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Mall Evacuated in S.F. Valley!
http://www.msnbc.com/local/KNBC/A1327935.asp ^ | September 19, 2002 | TamiPie

Posted on 09/19/2002 10:21:12 AM PDT by TamiPie

Topanga Canyon Mall Evacuated

WOODLAND HILLS, Calif., 10:13 a.m. PDT September 19, 2002 - The Topanga Canyon Mall was evacuated Thursday morning.

Authorities found possibly suspicious containers on the roof of the mall. The material may be on the roof directly above the California Pizza Kitchen, according to NBC4.

A mall security guard called the Los Angeles Police Department at 8:05 a.m. to say he received a call from a man with a Middle Eastern accent saying chemical agents were being left at several locations in the mall, according to Lt Horace Frank of LAPD press relations.

Responding officers talked to a mall employee who said he saw two men placing buckets on the roof. The buckets are labeled "Danger Oxidizers."

A Los Angeles Fire Department hazmat team is at the scene. It's possible the buckets were placed on roof by maintenance workers, but no one is sure.

The Los Angeles Fire Department is investigating.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: California
KEYWORDS: dangeroxidizers; firebad; veyseries
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1 posted on 09/19/2002 10:21:12 AM PDT by TamiPie
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To: TamiPie
"Danger Oxidizers."

I don't know. Sound like hoax to Mongo, but Mongo only pawn in game of life...

2 posted on 09/19/2002 10:23:38 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: TamiPie
I was there a few days ago. It wasn't me, I swear.

3 posted on 09/19/2002 10:23:54 AM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: TamiPie
Responding officers talked to a mall employee who said he saw two men placing buckets on the roof.

Hot tar, perhaps?

4 posted on 09/19/2002 10:23:56 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: TamiPie

It's time to secure these arabs and let Americans get back to living....... it's getting real tiring the way they are running the show.
5 posted on 09/19/2002 10:24:44 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: hellinahandcart
Danger Oxidizers

I think that's a new WB action series.

6 posted on 09/19/2002 10:26:05 AM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Larry Lucido
Hot tar, perhaps?

What is "hottar"? Is it some new explosive, or biological agent?
An Arab word, perhaps? Now I'm really scared...

7 posted on 09/19/2002 10:30:57 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: TamiPie
Well, keep us posted.
8 posted on 09/19/2002 10:37:06 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Psalm 73
It's actually spelled Qatar.








(I'm kidding.)

9 posted on 09/19/2002 10:37:45 AM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: TamiPie
I remember how strange that mall was after the riots, with the national guard posted on the roof.
10 posted on 09/19/2002 10:41:50 AM PDT by SCalGal
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To: TamiPie
KFWB now reporting...
BREAKING News: Telephone Threat Prompts Mall Evacuation; Buckets of Unknown Substance Found

(KFWB) 9.19.02, 9:55a - - The Topanga Plaza Mall in Canoga Park was evacuated after a telephone threat suggested a possible hazardous materials situation. Police confirm buckets of an unknown substance were discovered on the roof of the mall at Victory and Topanga Canyon Boulevard. Officials have not yet determined whether the substance is harmful.

KFWB's Steve Lentz reports from the scene that police and fire personnel are taking the threat very seriously. LAPD Sgt. Ken Roth says the caller made reference to chemicals on the roof and said they had access to restrooms and other common areas. Lentz says that after the call was received, mall security personnel found two, five-gallon buckets on the roof. There was smoke rising from the containers.

Jeff Baugh in Jetcopter 980 reports every entrance to the mall has been blocked off. Baugh says there were not many vehicles in the parking lot because stores had not opened their doors to customers when the incident began. However, the mall itself was open to employees and window shoppers. Police say they are keeping people away from the area as a precaution.

YIKES!! The mall is only about 500m from the Redcloak Family Compound!!

The news helos were arriving just as I left for work. I spotted one LAPD Suburban (LAPD Hazmat?) heading over from Ventura Blvd. at the 101.

11 posted on 09/19/2002 10:44:07 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Tony in Hawaii
But it's pronounced "Hutter".
12 posted on 09/19/2002 10:45:06 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: TamiPie
directly above the California Pizza Kitchen

Wolfgan Puck trying a new topping?

13 posted on 09/19/2002 10:45:57 AM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: Redcloak
I had a buddy in high school named Ottar.

14 posted on 09/19/2002 10:48:05 AM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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california pizza kitchen? must be where they are hiding their MSG.
15 posted on 09/19/2002 10:49:18 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod
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To: TamiPie
Danger Oxidizers

"Hi, I'm Billy Bates here to tell you about an amazing new cleaner, called 'Orange Clean'.

Carpet Stains? Mere childs play. Look at what it does to this stove full of grease....."

Oh, and have you seen my new product, the Ding King?"

16 posted on 09/19/2002 10:50:30 AM PDT by SGCOS
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To: TamiPie
Aarrgh! I was going to shop there tomorrow after work. Should I be afraid? Maybe I'll go to Fallbrook Mall instead. :-{
17 posted on 09/19/2002 10:54:51 AM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: hellinahandcart
Sound like hoax to Mongo, but Mongo only pawn in game of life...

Don't shoot 'im -- it'll only make 'im mad!

18 posted on 09/19/2002 10:57:05 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Redcloak
Topanga?


19 posted on 09/19/2002 10:57:52 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Nea Wood
Just moved from Woodland Hills to Yorba Linda. Glad to be back behind the "Orange Curtain."
20 posted on 09/19/2002 10:58:11 AM PDT by X-Servative
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To: TamiPie
A mall security guard called the Los Angeles Police Department at 8:05 a.m. to say he received a call from a man with a Middle Eastern accent saying chemical agents were being left at several locations in the mall

By the end of the day this story will have been sanitized, to where there would have been no phone call, and if there was a phone call, no one could be certain of the callers accent.

The security guard will be chastized for making such careless remarks, and being guilty of jumping to conclusions, based on all the hype the Bush Admin. has stirred up.

The fact that their was a phone call is the highlight of the incident. The finding of these buckets may or may not be coincidental.

It is interesting how these stories evolve over the course of a day or two. This one will probably just fade away. But, if you viewed the live coverage of Waco, or The OKC bombing, you know how what you saw live, disappeared over time. Such as the tanks going in and out of the Davidan building with flames shooting out of their barrels. Then the tanks were driving back and forth over the underground rooms most of the occupants retreated to. Or OKC, the first on scene investigators running due to discovery of other bombs.

Oh well, better stop before I am admonished to don tinfoil.


21 posted on 09/19/2002 11:00:51 AM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic
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To: Nea Wood
I like that mall.... that's where Norstrom's is.
22 posted on 09/19/2002 11:01:11 AM PDT by SCalGal
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To: hellinahandcart
"Danger Oxidizers."

I'm in a fire department HAZMAT class right now. "Oxidizer" is the term used for any chemical or compound that reacts with Oxygen. Generally, they react violently, hence the warning. Containers that contain them have to carry labels that say "Danger Oxydizers", and trucks have to be placarded. Our government at work... guess they decided that it would be too expensive to add punctuation to the placards and labels in the interest of readability. :) They should read: "DANGER! Oxidizers"

Just my .02.
23 posted on 09/19/2002 11:03:52 AM PDT by cyphergirl
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To: cyphergirl
Question? If a legitimate "threat," why call in and warn the police?
24 posted on 09/19/2002 11:07:25 AM PDT by X-Servative
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To: TamiPie
Here is an overhead view of the mall...


Image courtesy of the U.S. Geological Survey

The large compound to the east is Boeing. (The old Rocketdyne plant.) Just to the north is Canoga High.

25 posted on 09/19/2002 11:09:20 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Nea Wood
Fallbrook was razed. You're outta luck!
26 posted on 09/19/2002 11:10:04 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Redcloak
It's been cut in half! Damn those dastardly terrorists!
27 posted on 09/19/2002 11:11:10 AM PDT by thesharkboy
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To: thesharkboy
Imagine my surprise at finding a large white stripe going across my neighborhood this morning!
28 posted on 09/19/2002 11:12:22 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Psalm 73
Hottar is what makes the Hottentots so hot.
29 posted on 09/19/2002 11:12:57 AM PDT by SarahW
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To: TamiPie
Isn't this, like, you know, where we store our valley girls? If there is an emergency give the police radios to the valley girls and they can use mall-speak like the code talkers to communicate with head quarters.
30 posted on 09/19/2002 11:14:11 AM PDT by Blue Screen of Death
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To: Redcloak
ABC just said that all they found was cleaning solvents, no hazardous materials.
31 posted on 09/19/2002 11:15:05 AM PDT by SCalGal
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To: SarahW
I thought that it was courage that made them so hot. It's what put the ape in apricot.
32 posted on 09/19/2002 11:15:10 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: SCalGal
Shower time?
33 posted on 09/19/2002 11:16:20 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: Clovis_Skeptic
Oh well, better stop before I am admonished to don tinfoil.

Too late.

34 posted on 09/19/2002 11:16:32 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: Redcloak
LOL, I guess. Anyway, looks like nothing to worry about.
35 posted on 09/19/2002 11:17:44 AM PDT by SCalGal
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To: Blue Screen of Death
Isn't this, like, you know, where we store our valley girls?

RealAudio of an NPR story from this morning about how teenagers use the word 'like'...

Yeah, I know it's NPR, but it was kind of interesting, not to mention perplexing that people would actually research such a thing.

36 posted on 09/19/2002 11:22:31 AM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: FSU_Nole
You mean Nordstrom

Yes, Thank you.

38 posted on 09/19/2002 11:27:59 AM PDT by SCalGal
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
Go rent a copy of "The Patriot" on DVD and listen to the director's comments. He says "Like" and "Sort of" approximately seven billion times. He's German, though, so he's like, sort of allowed.

39 posted on 09/19/2002 11:30:41 AM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: SCalGal
They also have a Pottery Barn and a Crate & Barrel. Yowza.
40 posted on 09/19/2002 11:31:45 AM PDT by Tony in Hawaii
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To: Redcloak
Wow...33 posts...thirty-three...before the first shower alert....

We're starting to slip y'all!

41 posted on 09/19/2002 11:35:18 AM PDT by NorCoGOP
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To: Redcloak
"Here is an overhead view of the mall..."

I don't see any buckets...

42 posted on 09/19/2002 11:42:26 AM PDT by Psalm 73
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To: Teacher317
LOL! Terrorist meets world.
43 posted on 09/19/2002 11:53:39 AM PDT by Mike-o-Matic
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To: TamiPie
Although this one will hopefully be a ruse....
If you want a perspective of the vulnerability of malls ..
Get your hands on a copy of "DRAGON'S FURY: TRODDEN UNDER by Jeff Head "
Your next trip to the mall with be with a new perspective!!
44 posted on 09/19/2002 11:59:11 AM PDT by Marobe
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To: TamiPie
LA area? ok which defunct left-wing liberal disorganization is it this time? Cant we just put all of the Peoples Republic of California on the known Terrorist list?
45 posted on 09/19/2002 12:09:50 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State
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To: Mike-o-Matic; Teacher317
I obviously don't watch enough television.

; ^ )
46 posted on 09/19/2002 12:12:09 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
RealAudio of an NPR story from this morning about how teenagers use the word 'like'... Yeah, I know it's NPR, but it was kind of interesting, not to mention perplexing that people would actually research such a thing.

"Doctor Muffy Siegel" in the Journal of Semantics. I loathe the rapidfire occurrences of "like" in teenspeak, especially when I hear my contemporaries (geezers) using it. After listening to the clip, I understand how it may be useful (if not warranted) at times but, after "Muffy" the linguist purported to justify the use of "like," I do wish the interviewer would have asked her what people said instead of and prior to the invasion of "like."

Like, thanks for the link.

47 posted on 09/19/2002 12:14:25 PM PDT by newgeezer
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To: TamiPie
Cover-up story.

In reality, it was a fashion emergency.

48 posted on 09/19/2002 12:17:14 PM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: newgeezer
I do wish the interviewer would have asked her what people said instead of and prior to the invasion of "like."

Ummm.... They said ...ummm... something else. You know?

49 posted on 09/19/2002 12:24:16 PM PDT by Redcloak
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To: newgeezer
"Muffy(?)" Siegel.

Like gag me with a spoon!

50 posted on 09/19/2002 12:46:56 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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