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Tiger attacks kindergartner at Scotts Valley school
Sacramento Bee ^ | 9/20/02 | NA

Posted on 09/20/2002 7:00:50 PM PDT by Carry_Okie

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:44:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

SCOTTS VALLEY, Calif. (AP) - A tiger attacked a kindergartner at a school assembly Friday, sending the 6-year-old boy to a hospital.

The tiger was being led out of an auditorium at Baymonte Christian School by its trainer when it suddenly lurched over a row of seats and grabbed the boy by the head in its jaws, Scotts Valley Police Capt. Harry Bidleman said.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bigcats; burningbright; environment; fearfulsymmetry; forestofthenight; largepredators; naturalbornkillers; nature; schools; toothandclaw; wildanimals; williamblake
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Well, I guess the school got a taste of reality when it comes to nature. The genre of environmental idiots and ethologists who paint these animals as "nice" are collectively culpable here. I know Steve Patterson personally, and all I can say is that he will be in our prayers as will the child who suffered this attack.
1 posted on 09/20/2002 7:00:50 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: sasquatch; hedgetrimmer; Sir Francis Dashwood; Syncro; SierraWasp; Boot Hill; Grampa Dave
Santa Cruz, and this was a good Christian School.
2 posted on 09/20/2002 7:04:10 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
Well, you know...no guns, knifes or aspirin allowed in publik skool...but apparently TIGERS are OK.
3 posted on 09/20/2002 7:05:17 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Carry_Okie
What was Patterson thinking, bringing a tiger into a school?

Are there not other ways to reward children than bringing wild animals into a school?

If I hear that parents from this school are demanding that the tiger be put down, Patterson will be to blame for the death of an innocent animal.

4 posted on 09/20/2002 7:05:36 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Carry_Okie
Oops. Didn't catch that it was a Christian school. I didn't think they had any of those in Santa Cruz. :-)
5 posted on 09/20/2002 7:05:57 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Carry_Okie
Wild animals are not pets.

Wild animals are not pets.

Wild animals are not pets.

Tigers are preditors and will behave as such.

Repeat as necessary.

6 posted on 09/20/2002 7:06:00 PM PDT by SCalGal
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To: Carry_Okie
Scotts Valley is not Santa Cruz. It's between Santa Cruz and the Silicon Valley. It's a very family oriented community. A lot of Silicon Valley engineer live there because it is cheaper and out of the hustle and bustle of the valley.
7 posted on 09/20/2002 7:09:37 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: SCalGal
Don't you love all those eco posters with all the animals with big soft eyes all together, as one with Gaia.

They make me puke.
8 posted on 09/20/2002 7:10:14 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
I see insurance rates rising
9 posted on 09/20/2002 7:10:22 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Carry_Okie
Thanks for the ping, one of my sons went to Baymonte years ago, and before that I lived in Scotts Valley.

Quick thinking on the part of your friend the Principal.

10 posted on 09/20/2002 7:11:07 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Carry_Okie
Kinda brings a new twist to "throwing Christians to the lions", doesn't it? 'Pod
11 posted on 09/20/2002 7:11:24 PM PDT by sauropod
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To: Carry_Okie
Man, rough school. We didn't have any tigers at my school at all... just regular kid-bullies.

These are wild animals and stronger than a human handler. It was irresponsible to have them in such a stressful setting in the first place, especially that close to the kids. I cringe whenever I see handlers leading big cats and letting bystanders pet them. Tigers don't have a "pack" mentality that can be mastered and used in training. They are solitary, and nothing in their instincts is prepared for group interaction.

I hope the child recovers well and quickly!
12 posted on 09/20/2002 7:11:37 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: luckystarmom
Scotts Valley is in Santa Cruz County. Most people that live in that county refer to the whole area generically as "Santa Cruz" just as people living in the suburbs of Los Angeles call the whole area LA.
13 posted on 09/20/2002 7:13:38 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: Carry_Okie
The genre of environmental idiots and ethologists who paint these animals as "nice" are collectively culpable here.

Exactly. Instead of displaying these vermin, we should exterminate them.

14 posted on 09/20/2002 7:14:28 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: luckystarmom
Did you read the post I put with the thread that I personally know the guy who pulled the kid away from the cat?

I have a Scotts Valley phone number.

The enviro-brainwashing in schools is universal, and includes Christian school programs. It is a requirement for State accreditation. BTW, a lot of upper-middle class lesbians live here too.
15 posted on 09/20/2002 7:14:58 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
LOL
16 posted on 09/20/2002 7:15:50 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: B Knotts
Well, you know...no guns, knifes or aspirin allowed in publik skool...but apparently TIGERS are OK.

We should have a law mandating a 1000' safety zone against tigers. Yeah, that's the ticket.

17 posted on 09/20/2002 7:17:04 PM PDT by TC Rider
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To: Doe Eyes
Exactly. Instead of displaying these vermin, we should exterminate them.

Oh, I think the planet is big enough to accommodate them, but it is true that we don't manage the risks of large predators very well. The reintroduction programmes in operation in this country have had enormously destructive side effects, both on people and the environment.

18 posted on 09/20/2002 7:17:10 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
Is this why they tore down Santa's Village?
19 posted on 09/20/2002 7:18:07 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Carry_Okie
One more reason to arm our students. They're fish in a barrel.
20 posted on 09/20/2002 7:18:14 PM PDT by Fifth Business
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To: sinkspur
If tigers are outlawed, then only outlaws will have tigers ...
21 posted on 09/20/2002 7:18:19 PM PDT by Bernard
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To: Doe Eyes
No, you're doing exactly the same thing you abhor in the enviros by projecting human values onto a wild animal. The tiger was being a tiger. The only ones to blame are the handlers and the school administrators. Just illustrates the point that private schoolers are susceptible to stupidity too. If my kid went there I would be looking for another school posthaste.

Imagine the furor on FR if it had been a public school.
22 posted on 09/20/2002 7:19:15 PM PDT by kms61
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To: nickcarraway
Naw, Borland took over the Santa's Village property. Baymonte is within a quater mile of it on the same side of 17 right at the end of the Granite Creek bridge.
23 posted on 09/20/2002 7:21:29 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: kms61
Imagine the furor on FR if it had been a public school.

It's a good school, but in this instance it is suffering from the same disease.

24 posted on 09/20/2002 7:22:52 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Doe Eyes
you are talking about the handlers,not the animals,correct.A tiger can never be domesticated,nor should it.I do love animals but,they are wild,will kill and that is okay as long as they are in thier envirnoment.Don't pet the kitty and don't imprison it in a cage,let it run free,catch it's food,and live another day.
25 posted on 09/20/2002 7:25:50 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: Carry_Okie
BTW, a lot of upper-middle class lesbians live here too.

Well, the lawns are well manicured then.....

26 posted on 09/20/2002 7:29:49 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: Carry_Okie
I thought of you instantly when I heard this story on the news! Was the tiger's name "Tony?" (grrrrrEAT!!!)

The poor kid only got lacerations, plus gobbs of trauma!

Our kids only have to worry about being eaten by Mountain Lions during their long walk to the bus shed in the spring when we change to daylight savings time to help Gray Davis "Flex Your Power by making conservation a way of life!"

27 posted on 09/20/2002 7:31:05 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: Doe Eyes
Tigers are vermin and should be exterminated? Because they are a carnivore? - And you Doe, are a vegetarian, then, right?
28 posted on 09/20/2002 7:31:50 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: sinkspur
What was Patterson thinking, bringing a tiger into a school?

He clearly wasn't.

Are there not other ways to reward children than bringing wild animals into a school?

There is a whole culture around this kind of thing, starting with Animal Planet and extending personal contact from shark petting to demonstrations with venemous snakes. The message is the same:

They're really not as bad as people think, they're just misunderstood. They need our protection. Give us money to protect them and spread the message. If I hear that parents from this school are demanding that the tiger be put down, Patterson will be to blame for the death of an innocent animal.

I would doubt that. I promise you, this might be the worst night of Steve Patterson's life. The man has personally taken that school from a failed program to a beacon for Christians of all denominations whose only other option is a pubelick skewel in Santa Cruz County. He paints classrooms, he plays basketball with the kids, he always has time for parents, and has always treated me with respect. His Biblical scholarship is excellent.

The guy has my prayers. At least he had the presence of mind to pull the kid out of the cat's jaws. Not everybody would do that.

29 posted on 09/20/2002 7:34:47 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: HairOfTheDog
Tigers are vermin and should be exterminated? Because they are a carnivore? - And you Doe, are a vegetarian, then, right?

Hey, don't go all liberal on me. You need to go hunting.

30 posted on 09/20/2002 7:35:32 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: SierraWasp
They have that problem in Scotts Valley too. A cat was spotted on the outside of the play-yard fence at Vine Hill School only a couple of years ago.
31 posted on 09/20/2002 7:36:29 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: ErnBatavia
LOL! Indeed they are.
32 posted on 09/20/2002 7:37:28 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
Hey, when I posted this story, the Moderator exiled it to Chat. Harumph.
33 posted on 09/20/2002 7:38:33 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Carry_Okie
Everybody's entitled to a few mistakes. This one was a doozy.
34 posted on 09/20/2002 7:38:45 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Dog Gone
Playing a game of cat and mouse with the AM again, sirrah?
35 posted on 09/20/2002 7:40:34 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Dog Gone
Playing a game of cat and mouse with the AM again, sirrah?,p> Excuse me, in this case that should have been "sahib."

My apologies to the forum.

36 posted on 09/20/2002 7:42:14 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
I wonder how much they'd want to visit my company...
37 posted on 09/20/2002 7:49:01 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Doe Eyes
...Exterminated any venison lately? Or were you refering to environmentalists and ethologists...
38 posted on 09/20/2002 7:49:05 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: Carry_Okie
My thread was way cooler. It had pictures of the actual tiger.

Neener neener neeeeeener.

39 posted on 09/20/2002 7:49:11 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Doe Eyes
I will and have gone hunting, and I eat a lot of meat. But I don't see the animals as vermin, and I hope they are not exterminated. You said that. The world you paint with that statement is not a real pleasant picture.
40 posted on 09/20/2002 7:49:27 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Carry_Okie
How would you like to be the owner of Zoo to you, about now?\
41 posted on 09/20/2002 7:51:38 PM PDT by hosepipe
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To: Carry_Okie
MEOW
42 posted on 09/20/2002 7:51:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Dog Gone
LOL! Got profligate with the bandwidth, eh?

It was your downfall.

Strictly hard biting news stories here.
43 posted on 09/20/2002 7:53:24 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: hosepipe
$20 bucks says the handler was a woman.
44 posted on 09/20/2002 7:54:52 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Carry_Okie
Well, I guess that explains it. Otherwise I'd have to argue that the AMs are arbitrary and capricious and that threads are exiled to Chat Siberia without due process.
45 posted on 09/20/2002 7:56:54 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Carry_Okie
What part of TIGER don't they understand?
46 posted on 09/20/2002 7:57:36 PM PDT by dighton
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To: eastforker
That's not quite correct. In fact it is possible to "domesticate" a tiger, I've seen full grown tigers who worked with their trainers very well. However, they are extremely unpredictable beasts. One might be your best friend for life, another will be just as docile yet one day it turns on you. You just can't tell, they have their own agenda, and you don't know which one will or won't turn on you until the day comes when it does, or it dies of old age.

All in all I think the large cats are best left in the wild.

47 posted on 09/20/2002 7:59:30 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob
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To: Dog Gone
rotflmao

Oh it was due process, counselor...

an I wouldn't want to inspect the toddler's pants either.

(gotta stay on topic you know... stick around, I'll show you the ropes)
48 posted on 09/20/2002 7:59:54 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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What part of TIGER don't they understand?

Prey drive.

49 posted on 09/20/2002 8:00:55 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: ErnBatavia
Well, the lawns are well manicured

I'll bet the carpets are clean as well. You can be sure they've got that problem licked.

50 posted on 09/20/2002 8:01:05 PM PDT by strela
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