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Understanding Arabic Culture
FBI Critical Incident Response Group, Crisis Negotiation Unit ^

Posted on 09/10/2002 8:52:08 AM PDT by mikenola

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To: Admin Moderator
Roger that. Sorry
41 posted on 09/10/2002 12:28:02 PM PDT by Redleg Duke
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To: Inkie
Other religions and their practices are generally treated with respect.

It depends on what the definition of "respect" is.

42 posted on 09/10/2002 12:28:59 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: Ed B.
From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990 : A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However he should not penetrate, sodomising the child is OK. If the man penetrates and damages the child then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girls sister.

There's always a "but".

43 posted on 09/10/2002 3:42:27 PM PDT by Jonathon Spectre
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To: mikenola
This is really a very strange document. Arab (the ethnicity), "Arabic" (the language group), and Islamic are three very different things. The author refers to "Arabic peoples" which can only mean that he or she intends a reference to the language group, but that language group subsumes at least the 20 ethnicities referenced and more, and within those "customs" such as those referenced vary widely. Moreover, the Iranian people the linked story references are not Arabic by ethnicity (they're Persians and the remnants of ancient peoples such as the Medes) nor by language group (they speak Farsi). They are, in addition, Shi'ite muslims, not the Sunnis of classical Arabic derivation, whose customs within Islam differ from their Western coreligionists.

Even within the Arabic Sunni Moslem Arabs customs tend to differ depending on whether the individual is a follower of the fundamentalist Wahhabis or the more secular majority. While I'd be the last to defend Islam as a "religion of peace," this sort of stuff is simply too oversimplifying and broad-brush to be useful to really understanding the peoples in question.

44 posted on 09/10/2002 3:56:59 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dan909
Iranians are not Arabs.
... Pakistanis are not Arabs.

Yes, but as the author of the article didn't state.

*Arab culture is the most dominating, single influence in the Islamic world.*

45 posted on 09/10/2002 5:05:38 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: Ed B.
I started on this thread this morning. I left from the university on my bicycle and did about 25 miles. I have given this some thought.

There are a lot of books in Arabic. Literally there are millions. Just like in English there are Occult books which call for sodomy, and rape, and human sacrifice. Of course there is the Koran, and then there are the Hadiths of the Prophet Mohamet, and then there are untold hundreds of books written as poetic fiction attributed to the myth of the Prophet.

It is not surprising that we are calling for a Religious Intifada Against Islam. The world has become baren spiritually. For example, Ritual Abuse by catholic priests or Masonic Abuse is based on the very same Islamic idealogical shit that says that its O.K. for a man to have sexual pleasure with children. Whats more is that these religious herecies have been imbedded in the doctrine of the world's religions since their inception.

The Crusades of the 14th century led to the European Rennaisance. In most Islamic countries women are not permitted to read the Koran. Men are forbidden to touch it without going through the proper cermonial ablutions. It is the same scenario of Pre-Martin Luther-Christendom. In that time the Bible was so "sacred" that there was only the Latin, which could only be viewed on the post in the church. When the Americans smuggled Bibles into the Americas they were hunted down by the British. Benjamin Franklin describes how they hid the Bible in his house by nailing it to the underside of a stool. In order to read the book they would turn the whole stool upside down.

In the Arab world, Prophet Mohamet is not just the founder of the religion, but he is also the central figure of most folk tales.

Small persecuted groups in the Arab world are calling for democracy. They who live under the tyranny of the Mullahs, the Ayatollahs, and the Shiek's have very little power. A terrorist attack against the United States is a terrorist attack against any free-thinking democracy movement in the Arab World. It is Osama's and Hussein's way of saying to the Arab people, there is your American Freedom, and poof there your dreams for democracy are like a puff of smoke.

It is good that American press will point to the inhuman punishments that go on there. The Moslem people will not do it. They will not speak about it because it is an infraction called shirk. The Prophet once ordered a man to be stoned to death because he boasted about commiting adultry. To not speak of these things is to follow Arab culture. It is in the line of wearing a Hijab, and washing your hands before you eat. It is also in the way of not disturbing the peace.

There is much more going on in this war then most of us are aware of. If you read my post, then you like to read. Do a Google search and type Islam and Democracy in the window. where's my...

46 posted on 09/10/2002 5:05:40 PM PDT by ramdalesh
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To: mikenola
Foundation...Al Queda Redefined

It occured to me today that I am greatful to be an American, because despite all of our terrible ways we continue to expect a higher set of standards out of ourselves, no matter what others say or do to us.

47 posted on 09/10/2002 5:21:06 PM PDT by ramdalesh
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To: MassExodus
that picture is funny, but its been 'photoshopped' and the caption is bogus (the candy part is)
48 posted on 09/10/2002 5:26:34 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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To: KneelBeforeZod
I'm not sure what you mean about "photoshopped".

As far as the caption is concerned, there may be some inacuracies in the translation from $#!t-bag Palestinian to English, is the definition of "candy".

That the woman is doing that shrilly thing with her tongue and dancing is clear.

49 posted on 09/11/2002 5:16:45 AM PDT by MassExodus
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you may have missed this post and I think it is very helpful in understanding Arabic/Muslim culture.
50 posted on 10/31/2002 8:34:13 AM PST by Siobhan
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The article is helpful in understanding Arab culture. The thread is less helpful. I thought given the current situation, this was good information to have at hand.

BUMP.

51 posted on 11/15/2002 12:10:31 PM PST by Siobhan
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To: MEGoody
"Children are the "jewels" of the family." Is that why they turn them into homicide bombers or pass out sweets to the neighbors when they've killed one of their daughters for having sex?

Throughout history, jewels have been used as high-denomination currency, as well as decoration. Looking at it in that sense, children could be considered "high-value assets".

Expending a high-value asset in furtherance of Jihad, can be considered a religious contribution

A daughter who is no longer a virgin has little marketable value as marriage-material, and so may be recycled. If the act of recycling results in an increase in the family's reputation for "piety", then the expenditure is profitable, in their eyes

52 posted on 11/17/2002 4:10:31 PM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: MassExodus; KneelBeforeZod
As far as the caption is concerned, there may be some inacuracies in the translation from $#!t-bag Palestinian to English, is the definition of "candy".

Probably the arabic text said "sweets", meaning pastries made with lots of honey (which are popular in Middle-eastern cultures) and it got translated as "candy" (which to Americans means stuff like chocolate and lollipops)

53 posted on 11/17/2002 4:18:19 PM PST by SauronOfMordor
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To: mikenola
Who wrote this manual for the FBI- Osama and Khomeini? God help us if the FBI really trains off this rubbish.
54 posted on 11/17/2002 4:36:58 PM PST by eleni121
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