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Oppose Bush's Power Grab
King Features Syndicate ^ | 09/09/02 | Charley Reese

Posted on 09/08/2002 11:26:24 PM PDT by GalvestonBeachcomber

Americans who value the Constitution should stand with Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., and oppose George Bush's attempted power grab in conjunction with establishing a Department of Homeland Security.

The Bushies are trying to frame the debate as either protecting bureaucracy or providing security for Americans. In fact, the debate is about preventing an authoritarian president from sacrificing the Constitution in the name of providing security.

Let me remind you that those who prefer security to freedom will lose both.

Bush wants to be able to disregard labor contracts and civil-service rules, as well as move money within the department as he pleases. He claims that this is necessary for national security or, to use his current Orwellian phrase, homeland security.

Bull.

The Constitution is quite clear. Congress has sole authority to write the laws, including the civil-service laws and those involving labor contracts. Congress has the sole authority to authorize and appropriate money. So what Mr. Bush wants is to disregard the Constitution and bully Congress into ceding its constitutional authority to the executive branch. The mopes in the House have already done that, but a few of the Democrats in the Senate are resisting it.

We have had ignorant men occupy the presidency several times, but none, I think, as ignorant of the Constitution and as disinclined toward freedom as George Bush.

He made a Freudian slip one day in an offhand remark to the press. He said, "I think Americans ought to be allowed to express their opinions." Ought to be allowed? Ought to be allowed? Hey, Mr. President, read the First Amendment. We have the God-given right to express our opinions, whether you and your government think we should be "allowed" to do so or not. Allowed my foot.

The whole idea of this Department of Homeland Security is silly anyway. Anyone who thinks that sweeping thousands of employees from where they are now into one department is going to improve anything doesn't know much about government. I've lived through a government reorganization, and it results in more employees and less efficiency.

Besides, the two key organizations necessary for homeland security — the FBI and the CIA — are excluded and will remain where they are. That doesn't make sense, frankly, though consolidating the Border Patrol and Customs certainly does. Just don't expect it to be a panacea. It will take months and months to sort it all out after the legislation creates it.

But don't buy this hokum that unless Bush can ride roughshod over the rights of federal employees and ignore the separation of powers, he can't protect the American people. He can't anyway, and this is just another example of his imperial mind-set.

Civil-service laws were enacted to protect federal employees from being abused by politicians who would fire and transfer them to make room for patronage jobs or extort campaign contributions from them. Nothing that involves national security necessitates those protections being removed.

It's odd that Mr. Bush, unable to face the truth that our own Middle East policy is responsible for Sept. 11, would claim that terrorists hate us because we are free. The greatest threat to American freedom today is not Osama bin Laden but George W. Bush, who, if he is even aware of its existence, seems to think the Constitution is just an antiquated piece of parchment that belongs in a museum.

Every abuse of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in this and the previous century has been done in the name of security. It is the common excuse of those who prefer power to freedom.


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Bush's grab for power is equivalent to Hillary's grab at the health care system.

Make no mistake: Bush is NOT a conservative. We would do well to make this bird a one-termer if the Republicans can come up with a strong opponent for whatever the dems offer. Of course this won't happen; Republican elitists are no better than democratic elitiests. Personal power is their prime consideration.

1 posted on 09/08/2002 11:26:24 PM PDT by GalvestonBeachcomber
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Bush is NOT a conservative.

I too have my reservations about Bush. He has let many leftist Bills pass his desk that should have received a crushing VETO. But I doubt any President will ever be elected in this country (or any other) that is conservative enough to please my taste.

2 posted on 09/08/2002 11:45:40 PM PDT by Pontiac
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Americans who value the Constitution should stand with Sen. Robert Byrd.... who is a former Klansman who I'm sure totally respected the constitution. lol
4 posted on 09/08/2002 11:58:03 PM PDT by GOPyouth
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
It's odd that Mr. Bush, unable to face the truth that our own Middle East policy is responsible for Sept. 11...

This is what it all comes down to for Charlie and his friends on the right. His hatred for America and Israel is so thorough that he will make excuses for mass-murder. Truly pathetic.

5 posted on 09/09/2002 12:10:18 AM PDT by Friedrich Hayek
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Who is your great "conservative" savior that will save us from this Bush menace?
6 posted on 09/09/2002 12:13:22 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
it should say fear out of control, unconstitutional government, and those who operate it.

BS!

This scrap with the Senate is about union representation.

There are some depts. being folded into the Homeland Security Agency that have outlandish perks. The worst one is that they cannot be transfered, demoted or canned without a union review that takes a average of a year or more.

Bush only wants to give them the same union rights that the DOD and FBI currently have so that he can steamline the agency and move folks around.

The dept. making the most fuss is not suprisingly the friggin Immigration and customs depts.(The absolutely worst ones we have!)

Now you know why changes take forever or are not even attempted in these pariah depts. You can't fire em or transfer the dummies without union approval.

Bush is not asking for much. The dems are making a political issue out of this and you have bought it hook, line and sinker. (plus the bobber)

7 posted on 09/09/2002 12:14:31 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
You are wasting your breath...trust me. Facts only spoil a good lynching.
8 posted on 09/09/2002 12:16:21 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
YUP! But I have had a terrible day and I have got to vent on someone.:-)
9 posted on 09/09/2002 12:18:15 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
The Bushies...

I stopped right there. Somebody else let me know if Reese typed one word worth reading.

10 posted on 09/09/2002 12:19:22 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
I take it, that you revel in Dem presidents, then and that you and Charlie wear sackclothe and ashes everyday, because we are all just sooooooooooooooo horrid. Well, you and he are on the wrong side of this one.
11 posted on 09/09/2002 12:21:03 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Let me remind you.....

Anyone who will stand with Robert Byrd is a fool.

12 posted on 09/09/2002 12:22:36 AM PDT by paul51
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
We have had ignorant men occupy the presidency several times, but none, I think, as ignorant of the Constitution and as disinclined toward freedom as George Bush.

The smartest president we have ever had, as the Clintonista's say, knew the Constitution like the back of his hand and look how he treated it. In case you forgot, the butler looking after the Oval Office restroom spent a considerable amout of time picking pieces of it after our genius president wiped love juice on it.

13 posted on 09/09/2002 12:23:41 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: Timesink
He NEVER does, anymore.
14 posted on 09/09/2002 12:24:16 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Texasforever
Who is your great "conservative" savior that will save us from this Bush menace?

Even Ross Perot would be better than what we have.

15 posted on 09/09/2002 12:36:19 AM PDT by GalvestonBeachcomber
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
That's what I thought just another man without a plan. Just whine, bitch and stomp your feet.
16 posted on 09/09/2002 12:39:47 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Boy oh boy, are YOU ever on the WRONG web site, if you are THIS blinkered and ill informed !

You think that Ross is even a Conservative ? After having made his money through government contracts ... for decades ? You think that he , tinfoiled, beyond belief, is superior, in any way, to President Bush ? WOW ... do YOU need help and quickly !

17 posted on 09/09/2002 12:40:27 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Boy oh boy, are YOU ever on the WRONG web site, if you are THIS blinkered and ill informed ! You think that Ross is even a Conservative ? After having made his money through government contracts ... for decades ? You think that he , tinfoiled, beyond belief, is superior, in any way, to President Bush ? WOW ... do YOU need help and quickly !

Or Pat Buchannan!

18 posted on 09/09/2002 12:43:56 AM PDT by GalvestonBeachcomber
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To: nopardons
Last I heard old Ross was under 24 hour care since that "incident" with his daughter's wedding. I think Lyndon LaRouche is still available; he missed his ride on the Hale-Bopp mother ship. Is John Anderson still around? Maybe they can re-animate Huey Long.
19 posted on 09/09/2002 12:47:40 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
ROTFLMSO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Long is long dead and I doubt he can be resurected , Ross was on T.V. today, and sounded nuts as ever ( the men in the white coats , were waiting for him , in the " green room", I'm sure ! ),Anderson is also dead, and isn't LaRouche in jail ? :-)

20 posted on 09/09/2002 12:52:19 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Pat ? Now really, dear, you are attempting to be funny ; aren't you ? Pat, Pat Buchannan, the man, who said on T.V. that he REALLY didn't ever mean everything he said to his followers, but he said it anyeay ... that Pat ?

I, unlike you, are on the right web site. I, unlike you, have spent my time here learning as much as I possibly could, about everything and everyone and THEN made up my mind. I, unlike you, understand what political reality is , can spot a charlatan ( Liberal AND supposed Conservatative ) almost instantly, and don't cotton to demagouges of any stripe. I, unlike you, know the difference between a glib, bloviating populist, and a Conservative.

Pat and Ross and everyother fringer, whom you can come up with, all together, couldn't do as well a job, as President Bush has done thus far. I am far from agreeing with everything that he has said and done; however, give the man his due ... he's a better president than his father was and a far better president than you give him credit for being.

21 posted on 09/09/2002 1:02:07 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Timesink
You made it that far? The first line about made me retch (but I'm from West Virginia so...).

The day I stand with Byrd, I'll know I'm in hell.

22 posted on 09/09/2002 1:38:47 AM PDT by itzmygun
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Americans who value the Constitution should stand with Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va... Do we bring our own white sheets, crosses, and gasoline, or does Kluxer Byrd provide them? Byrd has less legitimacy on any issue than Teddy "I killed my pregnant girlfriend" Kennedy...and that is not saying much.
23 posted on 09/09/2002 2:29:49 AM PDT by Young Rhino
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Bush's grab for power is equivalent to Hillary's grab at the health care system.

So, a blatant socialist attempt to nationalize 1/7 of the US economy is "equivalent" to someone attempting to defend America from both external enemies and incompetent union goons, huh?

Charley and the other Paleo-kooks have finally gone off the deep end. Hope you enjoy it out there with him.

24 posted on 09/09/2002 2:35:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus
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To: wirestripper
The INS is a mess and they have to rely on unions to decide what to do --yet the president and his administration take the flak for its failures. It is unbelievable that unions run this government and that inept people can stay on the dole for life. The democrats certainly should know this--yet they fail to fix it. Imagine combining all the departments and the union decides who can be fired or who can be moved around and the president needs to wait for their decision. Perhaps one needs to look at how these unions have contributed to the incompetence of the INS.
25 posted on 09/09/2002 4:10:58 AM PDT by olliemb
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To: nopardons
Ditto and a far better president than Clinton. Big Time!
26 posted on 09/09/2002 4:15:38 AM PDT by olliemb
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To: Pontiac
Sure and you would like for the Clintons to be in charge again, right?
27 posted on 09/09/2002 4:20:41 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Ridiculous. Bush cannot order us into anything. To win this war he needs volunteers. End of story.
28 posted on 09/09/2002 4:21:52 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Friedrich Hayek
It's odd that Mr. Bush, unable to face the truth that our own Middle East policy is responsible for Sept. 11....

Charlie agrees with the far right AND the far left. Yup, it's "blame the victim" time, a page stolen from those professional victims, the Palestinians, that Saudi prince that was going to donate $10 million to NYC until he blamed us & Rudy refused the money, the French (of course), and the rest of the "We Hate America" folks.

29 posted on 09/09/2002 4:23:17 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: olliemb
Perhaps one needs to look at how these unions have contributed to the incompetence of the INS.

Oh, they have! But the unionized newspapers won't print it! The unionized networks won't air it! The unionized publishers won't buy it!

30 posted on 09/09/2002 4:30:21 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: nopardons; GalvestonBeachcomber
Boy oh boy, are YOU ever on the WRONG web site

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----------------------------------------------------------- Nopardons, you really should remove your blinders ask yourself who is on the wrong web site.

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31 posted on 09/09/2002 4:45:28 AM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: NMC EXP
You aren't Jim Robinson, you are cherrypicking and then MISUSING Jim's words, and need help in simple reading comprehension, dear. In case you haven't noticed it, words have set meanings, those meanings are NOT open to interpration, and I suggest ( highly ) , that you ask Jim Rob just what exactly he means by that statement. It's more than obvious, that you don't unbderstand it. :-)
32 posted on 09/10/2002 12:49:45 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You aren't Jim Robinson

True.

you are cherrypicking and then MISUSING Jim's words, and need help in simple reading comprehension, dear.

False.

In case you haven't noticed it, words have set meanings, those meanings are NOT open to interpration

In this case you should substitute "phrases" for "words".

and I suggest ( highly ) , that you ask Jim Rob just what exactly he means by that statement. It's more than obvious, that you don't unbderstand [sic] it. :-)

My reading comprehension is just fine. I scored in the 95+ percentile in both the SAT and ACT back in 1969 before the tests were dumbed down.

The FreeRepublic mission statement I cited may no longer be operative. That is Jim Robinson's decision. The decision to ban posters because of philosophical differences is his as well, not yours.

Why are you intimidated by ideas and opinions different than your own?

Regards

J.R.

33 posted on 09/10/2002 4:09:18 AM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: NMC EXP
Did you even read this sophomoric nonsense?

He said, "I think Americans ought to be allowed to express their opinions." Ought to be allowed? Ought to be allowed? Hey, Mr. President, read the First Amendment. We have the God-given right to express our opinions, whether you and your government think we should be "allowed" to do so or not. Allowed my foot.

This moron doesn't even realize that Bush is commenting on Congress' running roughshod over the desires of the electorate. From that moronic misunderstanding he goes on the most juvenile of rants that is below even the standards of a rant on DU, let alone FR.

My reading comprehension is just fine. I scored in the 95+ percentile in both the SAT and ACT back in 1969 before the tests were dumbed down.

I don't want to take you away from any more of your very difficult work in aerospace engineering, but let me just point out to your powerful brain that percentile rankings are independent of the difficulty of the test. If you need a further explanation to avoid interrupting your quantum physics calculations, feel free to ask.

34 posted on 09/10/2002 4:24:39 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: AmishDude
This moron doesn't even realize that Bush is commenting on Congress' running roughshod over the desires of the electorate

You and George the 2nd -- govern by the polls, not the Constitution.

Regards

J.R.

35 posted on 09/10/2002 4:56:13 AM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: NMC EXP
And unions are in the Constitution . . . where? And where does it forbid fedgov employees from getting fired?

Tell me, oh wise and knowledgable one.

36 posted on 09/10/2002 6:03:02 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Bush's "grab for power" is no different than powers given to Presidents all along. It's just that the Dems and other nut heads want to change it. The Dept. of Homeland Security is NOT the place to do that kind of thing. Try another, less critical, dept. to elevate the labor unions and so forth.
37 posted on 09/10/2002 6:11:38 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
"It's odd that Mr. Bush, unable to face the truth that our own Middle East policy is responsible for Sept. 11."

Well, let's see. 09/11/01 took place about 9 months after Bush took office. It is said the event took a couple of years to plan. Who was President when the terrorists decided to move forward with this? Oh, yeah, Clinton. So if 'our' policy was responsible for this, blame Clinton, not Bush.

38 posted on 09/10/2002 6:14:01 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
"Americans who value the Constitution should stand with Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., and oppose George Bush's attempted power grab in conjunction with establishing a Department of Homeland Security."

That'll be the day! I don't envision standing with the Democraps on anything!

39 posted on 09/10/2002 6:14:15 AM PDT by The Scorpion King
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
"Even Ross Perot would be better than what we have."

LOL!

Oh, you're serious?

Seek professional help, my friend.

40 posted on 09/10/2002 6:16:06 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
What claptrap!
41 posted on 09/10/2002 6:16:44 AM PDT by verity
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To: Cincinatus; JohnHuang2; rdb3
Paleo-conservatism sounds like something that should be studied by paleontologists.

Neo-conservative and PROUD OF IT!!!
42 posted on 09/10/2002 7:13:31 AM PDT by hchutch
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To: Friedrich Hayek
This is what it all comes down to for Charlie and his friends on the far-and-idiotic right.

There. That's better.

43 posted on 09/10/2002 7:21:34 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
What drama queens you all are!
44 posted on 09/10/2002 7:26:32 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Catspaw
Charlie agrees with the far right AND the far left.

The far-right and far-left overlap! Neither understands where the boundaries are as long as their tactics justify what they believe (which more and more are the exact same thing).

If I say something in which someone like Hillary! or Kluxer Byrd would support, I need to step back and reevaluate my position.

45 posted on 09/10/2002 7:27:57 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
"Homeland Security" is pretty vague as to what it's goals are, so far I understand it to be cramming all the incompetence under one umbrella. I have no problem with Bush being able to hire and fire, Federal employee protections as far as I can see means a lout can't be fired and is imboldened to sabotage the administration in power's agenda. I wouldn't trust this ability in Clintons hands.

So, to me, Homeland Security is something quickly thrown together as evidence of the administration "doing something" about terrorism, while actually not really doing anything about terrorism. There will never be "Homeland Security" until people from terrorist nations are banned from coming here.

46 posted on 09/10/2002 7:42:44 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Make no mistake: Bush is NOT a conservative.

      From reading postings, too many conservatives do make that very mistake.  As I recall, Bush 41 was generally recognized as a liberal until Ronald Reagan designated him as his running mate.  Suddenly, overnight, the chameleon changed its colors, and began speaking as a conservative, but still doing as a liberal. 
      Bush 43 is following the pattern.  On his last day in office, Clinton issued a massive set of executive orders.  When G.W. took office he thought it best to review these orders instead of recinding them.  Since then, he has recinded - how many?
      Both major parties have been hijacked by globalist liberals!  The only difference is that Democrats are a little more honest about it.  The Republican Party is the best chance to restore Constitutional conservatism, but not as long as gullible conservatives continue to nominate wolves in sheep's clothing.
47 posted on 09/10/2002 12:04:10 PM PDT by Celtman
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To: AmishDude
As a result of your insecurity and low self esteem you become a keyboard Walter Mitty. Full of bluster and bravado in a futile attempt to bolster your flaccid ego.

An easy thing to do in the world of 1's and 0's. I suspect you are not at all confrontational during eyeball to eyeball debates in the meat world.

Assuming you engage in such debates.

Regards

J.R.
48 posted on 09/10/2002 7:54:15 PM PDT by NMC EXP
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To: NMC EXP
And you are . . . ?

And your point is . . . ?

No, really, I forget, what the subject was that you are trying to change?

49 posted on 09/10/2002 7:59:02 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: GOPyouth
Just for kids!
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You in there, Robert?


50 posted on 09/10/2002 8:11:28 PM PDT by rockfish59
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