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Muslim conference: Islam under assault
United Press International ^ | 9/8/2002 | Paul Schemm

Posted on 09/09/2002 1:27:55 PM PDT by GaryMontana

CAIRO, Sept. 8 (UPI) -- A year after Sept. 11, thousands across the Islamic world perceive their religion to be under assault and may take up arms against the United States, experts said Sunday at a conference on Islam in Cairo.

The conference entitled "The Islamist movement after the events of September 11" was organized by lawyer Montasser Zayat, long known as the de facto spokesman of the Gamaa Islamiya, one of Egypt's largest militant organizations. Featured speakers included several prominent Islamist thinkers and analysts.

"September 11 affected different Islamist groups in different ways," explained Dia Rashwan, an analyst of political Islam with the state-run Al Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies. Many groups, such as the Gamaa Islamiya actually took the opportunity to renounce violence and attempt to become entirely political movements.

On the other hand, there remain in the Arab world tens of thousands of veterans from the struggle against the Soviets in Afghanistan who sympathize with bin Laden and have been angered by U.S. support for Israel as well as strikes against Afghanistan and threats to invade Iraq.

"Thousands around the world are see U.S. actions as a justification," said Rashwan. Attacks like the one against the synagogue in Djerba, Tunisia were by freelancers inspired by al Qaida and more of these cannot be ruled out.

Muhammad Salah, a journalist with the pan-Arab daily Al Hayat and a long time observer of extremist Islamic groups, seconded his opinions. He explained that al Qaida is really a great network of organizations with similar animosity towards the perceived "anti-Islamic" policies of the United States.

"American policy creates an atmosphere for the establishment of these groups," he said, adding that there has been heavy recruiting of new members in the Western countries themselves.

Several of the speakers warned against an upcoming conflict between the West and Islam. The actual events of Sept. 11 were ignored in favor of the subsequent US campaign in Afghanistan, threats against Iraq and continued support of Israel.

"The issue is no longer about bin Laden or the Taliban," said Mahfouz Azzam, an Islamist intellectual and relative of bin Laden lieutenant Ayman Zawahri. "It is about dismantling the Arab world, and thus we must kill every Christian and Jew."

He said the United States is trying to "change Islam from within" by pressuring governments to close Islamic charities and alter school curriculums.

Conference organizer Al Zayat stressed that the anger in the Arab world stemmed from American Christian policies, not from any particular animosity towards Westerners in general.

"Americans should ask themselves why they were targeted, why there are feelings of anger by Muslims," he said. "Why aren't these feelings directed towards Europe as well? The answer is the policies of America."

On the other hand, Western revulsion over the attacks has allowed the government to pursue crackdowns on militant groups (as well as the Muslim Brotherhood) without fear of international condemnation. In the past year over 20 Islamists have been extradited to Egypt from around the world and hundreds have been imprisoned and put on trial.

The conference featured several participants from the liberal and leftist trends who disputed many of the opinions of the speakers. Newspaper editor Ibrahim Eissa dismissed the notion of a Western war against Islam or some clash of civilizations pointing out that it is Western human rights groups protesting the conditions of detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. He also pointed out that these same human rights groups have consistently publicized the plight imprisoned Islamists.

Eissa now works at a private satellite channel after having several of his newspapers closed by the government for being overly critical.

In response to questions from leftist critics, Al Zayat affirmed the commitment of the Islamist movement to the rotation of power and respect for other religions. "Democracy is a cornerstone of Islam," he said. He also called for formulating new ideas and new directions in the movement.

"If someone says 'death to America,' I understand the sentiments but slogans are not enough, we need to organize and create a vision to destroy the world," he said.


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KEYWORDS: evil; gamaaislamiya; islam; islamism; islamists; wot
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Islam is as peaceful a religon as the Nazis loved the Jews.

The only goal of Islam is to destroy the human race. Where are are of the human rights groups demanding equal rights for women in the Islamic world?

Silent are the women's groups, just like they were silent on Clinton raping women.

1 posted on 09/09/2002 1:27:55 PM PDT by GaryMontana
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To: GaryMontana
Bring it on! The U.S. will finish the job Charlemagne started back in the 8th century.
2 posted on 09/09/2002 1:30:03 PM PDT by Junior
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"Americans should ask themselves why they were targeted, why there are feelings of anger by Muslims,"

Perhaps because these guys are still alive?

3 posted on 09/09/2002 1:31:39 PM PDT by js1138
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To: GaryMontana
If someone says 'death to America,' I understand the sentiments but slogans are not enough, we need to organize and create a vision to destroy the world

"What are we going to do today?"
"The same thing we do every day, Mohammed, take over the world."

4 posted on 09/09/2002 1:33:13 PM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: kjenerette
...for class 9/11
5 posted on 09/09/2002 1:33:15 PM PDT by kjenerette
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To: GaryMontana
"Islam under assault" my lily-white arse. Let's not forget for a second who attacked who first. The arrogance of these liars is truly reprehensible.

Let one thing be perfectly clear: Given our military capabilies, the Arab world survives solely at our descretion. End of line.


6 posted on 09/09/2002 1:34:18 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: GaryMontana
"CAIRO, Sept. 8 (UPI) -- A year after Sept. 11, thousands across the Islamic world perceive their religion to be under assault and may take up arms against the United States, experts said Sunday at a conference on Islam in Cairo."

Oh,no! Our high-tech weapons, and armor don't stand a chance against their swords and camels!!

7 posted on 09/09/2002 1:34:49 PM PDT by The Scorpion King
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To: GaryMontana
What a load of garbage! Sickening, Barf!!

The worst part is yacking about democracy... Lie lie lie.


Also, maybe it's all these 'death to america' talks and actions that are endangering islam's lifespan? Nawww, couldn't be..
8 posted on 09/09/2002 1:35:25 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Joe Brower
It would not be much of an exercise to "bounce the rubble" in these countries since that's all they've got in the first place.
Still...it would be interesting to try.
9 posted on 09/09/2002 1:36:26 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: GaryMontana
Ah-hem...we HAVE asked ourselves LOTS of things...and are coming to kill you like the miserable rats you are...and free your children.

I oppugn you to death.

You are no interlocutor of mine.
10 posted on 09/09/2002 1:37:24 PM PDT by PoorMuttly
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To: Joe Brower
Given our military capabilies, the Arab world survives solely at our descretion.

I'm ready to be... indiscreet.

11 posted on 09/09/2002 1:41:46 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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Islam, religion of peace?

America should be ashamed of killing those peace-loving Muslims by throwing buildings into their paths as they "borrowed" those airplanes.

We are evil people!

12 posted on 09/09/2002 1:42:01 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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UPI doing spin for Islamists?
This was not a Muslim conference, but one put together by the political wing of a terrorist organization.
The conference entitled "The Islamist movement after the events of September 11" was organized by lawyer Montasser Zayat, long known as the de facto spokesman of the Gamaa Islamiya, one of Egypt's largest militant organizations. Featured speakers included several prominent Islamist thinkers and analysts.

Even teh actual title of the event showed its true nature. UPI presented a false image. The correct title for the piece should have been
"Islamist Conference:Fundamentalist Islam under assault"

13 posted on 09/09/2002 1:43:16 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: Lil'freeper
Mohammed and the brain, brain, brain, brain...
14 posted on 09/09/2002 1:44:45 PM PDT by Sender
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To: rmlew
Almost all islam is fundamentalist. There's very little in the way of 'enlightened' islam in the planet.

So, basically the story and title are correct.
15 posted on 09/09/2002 1:47:38 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: GaryMontana
Democracy is a cornerstone of Islam

Examples, please.
16 posted on 09/09/2002 1:51:35 PM PDT by BJClinton
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To: rmlew
Every non-citizen mulism should be deported from the US, and any muslim US citizen who will not renounce islamism should be interned.
17 posted on 09/09/2002 1:53:39 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: GaryMontana
thousands across the Islamic world perceive their religion to be under assault and may take up arms against the United States

i fart in your general direction. prepare to die.

18 posted on 09/09/2002 1:56:21 PM PDT by glock rocks
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To: GaryMontana
They feel as if they're under attack now? Where are the Islamic institutions under attack? They build their schools and teach their hate on American soil. Who is killing them without provocation? They are publicly celebrating Sept. 11 in London and Washington, D.C., rubbing it our faces. We keep letting them into our country, and we are allowing many who are here illegally stay. The British have allowed themselves to be taken over. Islam is lucky the West is much more tolerant than it was 500 or 1000 years ago. (Notice that Spain, the last country in Europe to repel Muslim rule, didn't mess around with Morocco. They still remember.) But it seems to me Islam is pushing its luck. That tolerance can only last so long in the face of continued agression on their part. At some point we will decide to pay them back in their own coin.
19 posted on 09/09/2002 1:57:26 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: BJClinton
Eissa now works at a private satellite channel after having several of his newspapers closed by the government for being overly critical.
Here's an example of Islam democracy...
20 posted on 09/09/2002 1:59:38 PM PDT by Far Right Of Left
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