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In the Suburbs, What to Do About a Deer
Washington Post ^ | September 12, 2002 | Bob Levey

Posted on 09/13/2002 6:01:11 AM PDT by SJackson

It was a Friday evening, and Cynthia Fain was off to do an errand. As she came out of her apartment complex in Gaithersburg, "I saw a deer lying on the side of the road," Cynthia says. "I realized he had just been hit by a motorist."

Cynthia approached the obviously dying animal "to see what help I could offer." Meanwhile, a security guard called Montgomery County police, and a crowd (including several children) began to gather.

"I sat on the curb and stroked the deer's head," Cynthia writes. "He responded by opening his eyes and putting his head in my hands. . . . I wished that everyone could feel what I felt at that moment."

One man very clearly did not.

Even though the deer was not yet dead, the man told the crowd that he would "take care of it." Cynthia and the security guard asked him what he meant. He said he would drag the deer off to a grassy patch nearby and butcher it.

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1 posted on 09/13/2002 6:01:11 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Right on. Fresh Venison served up.

The only way to handle a Fresh kill.

2 posted on 09/13/2002 6:02:53 AM PDT by Johnny Gage
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To: SJackson
As Scooby Doo used to say....Yummm Yummm!
3 posted on 09/13/2002 6:03:59 AM PDT by TheCause
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To: SJackson
Man, I love venison.
4 posted on 09/13/2002 6:04:17 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: SJackson
In '90 I was on the BW Parkway when traffic came to a stop (not surprising...), some yuppie had hit a deer. Well the animal was clearly in great pain and beyond help. the yuppie was fidgeting about, "Can't we do something? Can't we do something?" This other guy turned to me an said, "Hold it's head." I did so and he cut its throat with a Spyderco. The yuppie barfed all down the front of his suit.
5 posted on 09/13/2002 6:06:31 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SJackson
"I sat on the curb and stroked the deer's head," Cynthia writes. "He responded by opening his eyes and putting his head in my hands. . . . I wished that everyone could feel what I felt at that moment."

Yeah, people as stupid as you usually end up in the hospital or even the morgue. An injured wild animal is dangerous.

6 posted on 09/13/2002 6:09:15 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Tijeras_Slim
It was much more merciful to cut the deer's throat so it could die quickly than to let it go on suffering.
7 posted on 09/13/2002 6:10:32 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: SJackson
"Cynthia approached the obviously dying animal "to see what help I could offer." Meanwhile, a security guard called Montgomery County police, and a crowd (including several children) began to gather."

And unfortunatly the deer did not put a hoof through this morons esophagus! Dang it, I hate it when they let the idiots slide with thier own stupidity.
8 posted on 09/13/2002 6:20:39 AM PDT by drgnwrks
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To: MEGoody
As things have been built up around me, we have an infestation of hungry, scrawny deer.

I gave up having a garden, they are eating my landscaping, and getting hit in front of the house with depressing regularity. When they are hit, they are given to people on a waiting list.

I hope the anti-hunters are happy.

Because of the closeness to the street and a nearby conservation area, I cannot harvest venison, that my wife dearly loves....though a brother-in-law bow hunter has been making quiet propositions to me about dawn visits......

Despite this abundance we have new urban people moving in who put those fiberglass deer statues on their lawns..while nearby, deer graze in broad daylight on the grounds of a local college, and I surprise them when I open the front door.

It was a thrill to see them the first time, twenty years ago. Now they are like locusts.

9 posted on 09/13/2002 6:21:14 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: hopespringseternal
I notice she sez "he"....he opened his eyes and tried to "Gore" her with his last bits of energy.
Yes,Cynthia,I too have fealt what you did,it's a habit of mine to admire the animals strength and beauty and even thank the Lord for the animal....then it's time to get to work.
Archery opener this weekend,I hope I do get that fealing.
10 posted on 09/13/2002 6:22:57 AM PDT by Minnesoootan
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To: Minnesoootan
It's almost hunting season bump!
11 posted on 09/13/2002 6:25:01 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Tijeras_Slim
the yuppie was fidgeting about, "Can't we do something?

Sure, he could have paid to CareFlight it out to the nearest veterinary trauma center, then paid for emergency care, convalesence and rehabilitation back to the nearest grassy area adjoining a highway.

12 posted on 09/13/2002 6:26:22 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: SJackson
Deer - It's The Other Red Meat!
13 posted on 09/13/2002 6:32:39 AM PDT by TonyInOhio
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To: SJackson
Years ago when I was working in the Oil Fields in the South Texas town of Sonora, my crew came upon a nice 10 point buck that had it's hind leg hung up in the barbed-wire fence.

The three of us got a good hold of the buck, flipped him over and freed the snagged leg. After releasing him and observing that he was having severe trouble with his bum leg, we discused catching him again, tying him up and them butchering him after our well site job was completed (November-Deer Season).

It appeared that the buck heard us very clearly 'cause he suddenly "healed" and jumped the fence as he would any other day and took off into the brush.

14 posted on 09/13/2002 6:33:36 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: Gorzaloon
My bow hunter friend has made similar propositions to me and I will probably take him up on it. It's safe, quiet, and very lethal in the right hands.

Just make sure he is good, you don't want to end up with a dying deer with an arrow stuck in it and yuppies caressing it.

15 posted on 09/13/2002 6:33:56 AM PDT by palmer
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To: SJackson
A few years back I was returning from bowhunting on November 6, which is the beginning of the rut around here. Coincedently, a six-pointer stepped directly in front of my Bronco on the way home, knocking it into the ditch and scattering all sorts of glass and plastic from the front of my truck all over the road.

The next car along saw what happened, and called the accident into the police on her cell phone.

Anyway, I walked back to my truck and got out my buck knife and had just dispatched the deer with a quick stick in the heart over the animal's back (the safest way to do it, by the way) when a police cruiser pulled up, lights flashing, and a young (20-something) officer got out of the car.

The officer walked up to me, and looking at me, dressed in full camo and face paint, with my hunting license pinned to my back, laughed and said "Man, you must've wanted that buck pretty bad...."

I got about 50 pounds of processed venison out of it, but it was the most expensive deer I ever killed, that's for sure... $2200 worth of vehicle damage worth...

16 posted on 09/13/2002 6:58:33 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: dd5339
ping
17 posted on 09/13/2002 7:04:53 AM PDT by Vic3O3
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To: Johnny Gage
Fresh Venison served up.

Don't you have to age venison just like beef? At least bleed the carcass and let it hang for a while.

18 posted on 09/13/2002 7:06:50 AM PDT by strela
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To: TonyInOhio
Doh! A deer! A female deer...
19 posted on 09/13/2002 7:09:42 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Kenton
Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!

LOL! I got skunked one year with my Hawken, and about a week later bashed a big doe with my oldsmobile.

The joke later was "couldn't get one with my 50 so I had to use my '88'".

20 posted on 09/13/2002 7:28:14 AM PDT by BallandPowder
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To: hopespringseternal
"I sat on the curb and stroked the deer's head," Cynthia writes. "He responded by opening his eyes and putting his head in my hands. . . . I wished that everyone could feel what I felt at that moment."

"Yeah, people as stupid as you usually end up in the hospital or even the morgue. An injured wild animal is dangerous."

I blame Walt Disney, and that damnable cartoon "Bambi." That on cartoon film is responsible for instilling this notion of wild animals as pets in people! Personally, I would like to see that film banned.

21 posted on 09/13/2002 7:55:59 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: SJackson
Sometimes I wonder about people.

I have no problem with hunting, I hunt myself, and I like to eat meat. But having comapssion and feeling for a suffering animal is a normal human reaction. There's a big difference between shooting a deer on a hunt and killing it quickly, and having an animal suffer in pain like this.

If people were allowed to carry firearms, some good Samaritan could have put the poor creature out of its misery. I don't think slitting its throat is such a humane way to do it. A bullet in the brain is faster and more painless.
22 posted on 09/13/2002 8:02:07 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
It's almost hunting season bump!

Yep, got my .223 out and gave it a good cleaning the other day. All of my hunting gear is next. I can't wait. Fresh backstrap on the grill!

23 posted on 09/13/2002 8:05:45 AM PDT by AUgrad
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To: drgnwrks
"Cynthia approached the obviously dying animal "to see what help I could offer." Meanwhile, a security guard called Montgomery County police, and a crowd (including several children) began to gather." And she softly said to the injured deer "Now calm down or you'll taste gamey".
24 posted on 09/13/2002 8:07:29 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: SJackson; Vic3O3
Hey!

Tomorrow is front stuffer season in Kansas. Can't wait to be out hiding in the bushes with my muzzle loader in the morning. Just waiting for Bambi to wander up so I can blow a nice large hole through her, (I shoot the does).

We've got a great meat locker in town that makes some of the best summer sausage around.

With any luck my wife and I are hoping to put several of the pests in the freezer this year.

Semper Fi

25 posted on 09/13/2002 8:08:10 AM PDT by dd5339
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To: Destructor
Personally, I would like to see that film banned.

Any books you want burned while you're at it?

26 posted on 09/13/2002 8:12:34 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ZULU
some good Samaritan could have put the poor creature out of its misery

Reminds me of a police report I read. A car had struck a deer and the cops were called to the scene, where an officer finished off the creature with his pistol. However, the report was written - tongue in cheek - as though the deer were being executed as a death row inmate, and I laughed out loud as I read that "the suspect was executed, and justice prevailed."

27 posted on 09/13/2002 8:20:45 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: AppyPappy
"Now calm down or you'll taste gamey

All of that unburned lactic acid in the muscle makes the meat tough as well.

28 posted on 09/13/2002 8:21:37 AM PDT by AUgrad
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To: AUgrad
Fresh backstrap on the grill!

I'm a shotgunner: getting ready for the pheasant, grouse, and wookcock in the October New England woods. Nothing better.

29 posted on 09/13/2002 8:29:03 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: SJackson
If it was up to these Cement grass raised Yuppies with "feelings" all these precious things would be left along to breed like Humans from some South African Country.

Over populate, over graze then die by mass starvation or something Like CWD will spread thru them and they all die. Then these weenies will demand that Big Brother "Do Soemthing" to save the poor things. Anyone remember the Overpopulation of the Rocky Mountain Elk Herd 10 years or so ago? Damned Tree Hungers out prodding Rifle hunters with Ski Poles while they were trying to thin out the herd.

The things one misses by being raised by a bunch of Bambi loving, Tree Hungers. 3/4 of em would either have a nervous breakdown or require severe Mental help had any of them spent a week on a working Dairy/Beef/Crop farm. They would commit suicide if they had to experience a slaughter house.

30 posted on 09/13/2002 8:31:26 AM PDT by Area51
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To: SJackson
True Story: When I was in the army, there were always lots of deer on my base. Everywhere. One night a buck was hit by a car near my company HQ. A guy in a neighboring company went over to it and tried to grab the antlers. Theoretically as a precursor to putting it out of its misery, I guess.

Well the obvious happened. The deer thrashed and ended up goring him in the groin. The guy lost a testicle. This was someone who I had been in basic with, so when I ran into him later, I asked hiim if it were true. He admitted it very sheepishly. When I asked him what the hell he was thinkiing, all he could do was shake his head.
31 posted on 09/13/2002 8:55:56 AM PDT by Faeroe
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To: Area51
Over populate, over graze then die by mass starvation or something Like CWD will spread thru them and they all die.

There is a state park near here that did not hold it's hunting season for several years a while back. The deer had lost their fear of man and were greatly overpopulated. You could drive through the park at 2:00 in the afternoon, following a caravan of twenty or thirty cars and count over 150 deer. They had eaten every green thing within reach and were destroying trees left and right (eating the bark) The whole park was in danger of ecological collapse. Lost most of its small critters and native plant life.

Finally scheduled a hunt after trying to relocate and/or sterilize the deer didn't work. Harvested 1500 or so and the park is returning back to normal.

Treehuggers never learn, the sportsmen have managed the wioldlife in this country for 200 years. The hunters know what they are doing.

GSA(P)

32 posted on 09/13/2002 9:02:17 AM PDT by John O
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To: strela
"Fresh Venison served up."

"Don't you have to age venison just like beef? At least bleed the carcass and let it hang for a while."

Hanging the meat allows the enzymes to start breaking it down, which effectively tenderizes the meat. Just don't let it hang too long if you live in one of the Southern States. The meat will spoil. If you live it the South you can get away with haning it overnight, but that's about it. Otherwise you get that so-called "wild" taste.

So hang it overnight, then get it on ice early the next day.

33 posted on 09/13/2002 9:32:19 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: SJackson
Yummm Yummm. Deer barbeque is delicious!! I love venison in most forms. It would be far kinder to shoot the poor thing and then eat it then to sit there stroking it's head while it lies there probably in agony.
34 posted on 09/13/2002 9:38:45 AM PDT by pgkdan
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To: ThomasJefferson
"Personally, I would like to see that film banned."

"Any books you want burned while you're at it?"

Boy, you don't miss a beat do you? Since YOU asked, I can think of two: "It Takes A Village" by Hillary Clinton, and "Earth In The Balance" by Al Gore.

If that makes me a bad American in your opinion, well, then I don't have to tell you what you can do with your opinion!

35 posted on 09/13/2002 9:42:12 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: Destructor
If that makes me a bad American in your opinion, well, then I don't have to tell you what you can do with your opinion!

Yes, banning books you don't agree with makes you a dumb American, maybe bad too. And it never occurred to me that you valued my opinion.

But it doesn't keep me from pointing out tyranny everywhere I see it.

36 posted on 09/13/2002 9:45:32 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: John O
Treehuggers never learn, the sportsmen have managed the wioldlife in this country for 200 years. The hunters know what they are doing.

I agreed with all your points on that post til this one, then ya lost me. I can think of a few times when the "managing" was not too good. Can you?

37 posted on 09/13/2002 9:48:35 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
"Yes, banning books you don't agree with makes you a dumb American, maybe bad too. And it never occurred to me that you valued my opinion."

"But it doesn't keep me from pointing out tyranny everywhere I see it."

You're easily amused! I'd tear into you, but I have this strong feeling that a paper tiger like you is no stranger to the abuse button!! Consider yourself ignored, Tommy!!!

38 posted on 09/13/2002 9:53:35 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: AppyPappy
And she softly said to the injured deer "Now calm down or you'll taste gamey".

Now you just got me to shoot Coke out of my nose. It burns. It burns.
39 posted on 09/13/2002 9:55:14 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: ZULU
I did exactly what you describe last year in my suburban neighborhood with a doe that had been mangled by a car. I warned the crowd of soccer mommies that it would not be pleasant but it was best for the struggling deer with one leg torn off. I also asked if any objected. None did...this is Nashville not Massachusetts. I happened to have my .50 muzzleloader primed in the back from hunting the day before. I dispatched the doe with one swift headshot and some nearby residential construction workers took the deer for meat.

Some of the mommies were teary and others were shocked, but it had to be done. I left quickly not wishing to explain my actions to Joe LEO when or if he arrived.
40 posted on 09/13/2002 10:00:43 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: SJackson
Bow hunting season starts tomorrow here in Maryland. I can't wait to get out in the woods and fields again. Hopefully the mozzies down on the shore don't try and fly off with me. Time to catch up on some reading in the stand.
41 posted on 09/13/2002 10:01:28 AM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: SJackson
You quickly kill the damn rat with hooves.
42 posted on 09/13/2002 10:03:14 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: All
It's been debunked as a hoax, but this thread need the 9-1-1 "Bambulance Call" for those who haven't heard it.

"Bambulance" 911 call


43 posted on 09/13/2002 10:11:05 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: CollegeRepublican
"Now calm down or you'll taste gamey".

You can take the gameyness out of venison along with tenderizing it by soaking it in milk for 20 minutes.

Now about downed deer!

I have a friend that has an in with the glendale PD that whenever they have a downed deer they give him a call and he takes care of it and splits the proceeds with the cops.

One time years ago a buck fell upside down between a retaining wall and a bank and was stuck upside down. The home owners demanded that they save him and the animal control people managed to pull him out but when he got to the top of the wall he broke lose and bolted through their sliding glass doors, totally wrecked the house before my friend shot him in the middle of the living room on their white carpet.

Those bambi lovers got just what they deserved!

44 posted on 09/13/2002 10:11:10 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: ZULU
Yes, a bullet to the brain would be faster and more humane. Slitting it's throat is the next most humane option when a gun is not available.
45 posted on 09/13/2002 10:43:23 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: ThomasJefferson
I can think of a few times when the "managing" was not too good. Can you?

Of course. Buffalo and such. The difference being that the sportsmen eventually come to their senses and realize "hey, we better take better care of these or we'll not have any more to hunt" while the treehuggers NEVER come to their senses. To the TH management means getting humans out of the loop entirely and letting the herd die off of natural causes.

GSA(P)

46 posted on 09/13/2002 10:44:25 AM PDT by John O
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To: SJackson
It was inconsiderate of the guy to butcher the deer in front of obviously suburban children. But what were the children still doing there? Watching the deer suffering before the police arrived to shoot it can't have been too pleasant for the kids either, nor would continuing to gaze at it after it was dead and had a bloody hole in its head. If Cynthia Suburbanite was so concerned for the children's sensibilities, why hadn't she ushered them out of the area long before the butchering started?
47 posted on 09/13/2002 11:28:57 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Watching that deer being dressed out is a good education, why would you want to shield a child from reality and a learning experience?

Bambi and Flipper are social mind warping BS!
48 posted on 09/13/2002 11:31:44 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Destructor
Yeah, I was thinking the one thing the guy dressing the dear should have done before he began dressing it was to loudly say, "OMG, I think this was Bambi."
49 posted on 09/13/2002 11:41:43 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
HA! That would've totally freaked that yuppie out! LOL!!
50 posted on 09/13/2002 11:52:54 AM PDT by Destructor
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