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Israel Tells the U.S. It Will Retaliate if Attacked by Iraq
The New York Times ^ | 9/21/2002 | Michael R. Gordon

Posted on 09/21/2002 3:02:55 PM PDT by ex-Texan

Israel Tells the U.S. It Will Retaliate if Attacked by Iraq

By MICHAEL R. GORDON

JERUSALEM, Sept. 21 — Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has informed the Bush administration that he plans to strike back if Iraq attacks Israel, according to Israeli and Western officials.

Mr. Sharon's statements, made privately to senior American officials in recent weeks, represent a major shift in Israeli thinking since the 1991 Persian Gulf war, when 39 Iraqi Scud missiles struck without any Israeli response.

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The prime minister's position reflects a widespread belief among Israeli politicians and generals that Arab leaders perceived Israel's restraint in 1991 as weakness. Throughout his military and political career, Mr. Sharon has always held that any attack on Israel must be promptly and powerfully punished.

"I don't think there is a scenario in which Israel will get hit and not strike back," a senior Western official said. "I think the evolving strategy will be commensurate response."

Mr. Sharon's position has significant implications for the Pentagon, which fears that an Israeli entry would stir up Arab public opinion and make it harder for the Pentagon to maintain cooperation from the Arab states where Washington hopes to base American forces

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1 posted on 09/21/2002 3:02:55 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
It's as good a way to start a war as any...
2 posted on 09/21/2002 3:04:13 PM PDT by Skwidd
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To: ex-Texan
YES!!!!!
3 posted on 09/21/2002 3:04:18 PM PDT by RandallFlagg
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To: ex-Texan
No more standing around waiting for incoming SCUDS!
4 posted on 09/21/2002 3:05:23 PM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: ex-Texan
Finally, something that will scare Saddam. You have to love Israel.
5 posted on 09/21/2002 3:16:15 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: ex-Texan
Israel will indeed strike back ......And if Iraq or any other Arab/Islamic nation has the chutzpah to hit them with WMD, Israel has at least 200 - some estimates are as high as 500 - nukes that they wouldn't hesitate to use. These are thermonukes (hyrdrogen bombs), not the relatively primitive fission devices that Iraq is attemting to engineer.
6 posted on 09/21/2002 3:20:01 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Rye
I doubt that you understand the magnitude of what you are suggesting. Whether or not Israel has the munitions is irrelevent. The real issue is the long damage that is occuring to world stability because of the poor leadership of the stooges in Mid-East regimes (including Israel AND Palestine).

Frankly, they should learn to control THEMSELVES better. Last chances are coming soon.

If Mr. Sharon's response puts US forces at risk, Mr. Sharon needs to learn to stay out. If he doesn't, the United States military should be prepared to address IDF action as a potential threat to our forces and should move to protect our national interests BEFORE Israel's.

As I have said in previous postings, the IDF is NOT our Pentagon. They should not be called upon to do our proxy fighting. If we believe that our nation has been attacked, we should address the situation with the perpetrator... any perpetrator... including if Israel's action costs American lives.

8 posted on 09/21/2002 3:49:20 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
Israel sin't doing our fight via proxy. Israel is trying to survive in an area where they are outnumbered by what? Say 50 to 1. It is the vowed intent of nearly all palis. egyptian, and all the rest to destroy Israel.
Now then why the hell should Israel let Sadman Insane shoot scuds loaded with GOD knows what and again sit by while it happens.
Quit being a pacifist with your head in the sand. For years they have taken this killing by arabs. Time to stand up the the bullies. Time to stand up to blackmail by those with oil. Time to take out one of these terrorist taining terrorist backing, terrorist states that continue this crap.
If Sadman hits Israel with even an ounce of nerve or biological
then I say take out a city or two.
9 posted on 09/21/2002 4:03:16 PM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: bonesmccoy
I doubt that you understand the magnitude of what you are suggesting. Whether or not Israel has the munitions is irrelevent. The real issue is the long damage that is occuring to world stability because of the poor leadership of the stooges in Mid-East regimes (including Israel AND Palestine).

baloney... bring it on. WE DO understand it. Munitions ARE irrelevant, that is, in the USA where we are loathe to use them even in self defense without international approval... Israel has it right. NO arab state or collection thereof could defeat Israel... and it would be over this time next week... Sadaam included.

The USA KNEW they were going to do this. This is the final roundup before we take down sadaam... and may infact be baiting our pseudo "friends" to reveal their true colors, JUST before we crush them to powder...

LEVEL the playing field... enough of the arabislamofascist rabble rousers! the arab nation is going to receive its comeuppance sooner or later... better NOW before they have 200 icbms...

10 posted on 09/21/2002 4:07:15 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Buster,

If the Israeli gov't really gives a damn about the US population why is this the quote in another thread?

Quote: "I say with my hand on my heart, not just to calm everyone, that the state of Israel is ready," Shiri said. "It would be easier for them to carry out a biological attack on even the United States than Israel."

Gee.... with friends like that... who needs Al Queda!

11 posted on 09/21/2002 4:09:37 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: Joe Boucher
I'm no pacifist. I draw boundaries on what is a US fight and what is an Israeli fight. Israel needs to stay out of our fight. PERIOD. If Gen. Sharon needs to move his troops, then President Bush will inform Mr. Sharon of WHEN and WHERE he will so move. Until that point, Mr. Sharon needs to shut up! He started this screwed up politic when he went to the Mount and now we're cleaning up pieces because of his inability to control the Palestinian population!
12 posted on 09/21/2002 4:11:27 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: bonesmccoy
Your post is wrong in so many ways that one scarcely knows where to begin. First of all, what does Israel defending itself have to do with "proxy fighting?" The statement makes no logical sense. Did you even read the article? Israel's response would be to an Iraqi attack on Israel, not the U.S.

Secondly, what "world stability" are you speaking of? The Middle East is a cesspool of Arab terrorists and instability, and Israel and America are fighting the same war against similiar (and some identical) foes. Whether you like it or not, the IDF and the U.S. military are working very closely with each other, and I seriously doubt that either would be in harms way if the other decided to retaliate with major weapons (like nukes). And make no mistake about it, if Israel is attacked with WMD, and the perpetrator can be identified, that particular Arab sandpit will be incinerated in short order.

And btw, your suggestion that the U.S. would fight the IDF if Israel threatened our oil interests is laughably naive. Where'd you get that gem from, The Spotlight? ...LOL. We've recently cut major deals with Russia for their Caspian Sea oil, and we're probably going to be temporarily annexing some Iraqi fields as well in the upcoming war. We'll extract what we need to pay off some debt and secure the free flow of oil for U.S. consumers for the forseeable future.

Relax, and enjoy.

13 posted on 09/21/2002 4:13:34 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Rye
Don't forget "The Samson Option" wherein Israel, like Samson of old, will not let them kill him without he bringing down the tormenters as well. In other words, if Israel is threatened with WMD, it will exercise the Samson option and rain nuclear hell on the attackers.

Saddam, you have been warned.

14 posted on 09/21/2002 4:14:07 PM PDT by FreedomCalls
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To: Robert_Paulson2
Exactly who in the Bush Administration do you claim "knew" about the 9-11-01 operation?

You got nothing to prove that point other than pure supposition.

The fact is that YES the US needs to address the threat of Saddam Hussein, but NO we don't need Israel F'ing it up for our troops.

At this point, the citizens in Israel should issue defensive protective gear, vaccinate their population, and then hunker down. The USA has the ball and the allies will need to address Iraq without Israel's interference. In fact, the more Sharon talks, the more he screws up our national interest. Although I applaud his remarkable record as a general, his skill as a politician leaves much to be desired.

15 posted on 09/21/2002 4:14:26 PM PDT by bonesmccoy
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To: GodsTraveler
fears that an Israeli entry would stir up Arab public opinion

.... SCREW arab opinion!!!

WE saw their vaunted "opinions" on september eleven.. f@#kers were dancing with glee in the streets... time to put them in sack cloth and ashes...

We should not give a d@mn about their opinions, their stupid antichrist religions, or their arab "sensitivities" and general p2n1s envy of the west...

They want seventh century... and are forcing it on the rest of the civilized world... it's time to go barbaric on them. There is no god called allah... and he has no respect for peace.

It is time we sought justice as a nation for what has been done to us... those that rejoiced in our sorrow, must be made to weep in sack cloth and ashes over their own stupidity...

Justice will be served...

16 posted on 09/21/2002 4:14:40 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: bonesmccoy
Why dont you move to iraq
17 posted on 09/21/2002 4:16:14 PM PDT by al baby
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To: bonesmccoy
As I have said in previous postings, the IDF is NOT our Pentagon. They should not be called upon to do our proxy fighting. If we believe that our nation has been attacked, we should address the situation with the perpetrator... any perpetrator... including if Israel's action costs American lives.

By the same token, out Pentagon is not their IDF. If they are attacked, why should they not strike back?

Drew Garrett

18 posted on 09/21/2002 4:16:15 PM PDT by agarrett
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To: bonesmccoy
I draw boundaries on what is a US fight and what is an Israeli fight.

there is NO such boundary to anyone who is informed... and YOU don't draw the boundaries.
19 posted on 09/21/2002 4:16:57 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2
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To: ex-Texan
I wouldnt expect anything less dont take any crap of sadass insane!
20 posted on 09/21/2002 4:17:05 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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