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Daschle Demands Apology by President Over Statement
The New York Times ^ | 09/26/2002 | CARL HULSE and TODD S. PURDUM

Posted on 09/25/2002 7:18:08 PM PDT by Pokey78

WASHINGTON, Sept. 25 — Pent-up partisan rancor over domestic security legislation and Iraq policy erupted today when Senator Tom Daschle, the Democratic of South Dakota who is majority leader, demanded an apology from President Bush for saying that Democrats were "not interested in the security of the American people."

In an emotional speech on the Senate floor, Mr. Daschle seized on Mr. Bush's statement on Monday that the Senate, where Democrats favor protecting workers' rights in the proposed Homeland Security Department, "is more interested in special interests in Washington."

Mr. Daschle took offense, saying: "That is wrong. We ought not politicize this war. We ought not politicize the rhetoric about war and life and death."

He added, his voice growing raspy: "You tell those who fought in Vietnam and World War II they are not interested in the security of the American people," because they are Democrats. "That is outrageous."

Republicans immediately countered that Mr. Daschle had taken the Mr. Bush's remarks out of context and was politicizing the debate himself. The White House and Republicans insisted that the president's criticisms addressed just the fight over labor regulations that has stalled legislation for the proposed department, not Iraq policy.

The spokesman for the White House, Ari Fleischer, said it was "time for everybody concerned to take a deep breath, to stop finger-pointing and to work well together."

Members of each party agreed that the eruption could slow the drive for a joint Congressional resolution on the use of force in Iraq, as well as forming the department.

Progress on drafting a United Nations resolution that would give Iraq two months to demonstrate a willingness to cooperate with weapons inspectors was also slowed by divisions in the administration and among Western allies. [Page A14.]

Mr. Daschle said the issues of Iraq and domestic security were intertwined, and he reiterated his view in a floor statement in late afternoon, saying that he knew full well the context of Mr. Bush's statement.

"What context is there that legitimizes an accusation like that?" Mr. Daschle asked. "This is politicization pure and simple."

The Senate Republican leader, Trent Lott of Mississippi, dismissed Mr. Daschle's speech as shrill and "over the top." Mr. Lott said he was "deeply saddened by the tenor and the tone" of Mr. Daschle's remarks and asked:

"Who is the enemy here? The president of the United States or Saddam Hussein? I think it's time we get a grip on things. We've got a lot of work to do."

The House minority leader, Richard A. Gephardt of Missouri, one of the administration's chief Democratic backers on Iraq, said that domestic security and Iraq were part of the "same clump" of issues and that Mr. Bush's comments represented at least "an implied, if not a direct, effort to pull these issues into the political realm."

Mr. Gephardt said he had called the White House chief of staff, Andrew Card, to urge that the political temperature be lowered.

Mr. Daschle's spoke as Democratic frustration grew that Iraq policy was now the dominant concern among voters as the Congressional elections approach. For weeks, many Democrats have sought to balance support for Mr. Bush on Iraq and domestic security while shifting the focus of the midterm elections to the bread-and-butter issues of the economy, health care and Social Security.

Mr. Daschle has been seen by some in his caucus as being too cooperative with the White House on Iraq. Former Vice President Al Gore's speech on Monday questioning Mr. Bush's course raised the pressure, members said. But until today, Democrats have been hard-pressed to change the subject without looking political and potentially weak on national defense.

For their part, Republicans have been eager to benefit from the high approval ratings that Mr. Bush has held since the Sept. 11 attacks and his campaign against terrorism, as long as they are not seen as exploiting the issue for political gain.

Dozens of Democratic senators sat rapt as Mr. Daschle tried to use Mr. Bush's own words to argue that Republicans were seeking political advantage over Iraq. In his speech this morning, the typically soft-spoken Mr. Daschle singled out Senator Daniel K. Inouye, Democrat of Hawaii, a highly decorated World War II veteran who lost his right arm in Italy.

"You tell Senator Inouye he's not interested in the security of the American people," said Mr. Daschle, who has for weeks stepped gingerly around the issue of whether the administration had political motives for emphasizing the need for action against Iraq. "This has got to end."

In recent days, the president has used several similar formulations to criticize Senate Democrats, in particular, for seeking to deprive him of the flexibility that he says he needs to discipline and promote workers in the proposed department. At a fund-raiser here tonight for the National Republican Senatorial Committee, Mr. Bush backed off from denouncing the entire Senate over the domestic security legislation.

The president said, "Some senators — not all senators, but some senators — believe it is best to try to micromanage the process, believe the best way to secure the homeland is to have a thick book of regulations which will hamstring this administration."

At his press briefing, Mr. Fleischer was repeatedly asked whether Mr. Bush stood by his flat statement that the Senate was "not interested" in the security of the American people and declined to give a direct answer, saying only, "If homeland security does not pass in the Senate, it will be true that the Senate will not have acted to protect the American people's security."

The national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, said tonight in an interview on "The News Hour With Jim Lehrer": "The president said that some Senators had had a tendency to put special interests ahead of national security, and he went on to praise Democrats and Republicans who were pulling together on the security issues that face the American people. So there simply isn't any politicization here."

Mr. Daschle's aides and other Democratic members said his remarks grew out of anger at Mr. Bush's comments. Other senators suggested that the remarks reflected the political reality that Mr. Bush had left himself open.

"There is a growing feeling in our caucus that instead of just saying yes to whatever the president wants, there should be questions asked," one Democrat said. "I think this does alter the dynamic on passage of any resolution, because it's become clearer that for the White House political considerations were at least part of the timing, and the president's remarks stepped over a line. We have to worry now that we don't overstep it, too."

A CBS News poll released on Tuesday said that four in 10 Americans said Congress had not asked enough questions about Mr. Bush's Iraq policy. Bare majorities said that the United States should follow the recommendations of the United Nations and that Congress should wait to vote until the United Nations had acted.

After his floor speech, Mr. Daschle told reporters that the president's comments and some he attributed to Vice President Dick Cheney at a recent appearance were complicating efforts to reach agreement on a resolution against Iraq and the entire Congressional agenda.

"It just sheds great doubt about what their intentions are," Mr. Daschle said. "It really brings to question their real motivation here. Are they extending these negotiations because they want to move this vote closer to the election?"


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1 posted on 09/25/2002 7:18:08 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Tom Daschle: Man or Midget
2 posted on 09/25/2002 7:20:02 PM PDT by Hillary's Folly
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To: Pokey78
Bush should send him a gift-wrapped straightjacket, and a note telling him he is sorry about his condition.
3 posted on 09/25/2002 7:22:23 PM PDT by Russell Scott
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To: Pokey78
I can't dispute Rush Limbaugh on this one. Daschle is more than a little entertaining on this one. What is mystifying is that the people in South Dakota think he is something special.
4 posted on 09/25/2002 7:22:29 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Pokey78
Mr. Daschle's spoke as Democratic frustration grew that Iraq policy was now the dominant concern among voters as the Congressional elections approach

How did this kernel of truth get into this Times article?

Someone up there is going to pay hell for it.

5 posted on 09/25/2002 7:24:34 PM PDT by JZoback
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To: Pokey78

Hey, you callin' me a turd?

6 posted on 09/25/2002 7:25:22 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: Pokey78
The Times should do a poll:

How often do you ignore our propaganda?

1. All the time.
2. Most of the time.
3. I can't ignore it, because I don't read it.

7 posted on 09/25/2002 7:27:08 PM PDT by Russell Scott
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To: ppaul
"Do you like my lipstick and pink tie?"
8 posted on 09/25/2002 7:27:50 PM PDT by Noslrac
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To: Pokey78
Wah, waaaaaaa, sniffle, sniffle. Poor little Tommie must have missed his dose of ritalin.
9 posted on 09/25/2002 7:28:51 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Pokey78
Just keep digging that hole deeper, Little Tommy.

It doesn't take a very big one to swallow you up.

10 posted on 09/25/2002 7:29:02 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Pokey78
And this article is ALL that most people will see about what happened today at the Homeland Security Bill hearings. It is a good example of what President Bush was talking about: Daschle making a political issue out of Bush trying to take care of the nation's business.

The Democrats supported Clinton in his 1998 'hit-a-camel-in-the-butt-with-a-cruise-missle' sortie to change the subject away from impeachment, and pretended like it was a serious effort at 'regime change' in Iraq. But they didn't support Bush Sr., and they won't support Bush Jr. The only difference is party. There is no other conclusion possible than they are putting party before country.

It is appalling that, one year and two weeks after 9-11, we still have no homeland security bill. Bush has given the Congress everything they've asked for. Nothing will ever satisfy them. They say we're not supposed to discuss the war or think about it before we decide who to vote for. I say it's a citizen's most important duty to do so.

President Bush should be more scathing more often.
11 posted on 09/25/2002 7:32:28 PM PDT by Jerez2
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
His hissy fit was marred by his PINK TIE which made him look so close to being a girl that it amused me no end. When indulging in mannish outrage, be sure to wear a red or a blue tie.
12 posted on 09/25/2002 7:32:38 PM PDT by cajungirl
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To: Russell Scott
speaking of the TIMES...on Hardball
Dick Armey was guest....Chrissy asked
Armey to respond to a NYT quote
Armey said" I catch and release"
(ie no need for a fishwrap)
13 posted on 09/25/2002 7:32:51 PM PDT by cactusSharp
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To: Pokey78
Michal Savage was comparing the small number of S.D. residents that puff Dash-is-ill really represents to about the same number of people in a couple of big city housing projects! Midget boy has lost it this time!
14 posted on 09/25/2002 7:33:10 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Pokey78
Mr. Gephardt said he had called the White House chief of staff, Andrew Card, to urge that the political temperature be lowered.

Maybe he should have called daschle instead! Pres Bush must have hit a nerve the way the RATs are acting -- Seems Zell Miller gets it but not the daschle/clinton/gephardt RATs!

15 posted on 09/25/2002 7:33:29 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Pokey78
Saddam is watching all this with great interest. Its hard to say if he is comforted, confused or entertained. I hope there is a retirement for the Senator before too long.
16 posted on 09/25/2002 7:33:43 PM PDT by oyez
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To: cajungirl
When indulging in mannish outrage, be sure to wear a red or a blue tie.

And be sure to be more than 5'2" in height.

17 posted on 09/25/2002 7:34:16 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Pokey78
Message to Tommy Daschund and Lil Dick Poco Loco Gephardt: The War is a political issue. Its your party that blows hot and cold on it, being for the war one day and being opposed to it the next. People, even in your own base can beg your pardon if they ask where the Democrats stand on the most important issue of our lifetime when you're not even sure from one day to next what's it going to be? I think you gentlemen doth protest a little too much in protesting the President's making it a partisan issue. The truth is while President Bush never called your patriotism into question, your fitness to lead this country and your responsibility for protecting it from America's enemies has become an issue. And trying to change the subject by calling the President names isn't going to make it go away. Even liberals who otherwise support you think you deserve to lose if you can't be counted on to take a principled stand on the War and not make it look like you're acting out of political calculation. In the meantime we'll let the American people decide who's right though I bet after Tommy's temper tantrum on the floor of the U.S Senate and Algore's broadside against the War in San Francisco they'll just dump you and in the words of your favorite mantra, "just move on."
18 posted on 09/25/2002 7:34:21 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Pokey78
" TODD S. PURDUM"- is Mr. Dee Dee Myers.

Daschle's behavior reinforced why no Democrat should ever be Commander in Chief. Can anyone imagine this pipsqueak leading men into battle???
19 posted on 09/25/2002 7:34:49 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Pokey78
Bush should apologize for anything he said or did that helped push Tommy over the edge today...... and offer him free counseling so we don't have to see the bizarre spectacle of Daschle unraveling before the cameras the way he did in the Senate today.

Oh and maybe the shrinks can help Tommy discover why he doesn't care about the security of the American people.

20 posted on 09/25/2002 7:38:43 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Pokey78
Well, I think Little Tommie owes us Americans an apology and so does that character, Byrd of the filibuster, and that idiot who can't figure out what he means or who he is, albore. They are a disgrace and disgusting people. So there, Tommy, smoke that!
21 posted on 09/25/2002 7:39:48 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: Pokey78
Methinks the Illegitimate Plurality leader senator from South Dakota doth protest too much.
22 posted on 09/25/2002 7:42:27 PM PDT by The Drowning Witch
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To: Pokey78
Methinks the Illegitimate Plurality leader senator from South Dakota doth protest too much.
23 posted on 09/25/2002 7:44:43 PM PDT by The Drowning Witch
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To: Pokey78
My God, the "dimwitted" Bush is playing the Dems like a violin. They're literally dancing to his tune.

Bush wanted the Dems to turn their rhetoric toward foreign affairs rather than domestic issues before the election in order to play to Republican strength. More to the point, he wanted them to focus on the war to REALLY play to Republican strength. Now he has the highest ranking Democrat going to the Senate floor, calling in the media and making a hot issue out of his denial that his party ranges from traitorous to incompetent on foreign policy.

This is one of those things taught in "Real Politics 101." Some issues you just shut up about, because a denial is almost as bad as a confession of guilt. Daschle has now framed the issue in voters minds as "Are the Democrats REALLY interested in American Security or not?"

Basic political sense tells you you NEVER want that question to appear in the mind of the voter. You want them to automatically assume the correct answer. It's the ground upon which you stand as a party. To question that is to question everything about your fitness for office.

Why Daschle so stupidly walked into this trap is beyond me. The Democrats are supposed to be devious and underhanded. This is just dumb.

24 posted on 09/25/2002 7:48:37 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: Pokey78
Dear Tom,

I'm sorry you're such a low-life, anti-american, socialist scum.

Sincerely,

GWB
25 posted on 09/25/2002 7:51:30 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Pokey78
President Bush replies, "I sorry that Democrats are not interested in the security of the American people."
26 posted on 09/25/2002 7:52:05 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Pokey78
"I hope that when you're my age,
you'll be able to say,
as I have been able to say:
We lived in Freedom.
We lived lives that were a statement,
not an apology."

President Ronald Reagan--Address to St. John's University, March 28, 1985. Knowing what we know since the early morning murdering of innocent citizens by terrorists on September 11, 2001, it is IMHO Daschle that should be rising to the occasion and be doing the apologizing to our President Bush. And furthermore, next time he visits the graves of brave dead G.I. Joes he remembers that theyh courageously sacrificed their precious lives so Americans remain free and not kowtow to the UN, Saddam, or any other lunatic despotic tyrannical barbarian.

Perhaps, President Bush, Cowboy II, should follow President Reagan's, Cowboy I, lead and say much the same to the puzzleheaded Daschle.

27 posted on 09/25/2002 7:52:10 PM PDT by harpo11
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To: Snuffington
Mr. Gephardt said he had called the White House chief of staff, Andrew Card, to urge that the political temperature be lowered.

Which means that Gephardt realizes what Daschle doesn't.

Bush hasn't raised the temperature. The Democrats have. Daschle lost it today, and only a complicit press will keep it contained to a minor disaster.

But it's too late. The focus has been shifted ever so slightly to exactly the question you framed.

Game, set, match to Bush, and don't think Bush ever viewed it as a game.

28 posted on 09/25/2002 7:55:30 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Can anyone imagine this pipsqueak leading men into battle???

Watch it. Some little guys have done quite well leading men into battle.



Gen. Phil Sheridan - Height, 5'4"

Of course, General Sheridan would NEVER have worn a pink tie...
29 posted on 09/25/2002 7:58:20 PM PDT by Antoninus
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To: Dog Gone
After Dasshole went into his Linda Blair Exorsist voice, I fully expected to see his head start spinning.
30 posted on 09/25/2002 8:04:14 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Antoninus
Watch it. Some little guys have done quite well leading men into battle.

Heck, I've known plenty of short men I'd follow into battle. But I've never known a single little man I'd follow.

31 posted on 09/25/2002 8:05:26 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: ppaul

Mr. Dasshole. You don't mind if I call you Dasshole do you? Good. Now, on the count of three, I will click my fingers and you will cluck like a chicken. Ready? One, two...

32 posted on 09/25/2002 8:09:22 PM PDT by Barnacle
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To: ppaul
Those eyes........like two piss holes in the snow.
33 posted on 09/25/2002 8:09:26 PM PDT by JessicaDragonet
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To: Snuffington
Notice that Dasshole isn't getting much cover from the national media either. In many cases they are beating the Pubbies to the punch by comparing what Bush and Cheney actually said to what Dass said they said.

This isn't the same as accusing the Pubbies of wanting to starve children and such. That was like asking someone if he still beats hes wife. On this issue there is a paper trail. Gosh, Dassholl really is not very bright.

34 posted on 09/25/2002 8:10:08 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Pokey78
The Washington Post took offense at comments made by Vice President Cheney, at a fund raiser for Adam Taff, running against incumbent Dennis Moore, Democrat in Kansas. Moore is apparently a Daschle lib, who tries to masquerade as a conservative Dem. Taff is a Naval Aviator and 767 pilot for United. This guy sounds like he has more than enough testosterone for Daschle, Gore and the rest of the Dems. Don't know why we haven't heard more about him before.From his website:


"I am a proud Kansan and have been honored to serve my country as a U.S. Naval officer and fighter pilot for the majority of my adult life. . This conviction stems foremost an instilled love of the principles of our Republic, the virtue of public service, and a love of God. With that as my backdrop, I am a proud candidate for the U.S. Congress in the Third District of Kansas.




"I want to ensure that our families, our children, our businesses, and our churches have the strong leadership on the national level that will enable this community to prosper and be safe for generations to come.


I was an academic All-American in football, played varsity baseball, was my senior class president, and graduated with honors with a BA in Economics. After graduation, I finished one year of Law School at Kansas University before joining the Navy.

My professional career in the Navy provided me invaluable experiences -- life experiences, and interaction with high ranking foreign and domestic military officers and politicians -- that has helped mold and develop my Republican views of our political system and our way of life. I was the number one graduate of more than 500 pilots in the Naval Aviation Pilot Training Program in 1990. The following year, I was the number one graduate of more than 75 pilots completing the F/A-18 qualification course, receiving the coveted Rear Admiral Moran Award. Further, I received the "Nugget of the Year" award as the top junior officer at Naval Air Station Cecil Field, Florida, in 1992. Most rewarding, though, was being voted Pilot of the Year in both 1993 and 1994 by my fellow squadron mates. I ran divisions in Operations, Administration, Safety and Maintenance overseeing large staffs. I am honored to wear thirteen different medals and ribbons.

My missions have included sorties in support of Deny Flight in Bosnia, Southern Watch in Iraq, and Restore Hope in Somalia. I have spent many months interacting with and visiting diverse regions including Israel, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Greece, Malta, Croatia, and nine other European countries. In each instance, I eagerly interacted with the local population, listening to their impressions of America and Americans. I engaged in numerous discussions regarding their and our economic and social systems, and ways to improve both of those systems and our relationships. It was during this time that I received my "de facto" degree in International Relations.

I lived in Switzerland for two and a half years. As one of two American military officers in the country (outside of the U.S. embassy) I was not only an ambassador for our country, but worked closely with our Ambassador and her staff. Because of my position, I was a frequent speaker on radio and television -- in English and fluent German -- explaining the program, and invariably the American way of life, throughout the country. I became close friends with the Chief of the Swiss Air Force, and enjoyed personal meetings with two different Presidents of Switzerland. In addition, I was involved in meetings with the Air Force European General in Command, and the subsequent Chief of Naval Operations.


The military also provided me with an outstanding variety of continuing education including several leadership schools, management courses, nuclear weapons safety and employment, and many classes of aviation, meteorology, and physiology. Currently, I fly the Boeing 767 for United Air Lines and I continue to fly the F/A-18 for the U.S. Navy Reserves.

Throughout my adult life, I have been rewarded by tutoring disadvantaged children. I know the importance of a strong educational system and how it can make all the difference in the lives of young people.

We are at one of the defining moments of our nation's history. We are the leader of the free world. With that comes the moral responsibility to make the difficult decisions that must be born from strength, wisdom, and an adherence to the values that have sustained our great Republic. I believe I am the candidate in the Third District that can most effectively fulfill those obligations for Kansans."

Get out your checkbooks,this guy sounds like a keeper.
35 posted on 09/25/2002 8:10:19 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Pokey78
Memo to Dashole -- Don't hold your breath.

36 posted on 09/25/2002 8:11:35 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: Antoninus
Ahhh-another Civil War aficionado!! Pipsqueak-"one who is small AND insignificant"!! I do believe that our dear,little Daschle fits the "insignificant"-to a "T".
37 posted on 09/25/2002 8:16:23 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Noslrac
"Somebody hid my booster seat!"
38 posted on 09/25/2002 8:24:56 PM PDT by ellery
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To: Pokey78
IMHO DASCHLE HAS PMS.
39 posted on 09/25/2002 8:32:16 PM PDT by solo gringo
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To: PhiKapMom
Zell Millers speech today in the Senate was a classic. He outspoke "Horatio" Byrd.
Having worked in Civil Service for 38 years, I can testify as to how hard it is to discipline, let alone fire an employee, who isn't doing their job. It takes months.
Under the present conditions, it will be necessary to move quickly in the new Dept. of Homeland Security.
However I can see a possibility of abuse. ie. "Office politics.
tbird1
40 posted on 09/25/2002 8:33:33 PM PDT by tbird1
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To: Pokey78
This is the equal to the subliminal accusation. It is pure fiction. Something from nothing and then a BIG BANG! and voila! Scandal.
41 posted on 09/25/2002 8:41:56 PM PDT by RAT Patrol
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To: Hillary's Folly
Hey, somebody tell Daschle that sometimes - THE TRUTH HURTS. I'm just glad GW had the balls to tell the truth.
42 posted on 09/25/2002 8:46:10 PM PDT by TheBattman
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To: Pokey78
Americans Die - Democrats dither


43 posted on 09/25/2002 8:58:43 PM PDT by jimkress
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To: tbird1
I worked for the AF for 13 years -- virtually impossible to get rid of anyone. I think I will take my chances with office politics over unions!
44 posted on 09/25/2002 9:00:59 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Pokey78
Mr, and I do use the term very loosely, Daschle, as to the subject of your want of an apology, I'll quote a much wiser and braver man than you. As General McAuliffe said to the Germans while surrounded by the Germans "Nuts"
45 posted on 09/25/2002 9:42:07 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: Pokey78
He added, his voice growing raspy: "You tell those who fought in Vietnam and World War II they are not interested in the security of the American people," because they are Democrats. "That is outrageous."

What is more outrageous is the rantings of Mr. Daschle and others who have a problem with taxpayers paying him for a defense that he is unwilling to fund. Is Mr. Daschle outraged over the outrageous?

So are are a whole lot of taxpayers.

  • It is outrageous that the Clinton Democrats thought it was OK to look the other way when the WTC was bombed the first time -- almost ten years ago.
  • It was outrageous when the Democrats looked the other way when our soldiers (on a UN peace keeping mission) were being dragged through the streets of Sudan by terrorists -- it was more outrageous that those soldiers requested help, and never got it.
  • It was outrageous that the Democrats would not take seriously the claims of middle east groups who may have participated in the OKC bombing (remember - the press was told to quash all stories of muslim extremists who claimed involvement - it was politically easier to pin it all on one man than to investigate a group of people who may have had a bad case of Gulf War Retaliation Syndrom) -
  • It was outrageous for the Democratic White House to bomb an aspirin factory to distract the fact that the president was about to be impeached, and to not demand enhanced security when the USS Cole was bombed -
  • It is outrageous that the Democrats think so little of their fellow Americans that they would further jeopardize their security by not investigating why the INS (Ted Kennedy is in charge of that agency) allowed terrorists into America for the past ten years.
  • It is even more outrageous that this agency still has no means of knowing who it let in the country, whose visas are expired, or where these people are. (Yes, this is the agency that extended suicide bombers visas months after 911).
  • It is outrageous that the Democrats permitted an impeached president to further jeopardize the US by pardoning convicted terrorists (that includes economic terrorists such as Rich) for the sole purpose of funding elections.
  • Waco was outrageous, so was Ruby Ridge, so was the Elian Gonzalez Raid, the "Bubble Economy," and much, much more. Outrageous? You bet.

    Today's Democrats would rather be courting third world countries (Indonesia), Bhuddist temples, union thugs, environmental extremists, and every other fringe group to fund elections, further political egos, and enhance socialist agendas. Mr. Daschle, the Democrats you pointed out who served our country, are not the same noble men who fought in Viet Nam or WWII - those were the men with the guts to put America first before their political party.

     

     

     

    46 posted on 09/25/2002 9:43:59 PM PDT by tomball
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    To: solo gringo; PhiKapMom
    IMHO DASCHLE HAS PMS.

    Pre-Minority Syndrome?

    47 posted on 09/25/2002 9:47:44 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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    To: gov_bean_ counter
    If he would have started yelling 'LICK ME, LICK ME', then the men in white should have tackled him!
    LOL!
    48 posted on 09/25/2002 9:53:36 PM PDT by rockfish59
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    To: stevem
    What do you expect from a state where the state bird is a mosquito?
    49 posted on 09/25/2002 9:53:38 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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    To: Post Toasties
    Of course they'd elect a pea brained midget blood sucker to the Senate.
    50 posted on 09/25/2002 9:55:02 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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