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Newark [NJ] bishop off abuse panel
Jersey Journal ^ | 9/19/02 | AP

Posted on 09/19/2002 7:28:23 AM PDT by Incorrigible

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Don't know what to make of this.  The press obviously doesn't have much creditability and I imagine there always some parishioners that will be upset with whoever is/was in charge.
1 posted on 09/19/2002 7:28:23 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Coleus; ELS
Bump
2 posted on 09/19/2002 7:29:51 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible
It's too bad, but it's the right thing to do.

Myers was terrific at reintroducing orthodoxy to the Peoria diocese. I lived there under his predecessor and during the early part of Myers' run there. There was a LOT of heterodoxy going on when Myers came in. He spent most of his time and energy combatting it, and making Peoria one of the most orthodox dioceses in the Midwest.

That being said, this commitee isn't about orthodoxy. t's about properly disciplining priests in specific and notorious circumstances. I don't know all the details, but circumstantially it does appear that he neglected his duty to properly discipline the seven priests in question. Since the thrust of this commitee is to devise policies for properly dealing with situations like Jenkins found when Myers left, Myers would be better served learning from the commitee rather than directing it.

3 posted on 09/19/2002 7:38:57 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Snuffington
How orthodox can you be if you tolerate bugger-priests? Seems to me that's more about hypocrisy than orthodoxy: do as the Church says, not as I do.
4 posted on 09/19/2002 7:42:13 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: Incorrigible
I don't know much about the situation in the Peoria diocese under Myers' term, but having said that, I don't trust McBrien. It's pretty clear that McBrien doesn't agree with Myers (and the Magisterium) on Church teachings. "some parishioners said Myers had left the problem for Jenky" Who are these parishioners? Why do they think Myers left the problem for is successor? Why aren't they willing to back up what they say by giving their names? It sounds like a common tactic used by TV "reporters" - "some say..."

I think Myers has removed some priests from duty in the Newark archdiocese. I don't hear him whining that McCarrick left a mess for him to clean up. Sheesh.

5 posted on 09/19/2002 7:47:21 AM PDT by ELS
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To: Incorrigible
"John Myers left a very messy situation in Peoria," McBrien added.

THIS IS A LIE!

Sorry to be so blunt, but I live in the Diocese of Peoria and Archbishop Myers is one of the best men, one of the most well-formed priests, I've ever had the pleasure to meet.

Let's just start with the numbers. Seven. Seven priests out of somewhere around two hundred priests. Moreover, a couple of the priests had already retired, several face accusations stemming from long ago(a decade) before Myers took over, and, I believe, of those who face charges stemming from the time frame of Myers tenure, most, if not all, had already been removed from positions involving children. Fianlly, one of the seven I know faces accusations stemming from a relationship with an adult woman.

But seven? There's been probably around four hundred priests who have served in the Diocese the last forty years. Seven would represent less than 2%. Not perfect, but a heck of alot better than most dioceses I would wager.

Archbishop John Myers is a good and holy man. Perhaps that's why someone like McBrien feels compelled to lie about him.

And I haven't even touched on all the good things he's done for our Diocese such as dramatically increasing vocations, standing firm against heterodoxy, etc.

May God always bless him and may all our Dioceses be similarly blessed.

6 posted on 09/19/2002 7:47:37 AM PDT by AlguyA
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To: NYer
Ping
7 posted on 09/19/2002 7:48:09 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: Incorrigible
It seems to me that a serious situation existed around this Bishop. At least this is tha case if he, indeed, left 7 offending priests within his authority to be dealt with by his predessessor.

The major scandal is that Bishops look the other way when a priest is caught in a sexual entanglement with a young boy. Until this problem is fully addressed the confidence of the Catholic people will not return.

Godspeed, The Dilg
8 posted on 09/19/2002 7:49:11 AM PDT by thedilg
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How orthodox can you be if you tolerate bugger-priests? Seems to me that's more about hypocrisy than orthodoxy: do as the Church says, not as I do.

Do you know what these priests are accused of? When they were accused? Who did the accusing? How it was reported to Myer? When it was reported? What canonical options Myers had available based on the actual evidence he had?

I truly don't know any of the above, so I'm unwilling to start name calling and frothing at the mouth about the situation. Especially in the midst of a media-hyped feeding frenzy.

9 posted on 09/19/2002 7:49:25 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Incorrigible
Something's not right. If McBrien is out in front, there's something else going on. I don't trust him.
10 posted on 09/19/2002 7:51:37 AM PDT by Desdemona
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To: AlguyA; BlackElk
Archbishop Myers is one of the best men, one of the most well-formed priests, I've ever had the pleasure to meet.

I recently had the opportunity to meet him and found him to be quite down-to-earth and sincere. He approved a petition for an indult for the Tridentine rite, I thanked him personally for it and he said he hoped it was going well. His sermons are always solidly orthodox.

11 posted on 09/19/2002 7:57:47 AM PDT by ELS
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"some parishioners said Myers had left the problem for Jenky"

Yes, and this is key. 'Some parishoners' didn't like Bishop Myers. They were the Call to Action types who were banned from using Church facilities for the purposes of promoting schism and heresy.

With respect to Bishop Jenky, the article makes it sound like Jenky agrees he was left with a messy situation. But I wonder why the reporter didn't ask him his opinion?

I'll tell you why. Because Bishop Jenky has made it clear he feels like he has been extraordinarily blessed to have followed Bishop Myers. He's made it clear in public on numerous occasions.

12 posted on 09/19/2002 8:00:01 AM PDT by AlguyA
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To: AlguyA
Thanks for your insight. I presumed a professor of theology from Notre Dame was probably not an orthodox Catholic (Of course, I went to Marquette so nothing Notre Dame does is good!).

ELS mentioned that Myers removed priests in Newark.

I don't trust the press and this article smelled of a hit job.

13 posted on 09/19/2002 8:00:49 AM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: AlguyA
I just made post #8 prior to reading your response. It is a lesson for me. I better wait until I am better informed before putting my large nose into a situation. The whole sorry mess distorts our perception.

I probably have done a good man a diservice. For that I am truly sorry.

Thank you for adding your knowledge to the posts.

Godspeed, The Dilg
14 posted on 09/19/2002 8:01:26 AM PDT by thedilg
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To: ELS
"I recently had the opportunity to meet him and found him to be quite down-to-earth and sincere."

Yes, and just wait until you start getting the priests he gets for his Dioceses'. Solid men in love with Holy Mother Church intent on righting the Ship which has veered off course the last couple of decades. And, yes, he is, shall we say, very tolerant of the Tridentine Mass.

15 posted on 09/19/2002 8:05:37 AM PDT by AlguyA
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To: AlguyA
'Some parishoners' didn't like Bishop Myers.

Yes, I forgot to mention that. I had posted an article last year when Myers was appointed archbishop. It quoted both those who agreed and disagreed with Myers. I'll see if I can dig it up when I get home tonight.

Bishop Jenky has made it clear he feels like he has been extraordinarily blessed to have followed Bishop Myers.

Interesting. It appears that the AP reporter is trying to ruin Myers' reputation with innuendo. In the second paragraph the reporter quotes the Chicago Tribune. Is the Trib like the NYT (anti-Catholic agenda)?

16 posted on 09/19/2002 8:08:44 AM PDT by ELS
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To: thedilg
Thank you for adding your knowledge to the posts.

Your welcome. Not to worry, we're all on edge during this crisis. Thanks for your most gracious post.

17 posted on 09/19/2002 8:09:09 AM PDT by AlguyA
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"Is the Trib like the NYT (anti-Catholic agenda)?"

I must say, I don't read the Trib that much. I know it's pro-abortion.

18 posted on 09/19/2002 8:11:58 AM PDT by AlguyA
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To: Incorrigible
Can't we have a good bishop in northern New Jersey? The ones I am familiar with are all those who place the welfare of children dead last on their list of priorities. To do so is a form of evil.
19 posted on 09/19/2002 8:17:31 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: AlguyA
THIS IS A LIE!

I pray and hope you are right. But then, it is extremely disturbing that he would be bounced from the commission.

20 posted on 09/19/2002 8:19:47 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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