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What was the Mexicans' version of the Alamo attack?
SD ^ | CECIL ADAMS

Posted on 09/26/2002 12:00:32 PM PDT by Sir Gawain

What was the Mexicans' version of the Alamo attack?


Dear Cecil:

For years I have seen films and TV shows and have read magazines and books on the subject of the Alamo. And I can only seem to find the Texans' version of the attack. Since there was only one survivor (Ms. Dickinson, wife of the slain captain), how is it that so much detail from her story could work its way into the many other stories surrounding the battle? What do the Mexicans say about it? Did they have heroes equal to the legends of Bowie or Crockett in their ranks? Find that out, bub! --V.A., Washington, D.C.

Cecil replies:

Show some respect, pipsqueak, or I'll squash you like an insect. Let's straighten out a few facts first. There was not just one Texan survivor at the Alamo, but six: three women, two children, and a black male servant. In addition, sympathizers from the town of San Antonio across the river from the Alamo were sneaking in and out of the fort more or less continuously during the siege preceding the massacre, so there was no lack of Texan witnesses to the whole affair.

Still, the most detailed reports of the battle itself come from Mexican soldiers. It turns out that the stirring stories of heroic deeds so cherished by Texans were arrived at mostly by that creative process we call "making it up," the basis of much American history.

One of the longest and possibly most objective accounts of the Alamo's last stand was written by one Jose Enrique de la Pena, a lieutenant colonel with the forces of the Mexican president-general Santa Anna. He was critical of the leadership on both sides, particularly his own.

For instance, when Mexican forces first arrived at San Antonio on February 23, 1836, the Texans were sleeping it off from a rousing party the night before, and the Alamo (a converted mission) was guarded by only ten men. Rather than move swiftly, though, the Mexican commander dawdled, permitting the Texans to raise the alarm and scramble their forces into position.

As it happened, the defenders were about as disorganized as the Mexicans. They had a clumsy system of dual leadership, with the regular forces commanded by William Travis while the volunteers answered only to Jim Bowie. The Texans had not bothered to store much food or ammunition, and they had nowhere near enough men to defend their fort, a large, irregularly shaped compound whose walls were crumbling in places.

The Mexican troops, for their part, were poorly paid, ill-fed, and haphazardly trained, and had been exhausted by a grueling march over the desert. Even so, morale was reasonably high. The Mexicans with some justice regarded the Texans as murderous barbarians. Indeed, one of the reasons the Texans were so determined to win independence from Mexico in the first place was that the Mexican constitution outlawed slavery, which the Texans favored.

Having lost the advantage of surprise, Santa Anna could have done two things: simply bypass the Alamo altogether, since it was of little strategic value, or wait until his artillery arrived, which would simplify breaching the fort's defenses. He did neither, opting instead for a rash attack instead on March 6--according to rumor, says de la Pena, because Santa Anna had heard that Travis and company were on the verge of surrendering, and he didn't want to win without some battlefield heroics first.

The assault was a nightmare. Advancing on the fort, the Mexicans were ordered to commence firing while still out of range, with the result that they had to reload under the Texans' guns. Scaling ladders were inadequate, and the Mexican soldiers were forced to scrabble over the walls on the backs of their fellows. Once the Mexicans were inside, the battle degenerated into a melee, with soldiers shooting at their comrades as often as at the enemy.

When it was all over, seven captured defenders, including Davy Crockett, were brought before Santa Anna. He ordered them killed, and they were hacked to death with sabres. American losses are variously given as 182, 188, and 253, while the Mexicans lost more than 300, de la Pena says. All in all, it was not a heroic episode for anyone concerned.

--CECIL ADAMS


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1 posted on 09/26/2002 12:00:32 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
As far as Santa Anna was concerned, he didn't give a fig about Texas territory. It was a wag-the-dog action for him, a distraction from his fiscal mismanagment of the state coffers. There were so few people in Texas at the time that they couldn't have created a traffic jam if they all met at a single street intersection at one time.
2 posted on 09/26/2002 12:06:29 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Texasforever; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; westexan
Texas Ping
3 posted on 09/26/2002 12:07:51 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Sir Gawain
The other night, we were eating at this Mexican food place called "The Alamo." It's a small, family run dive. They had only one person working in the kitchen, and it took them 45 minutes to get our order out to us. At about minute number 40, in our famished state, we decided all those Texans died must have died at the Alamo not from an attack, but from starvation--the Mexicans were supposed to bring the food and never did.
4 posted on 09/26/2002 12:10:05 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana
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To: Sir Gawain
Santa Ana said "We would have had more than 6000 troops there, but we only had 3 cars."
5 posted on 09/26/2002 12:10:47 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Sir Gawain
I just got through reading that, and was going to post it.

I'm glad you did.

6 posted on 09/26/2002 12:11:08 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: RightWhale
Santa Ana had a statue of himself erected in Mexico City, with one arm upraised, pointing northward towards Texas. Wags in the capitol noted that he was also pointing to the National Mint :o)
7 posted on 09/26/2002 12:13:14 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Sir Gawain
What was the Mexicans' version of the Alamo attack?

For the answer to that question, just wait until the ultra-commie pinkos at Disney (Walt's probably up to about 10,000 RPM these days) film and release their upcoming movie on the subject. I can't imagine it would be anything other than 100% anti-American, prospective director Ronnie Howard's platitudes notwithstanding.

DWG

8 posted on 09/26/2002 12:17:13 PM PDT by DownWithGreenspan
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To: DownWithGreenspan
You're not keeping up with the news. Disney only wanted a PG film, and Howard wanted accurate blood and guts--a definite R. Howard walked (or ankled, as they say in "Variety"). Whether the project stays with Disney or goes with Howard, and, if the latter, he can set it up someplace else, remains undetermined.
9 posted on 09/26/2002 12:25:42 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Sir Gawain
I don't see this as being any less slanted the american version. I think there were many reasons texans wanted indepenence. And I don't see how it isn't heroic for people to fight and dying facing greater odds in a hopeless battle. These details don't seem to conflict that much with what I was taught about the alamo. Besides the fact that I didn't know the mexicans screwed up that much.
10 posted on 09/26/2002 12:41:21 PM PDT by manx
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To: Sir Gawain
Battle of San Jacinto. So there.
11 posted on 09/26/2002 12:48:53 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: manx
Also: Several days before the Battle, Colonel William Travis sent his immortal letter to the people of Texas -- and to all Americans. He knew the Mexican Army was approaching, and he knew that he had only a very few men at arms to help defend the San Antonio fortress.

Colonel Travis wrote:

"Fellow citizens and compatriots: I am besieged by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna -- I have sustained a continual bombardment and cannonade for 24 hours and have not lost a man -- the enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken -- I have answered the demands with a cannon shot, and our flag still waves proudly from the wall -- I shall never surrender or retreat.

Then, I call on you in the name of liberty, of patriotism and of everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch. The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily and will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible and die like a solder who never forgets what is due to his own honor and that of his country -- Victory or Death. William Barret Travis, Lt. Col, Commander."

12 posted on 09/26/2002 12:55:13 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: Poohbah
Santa Ana also lost a leg and then gave himself a very nice funeral for it!
13 posted on 09/26/2002 1:01:03 PM PDT by montomike
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Ping

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14 posted on 09/26/2002 1:28:18 PM PDT by P7M13
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To: Tijeras_Slim
On the morning of March 6, 1836, Travis looked over the wall, saw hundreds of Mexicans approaching and said " Hey! Are we pouring concrete today?"
15 posted on 09/26/2002 1:32:55 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: 3AngelaD
"All in all, it was not a heroic episode for anyone concerned.

I'd say this character somehow missed the point made in your #12.

This is usually what it takes.

Thanks.

16 posted on 09/26/2002 1:39:09 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: MAWG
ROFDLMAOTIPIMP!!
17 posted on 09/26/2002 1:39:55 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: ErnBatavia
Thank You. I'm here all week. Try the veal and tip your waitress.
18 posted on 09/26/2002 1:42:18 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: Sir Gawain
"We won."
19 posted on 09/26/2002 1:43:27 PM PDT by tracer
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To: montomike
Talk about having one foot in the grave.....
20 posted on 09/26/2002 1:44:42 PM PDT by tracer
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