two different sales people, during the last attempt to make purchases.

Fearless Flyers has placed orders for material once every sixteen months in the past, but has currently been building a business that calls for more frequent purchases. The purchasing power of the company has increased ten fold in the last year.

Fearless Flyers is now searching for vendors that can supply cotton and silk fabric along with silk dyes for hand painting and procion dyes for tie dye.

It would be very much appreciated if anyone has any suggestions for conservative venders or at least vendors outside the Berkeley voting district that could supply Fearless Flyers.

Matthew does not want to go into a career that requires him to memorize the phrase “Would you like fries with that”.

Sincerely Matthew B. Rogers Deerfield Beach, FL


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: cotton; dyes; silk

1 posted on 09/03/2002 4:58:19 PM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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To: Fearless Flyers
While I admire his moral conviction, I can't say the same for Matthew's spelling skills. The word is "supplier."

That, however, is all the help I can offer.

2 posted on 09/03/2002 5:07:54 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: Fearless Flyers
supports the same ideals, as discovered when an enquiry[sic] was made with two different sales people, during the last attempt to make purchases.

I don't get it.
After a "life time" of business, he just recently found out that his suppliers support the same ideals, and now it's so important that he'll go out of business rather than deal with people who don't believe the same things?
Why wasn't it important during the "life time" before?

3 posted on 09/03/2002 5:19:03 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne
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To: Izzy Dunne
I've used Dharma before, back when I had a little side business going doing tye-die. A little more expensive than a wholesale place, but they actually do a good job at customer service.

Who cares what their political leanings are? You're not going to find many places doing dyes that are right-wing.

If it bothers you so much, raise your prices a little and donate the difference to the NRA or some other worthwhile cause. It'll give you a secret little chuckle when you sell something to a birk wearing, patchouli smelling, dread sporting, Nader voting vegan trustafarian. :)
4 posted on 09/03/2002 6:04:29 PM PDT by cryptical
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To: cryptical
Absolutely!

I have a second business involving dyed wool. Dharma is a great supplier. How could you see the catalog even once and not figure out where they are coming from?

Besides: they are capitalists!

I have tried many other sources and they are all more expensive and have less selection and they are all old hippies, no exception.

Do you vet your customers' politics, too? Who do you think buys tie-dyed kites?
5 posted on 09/03/2002 7:32:43 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Fearless Flyers
Kudos to you for putting your personal values and integrity first. Or as they say, putting your money where your mouth is. IMHO, it is the lack of this that is the root of many of the problems in our beloved country today. It seems many modern Conservative’s values stop at their portfolio.

I'm a retired Senior Project Manager for Customer Relationship Management (CRM) systems. These systems integrate the operational and technological facets of marketing, sales and customer service.

Let me know if I can help in any way.

Good luck, S4T.
6 posted on 09/04/2002 7:02:21 AM PDT by Search4Truth
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To: Izzy Dunne; IronJack; cryptical; reformedliberal; Search4Truth; stylin_geek; Joe Brower; dorben; ...
After going from spending a few hundred dollars a year, I am now to spending a few thousand dollars a quarter. That makes a big difference in my purchasing power. This is my first purchase with that power and the first since 911.

It made me consider who I’m doing business with. Not to mention they were not being very accommodating during my last contact, as someone has said that Dharma is always accommodating.

After a day of searching with the help and encouragement of some like minded Freepers I discovered not only do I not have to support Dharma, but I can also save more then a dollar per yard on material. That’s more then $250 on this order, and over $1,000 during the course of the year. I still have some enquiries out there that have not yet responded and I’m sure there are even better deals on the cotton fabrics I use, yet to come in.

I also found a less expensive supplier for the Jaquard Green Label dyes I use for silk and the procion mx dyes I use for batik and tie dye. I’m aware that Jaquard is a French company, but I haven’t found a better product yet, and the dyes they sell here in the U.S. are made here through licensing with Rupert, Gibbon & Spider, so they do support U.S. workers. But I am still looking into what voting district Healdsburg California is in.

I will continue to search for the best products to serve my customers, and what impact I can make with my purchasing power as small as it may be.

Speaking as a product from the social revolution (gag) I can tell you that not all of us are old hippies and many of us still love tie dye, as is evident by the increase in my customers during the past year.

I’d like to thank everyone that supported me and helped out in my search. You all have my respect and gratitude.

Now that this headache is about over, I can start to concentrate on another issue that should concern us all, The Sawgrass Rebellion.

http://www.sawgrassrebellion.org/

Sincerely Matthew B. Rogers
7 posted on 09/04/2002 2:02:47 PM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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To: Fearless Flyers
Matthew, if you have a conservative (or non Progressive) source that is less expensive for Procion mx and Acid Dyes, please post it for us.

I do agree w/your reaction to the *social revolution* & appreciate the Sawgrass Rebellion link
8 posted on 09/04/2002 3:00:38 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: IronJack
Bump for doing business with like minded people . We all have a spellchecker my friend . It comes with windows . Thanks just the same .
9 posted on 09/04/2002 9:45:21 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: reformedliberal
I vet my clients long before they become clients . As a reformed liberal I think you get it .
10 posted on 09/04/2002 9:51:38 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: Search4Truth
If I could look you in the eye and shake your hand tonight it would be an honour to do so . I tip my hat off to you Sir and thank you for walking the walk .
11 posted on 09/04/2002 9:57:29 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: Fearless Flyers
Matt ,
You know Dorel and you have been to my home several times . Dorel is multi networked in her retired profession .
She is a resource you need to taproot into . Lets get together on the morrow and find a solution . We can do this my friend .
12 posted on 09/04/2002 10:05:42 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: Crusher138; Amore; MinuteGal; 3D-JOY; Boatlawyer
You people know someone who might know someone else who is able to assist ?
13 posted on 09/04/2002 10:09:28 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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FRee market interest at all ?
14 posted on 09/04/2002 10:21:40 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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How 'boot you folks . 'Ya know someone who knows someone ?
15 posted on 09/04/2002 10:24:27 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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'Ya have a minute or 3 to spare for this man ? Can you make a call or send a FReepmail at your leisure ?
16 posted on 09/04/2002 10:34:08 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: dorben
Do what you will folks . Tomorrow is a new day to serve .
17 posted on 09/04/2002 10:40:24 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: dorben; Fearless Flyers
Matt, I wish I knew someone to help you but I don't. I also wish I had some brilliant idea anyway, but, at the moment, I am still half asleep.
18 posted on 09/05/2002 2:05:16 AM PDT by summer
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To: dorben
Fearless Flyers

Sorry, I have nothing to add to your search.

I hope another "Freeper" is the recipient of your business!

I applaud your effort!
19 posted on 09/05/2002 8:54:44 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: reformedliberal
Here is link for procion dyes that is not Dharma.
they are cheaper then dharma by about fifty cents in the 2.5 oz size. I didn't check all the colors and prices do change depending on color.

http://www.fabricstodyefor.com/

I'll be out the rest of the day, let me know if I can be of any further help.

Matthew
20 posted on 09/05/2002 8:57:11 AM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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To: dorben
Thanks Ben,

I'm kinda rushed right now, have some work outside the house today, but I'll hook up with you tonight online during Radio Free Republic.

I always appreciate your help and freindship.

Matthew
21 posted on 09/05/2002 9:01:16 AM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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To: Fearless Flyers; dorben
Ben:

Thank you for your kind words sir. I expect it would be my honor as well. Do you know if Freerepublic has a listing of purveyors who would prefer to do business with like-minded people? It would seem like an outstanding idea. Could create a ping list.

Matthew:

Have you considered some targeted e-mailings? I'm not referring to Spam, which many ISP's are now blocking anyway. But a one-time Opt-In list of e-mails. 100,000 may be a good start, but you would not want to greatly exceed your ability to deliver. With this initial sampling, and what it would tell you about your target market, you could then ramp-up your marketing as your ability to deliver was increased. It is best to start with as wide of a net as possible. It is always better for production to catch-up with marketing, than the other way around.

Then there is eBay. Have you considered that? I’ve setup a store there so let me know if you want to know more about that.

They aren't any ethical issues with either of these methods. And your product is such an easy sales cycle, nothing to it. Some pictures, some testimonials, perhaps a video, and they either buy it or not. I’d virtually kill for a product like this to sell in the Internet age. Plus, there are no warranties, support or training. Cash-and-Carry.

Your offering would be ideal for either of these strategies in that it has such a broad appeal. And I expect you would not mind expanding your line if the demand was there. Not a lot of qualification of prospects with either of these strategies. Just about anyone is a potential customer, especially with the holiday season coming up. It makes a great Holiday Gift!

As a Project Manager, I was never directly involved in sourcing these kinds of services, but have used variations on these strategies to great success for many companies. Let me know if you want me to research it for you.

If it works out for you then we can talk about some kind of remuneration. I am a Capitalist too after all. LOL.

I hope I have not been too presumptuous with my essay? I just have a lot of time on my hands and miss doing the work I used to do. But I had to leave the Consulting industry 2 years ago for same reasons that everyone is becoming aware of now in the media.

Good luck with your enterprise. Sounds like a labor of love.

Regards, S4T.
22 posted on 09/05/2002 4:00:19 PM PDT by Search4Truth
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