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Augusta National Slammed as "Secret Golf Club”
NewsMax ^ | 9/27/02 | Limbacher

Posted on 09/27/2002 11:55:43 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Augusta National Golf Club is a private club. It has 300 members, all of the male persuasion. It is a golf club which owns one of the lushest golf courses in America.

As a private club, it has the right to make its own rules. One of the rules states that Augusta National’s membership is limited to men. That’s the way it has always been and because it is, it irks one Martha Burk, who is chairwoman of the National Council of Women's Organizations.

It also appears to irk USA Today which reports that the Burk woman has fired off letters to six members of the club demanding that they explain how they dare to belong to a men only organization.

"Friday, USA Today reports, "Burk's newest letter will hit the desks of six club members: Rep. Amo [that’s Amory, boys] Houghton (R-N.Y.); Lloyd Ward, CEO of the U.S. Olympic Committee; former U.S. senator turned Coca-Cola board member Sam Nunn; Citigroup CEO Sanford Weill; Motorola CEO Christopher Galvin; and JP Morgan Chase CEO William Harrison.

"We'll ask them for on-the-record statements reconciling their corporate policies with their memberships in Augusta," Burk told the paper.

In a lengthy story in today’s issue, Michael McCarthy and Eric Brady present this golf club as some kind of secret, conspiratorial organization akin to Yale’s infamous Skull and Bones coven.

Augusta National, you see includes among its 300 members some of the nation’s most important men - CEOs of major companies, top political figures and the scions of America’s financial aristocracy. Among the more illustrious members not mentioned by McCarthy and Brady, was one Dwight D. Eisenhower who occasionally lived in a cottage on the grounds. One has a picture of Ike reading this hit piece and hitting the ceiling as he was wont to do when encountering this kind of politically correct advocacy disguised as journalism.

The membership roster, loaded as it is with gentlemen of wealth and accomplishment automatically places the golf club under a cloud of suspicion in the eyes of USA Today which seems to find capitalist conspirators under every bed. What on earth do these people talk about when they get together in private, without a woman in sight. What kind of skullduggery do they plot?

Now it’s bad enough, it seems, that the members are rich, but many, USA Today tells us ominously, are old.

"USA TODAY” the reporters tell us, "has obtained a copy of the long-secret membership rolls for the club that hosts The Masters, one of golf's four major championships. The names on that list tell the tale of an old boys club, emphasis on old: The average age is 72. More than a third are retired. And they come mainly from the country's old-line industries: banking and finance, oil and gas, manufacturing and distributing.”

Obviously a very sinister group.

"The list is interesting as much for who is on it as for who isn't,” the paper tells us, noting that while Warren Buffett, Jack Welch and Arnold Palmer are there, " you won't find the likes of Bill Clinton, Donald Trump or any publicity-loving dot-com billionaires.”

Bill Clinton? In a gentleman’s club?

The club, we are led to believe is not only undemocratic, it is also exclusive. You just can’t walk up to front door and apply for membership - you have to be invited! Bill Gates, allegedly yearned to get an invitation for years before he recently got one.

USA Today actually refers to Augusta National as "golf's secret society,” and goes on to list the membership as composed of "Statesmen and politicians. Several of Augusta's members have spent half their lives in the public arena. But when it comes to their membership, they say little.

"Among those who could not be reached for comment: former Secretary of State George Shultz, former Secretary of the Treasury Nicholas Brady, former Defense Secretary Melvin Laird and former Georgia governor Carl Sanders. Nunn said in a statement: ‘As a member, I make my views known through the club's normal procedures, not in the public arena.’ "

Football’s legendary coach Lou Holtz, recently invited to join Augusta National, told the Atlanta Journal & Constitution: "I have played there many, many times over the years as a guest. My wife has played there and she loves it. We have stayed all night there at the course. She is as excited as I am."

Asked about the question of its absence of women members, Holtz said: "My wife has played there and so did a thousand other women last year. I don't know where the no-women policy is. . . . I don't want to hear 'no women,' because my wife has played there."

"This is a private club," member Ben S. Gilmer of Atlanta, a former president of AT&T told the Journal. "What they say among themselves is a private matter. Other people are trying to inject themselves into a private matter. . . . He [Augusta National chairman Hootie Johnson] speaks for the club, so if he speaks for the club on this issue, he speaks for me on it."

In 1934, the first golfer to win the Masters was Horton Smith, who just a happened to be married to Barbara Bourne, daughter of Singer Sewing Machine Company heir Alfred Severn Bourne who helped finance the complex.

When his daughter married Smith one of her aunts said "Imagine spending all that money to educate Barbara, bringing her up properly to bring distinction to the name of Bourne, then she marries a man named Smith.”

And that, Miss Burk, should tell you what you’re up against.


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1 posted on 09/27/2002 11:55:43 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; dighton; aculeus; general_re
Augusta National Golf Club is a private club. It has 300 members, all of the male persuasion.

So that's their dirty little secret. They have to persuade the men to be --- what?---men?

2 posted on 09/27/2002 11:58:32 AM PDT by Orual
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Martha Burk's organization is run by women and has nothing but women on it's steering committee.
3 posted on 09/27/2002 12:06:18 PM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
This broad needs a big tall glass of shit the f^&k up...

You want a club to join??!!! Go start your own!!

4 posted on 09/27/2002 12:06:48 PM PDT by Fedupwithit
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To: Fedupwithit
that was supposed to be shut...
5 posted on 09/27/2002 12:07:34 PM PDT by Fedupwithit
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To: Fedupwithit
I actually liked your version better. :^ )
6 posted on 09/27/2002 12:09:13 PM PDT by Charlie OK
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To: Orual
As a private club, it has the right to make its own rules. One of the rules states that Augusta National's membership is limited to men.

Excuse me if I remember incorrectly, but is there actually a rule against women as members, or have none been invited to join?
7 posted on 09/27/2002 12:09:25 PM PDT by cryptical
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To: Charlie OK
How do you figure? I bastardized one expletive, only to put in another....TGIF!! : )
8 posted on 09/27/2002 12:10:57 PM PDT by Fedupwithit
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
One of the rules states that Augusta National?s membership is limited to men.

BUZZZ Incorrect. The rule is that all new members must be approved by the other members. They simply have never approved a female member. Now they might or might not be giving preference to men when approving member, but it's important to know the difference between behavior and rules. That's one of the reasons Hootie is being such a stickler, technically there's nothing he can do, no rule change is required. It's up to the members... not to mention we have no idea how many, if any, women even apply for membership.

9 posted on 09/27/2002 12:11:38 PM PDT by discostu
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Can someone give that ugly harpie a bottle of shutthehellup juice? Please?
10 posted on 09/27/2002 12:11:58 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: cryptical
Excuse me if I remember incorrectly, but is there actually a rule against women as members, or have none been invited to join?

There is a rule that prohibits women as members, but they can play the course.

11 posted on 09/27/2002 12:12:03 PM PDT by Orual
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
One of the rules states that Augusta National’s membership is limited to men.

This is a LIE! There membership rules do NOT prohibit female members. They just do not have any.

12 posted on 09/27/2002 12:12:47 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Fedupwithit
ROFL. Great Minds think alike. I didn't even see that before my comment.
13 posted on 09/27/2002 12:13:24 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
It's up to the members... not to mention we have no idea how many, if any, women even apply for membership.

You do not apply for membership at Augusta. You are asked to join.

14 posted on 09/27/2002 12:13:52 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Orual
Wrong. There is no rule against female members.
15 posted on 09/27/2002 12:14:22 PM PDT by Phantom Lord
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Yo broads, you want to have your own top of the line golf course? Form your own women's only club, and fund it yourselves.... jeez. Talk about Penis Envy run amok.
16 posted on 09/27/2002 12:14:42 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
the Burk woman has fired off letters to six members of the club demanding that they explain how they dare to belong to a men only organization.

I wonder if this Burk b/tch ever had to explain how she could dare be a member of a lesbian, socialist, victimologist, womean only organization?

17 posted on 09/27/2002 12:18:43 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Fedupwithit
You were listening to "Bill Clinton" on Imus yesterday, weren't you? LOL.
18 posted on 09/27/2002 12:19:50 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Orual
How do you know such a rule exists?

Have you read the rulebook?
19 posted on 09/27/2002 12:20:07 PM PDT by Guillermo
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To: Phantom Lord
I tried to find Augusta National's rules for membership, but they are private and the membership will not reveal the rules. For all intents and purposes, the rule is: no women members. I have no problem with that, and I don't think they should be bullied by the PC crowd into changing that "rule".
20 posted on 09/27/2002 12:20:17 PM PDT by Orual
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To: HamiltonJay
Talk about Penis Envy run amok.

Some of these broads probably actually have penises. ....and definitely balls.

21 posted on 09/27/2002 12:21:19 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The more I read about this hectoring shrew, the clearer it becomes why some men would seek refuge in a men-only club from this shrill harpy and others like her.

If they did let them in, first they would want 'bathroom parity'. Once they had that, then they would separate exercise facilties.

I'm sure Hootie would give them some special exercise equipment, like brooms, mops, vacuum cleaners and ironing boards.

This ERA era joke, brought to you from the Joke Time Machine, (JTM is a registered trademark of a bunch of old smart asses with too much time on their hands)

22 posted on 09/27/2002 12:22:06 PM PDT by TC Rider
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To: Orual
And, assuming such a rule did exist, SO WHAT?

That's what freedom of assembly is all about: to assemble with those with whom one wishes to assemble.

FORCING a group to assemble with those they don't want to assemble with is taking away their freedoms.
23 posted on 09/27/2002 12:22:13 PM PDT by Guillermo
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Uh ... can someone tell me if the womens' organizations that this "lady" represents allow men as members? Or, better yet, allow Republicans as members?
24 posted on 09/27/2002 12:23:21 PM PDT by tom h
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To: Guillermo
See #20. Why anyone would doubt that the rule exists escapes me. There are no women members, why else would that situation exist? When they were criticized for not having any black members, they admitted a black member. They aren't caving on this issue and I think that it would require a rule change which, up to this point, they seem unwilling to make.
25 posted on 09/27/2002 12:24:17 PM PDT by Orual
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Should Augusta also be allowed to exclude blacks?!
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The answer, of course, is yes. Any private entity should be totally free to discriminate against ethnic groups, cripples, Catholics, redheads or whoever they want to. Anyone who denies this is an evil fascist.
26 posted on 09/27/2002 12:25:16 PM PDT by Sloth
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To: Guillermo
Re: your #23. Before you started shouting, you should have read my #20.
27 posted on 09/27/2002 12:26:05 PM PDT by Orual
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To: Orual
Essentially, it's none of my business, nor is it the business of the public's.

It's a private club. If they choose to only let in left handed golfers, it doesn't make a difference.
28 posted on 09/27/2002 12:27:09 PM PDT by Guillermo
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To: Orual
"The average age is 72."

Nah, I don't want to join anyway.

29 posted on 09/27/2002 12:28:21 PM PDT by Slip18
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To: Guillermo
From my reply #20:

For all intents and purposes, the rule is: no women members. I have no problem with that, and I don't think they should be bullied by the PC crowd into changing that "rule".

30 posted on 09/27/2002 12:29:36 PM PDT by Orual
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
... it irks one Martha Burk, who is chairwoman of the National Council of Women's Organizations

I think I'll start a "National Council of Men's Organizations" just to highlight her hypocrisy.

31 posted on 09/27/2002 12:30:01 PM PDT by watchin
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"We'll ask them for on-the-record statements reconciling their corporate policies with their memberships in Augusta," Burk told the paper.
Funny, I don't recall her outrage when Bill Clinton was accused of rape and also with having sex with an intern. Those were private matters that the public shouldn't be concerned with.
32 posted on 09/27/2002 12:30:34 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
And exactly what does the word "Golf" have as its origin?

Gentlemen Only Ladies Forbidden

33 posted on 09/27/2002 12:30:39 PM PDT by N. Theknow
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Martha Burk is a bat; a nasty, aging, malcontent of an old bat undoubtedly still angry over not having gotten the "right" invitation to the senior prom.
34 posted on 09/27/2002 12:31:21 PM PDT by laconic
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To: Slip18
Nah, I don't want to join anyway.

"...you won't find the likes of Bill Clinton, Donald Trump or any publicity-loving dot-com billionaires.”

You may want to reconsider. Any club with the sense to keep out Clinton and Trump has much to recommend it.

35 posted on 09/27/2002 12:33:30 PM PDT by Orual
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To: Orual
There is no rule against women members, there just arent any who have been nominated to join as members.

I was invited to play there and consider it one of the highlights of my professional life.

And you are correct a member must 'nominate you' there is no application process and telling someone you want to join is a sure way to get off the list.

Bill Gates was nominated by Warren Buffett and Lou Holtz I assume was nominated by Hootie since he played football at the University of South Carolina.

36 posted on 09/27/2002 12:36:50 PM PDT by tip of the sword
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To: Orual; Guillermo; Phantom Lord; discostu
Actually, looking at this quote from Hootie Johnson, it appears there is no rule prohibiting women. One just hasn't been asked to join yet:

    "There may well come a day when women will be invited to join our membership but that timetable will be ours and not at the point of a bayonet.

Note, he did not say anything about changing the rules, merely being invited.

37 posted on 09/27/2002 12:40:18 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Sloth
I was just turned down for membership at the woomon's health club across street, because they said it was for woomon only, and I'm obviously a guy. This is a "for profit" business that advertises for "members" in the phone book.
38 posted on 09/27/2002 12:44:29 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Guillermo
And they Ladies golf team from Georgia Tech is invited frequently to play the course for their college practices.

Sandra Day O'Connor is a golfer and would make a fine member, but they must be nominated to join the club and no one can force them to do it.

39 posted on 09/27/2002 12:44:56 PM PDT by tip of the sword
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Hey Martha:


40 posted on 09/27/2002 12:45:29 PM PDT by MassMinuteman
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To: TomB
Note, he did not say anything about changing the rules, merely being invited.

We don't know what the membership rules are, they won't reveal them, but it seems silly to debate whether or not the rule exists. If they have never been "invited", it means they are not wanted. The membership want to keep it exclusively a men's golf club and maybe it's an unwritten rule written in stone. We have no way of knowing for sure. What we know for sure is that there are no women members.

41 posted on 09/27/2002 12:48:07 PM PDT by Orual
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To: Orual
How about this then:

    "Johnson has said the club has no exclusionary policies, although it has never had a female member its 69-year history and only welcomed its first black member in 1990. In response to Burk's letter, Johnson defiantly said that Augusta National will not be "bullied, threatened or intimidated" to add female members.

42 posted on 09/27/2002 12:53:00 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Orual
I was just joshing you. I would not want to join a men's club anyway. I mean, men don't talk about draperies and stuff!

If I had an exclusive women's club going, I sure as heck wouldn't want to have to invite some guy because someone told me I had to invite some guy.

43 posted on 09/27/2002 12:54:05 PM PDT by Slip18
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To: Orual
Any club with the sense to keep out Clinton and Trump has much to recommend it.

LOL! Amen to that! They can still discern class.

44 posted on 09/27/2002 12:56:29 PM PDT by ELS
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To: TomB
"Johnson has said the club has no exclusionary policies, although it has never had a female member its 69-year history...

Common sense prevails here. If they have never had a female member, there must be some exclusionary policy, written or unwritten. Read the subtext.

45 posted on 09/27/2002 12:57:33 PM PDT by Orual
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To: Orual
Actually people were wondering whether Bill Gates would get in because he told Buffett that he really wanted to join.

But he was admitted this year, and with it came speculation that the TV may go to a pay per view tourney on the Yankees Network and possibly a tie in with footage on Microsoft sites.

46 posted on 09/27/2002 12:59:41 PM PDT by tip of the sword
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To: Orual
Common sense prevails here. If they have never had a female member, there must be some exclusionary policy, written or unwritten. Read the subtext.

How about we just read the TEXT? From Johnson himself:

    BACKGROUND OF AUGUSTA NATIONAL GOLF CLUB AND THE MASTERS TOURNAMENT

    Augusta National was established in 1932 by legendary golfer Bobby Jones as a place where kindred spirits could meet to enjoy the game they love, in privacy. The original members were essentially personal golfing friends of Bobby Jones and the other founders of the Club. The Club functioned in this capacity when it was decided in 1934 to have an invitational golf tournament with specially invited professionals of the day. This invitational tournament, in what was at the time a small Georgia community, became the Masters.

    Except during the Masters, Augusta National has not changed from what was envisioned by its original founders - a small, private club for the enjoyment of golf. The Masters, however, has changed. The Masters is one of the four major golf tournaments in the world and traditions surrounding the Masters have become part of the traditions of golf. Augusta National has an obligation to the game of golf. We accept this responsibility and will continue to fulfill it to the best of our ability.

    Augusta National, which has less than 300 worldwide members, has no membership restrictions based on race, color, religion, gender or national origin. Our society is changing, and it is only natural that our Club should reflect these changes in contemporary society. We are finding more and more, our existing members' suggestions for new members have broadened to include a varied cross section of this society. We expect this trend to continue.

    Augusta National has no timetable for change, as any such timetable would be artificial and unrealistic. We can say, however, that our membership procedures will be administered in accordance with the principles above. We will continue to respect the privacy and the enjoyment of golf for our membership, and we will continue to preserve and protect the traditions of the Masters Tournament, for the good of the game.


47 posted on 09/27/2002 1:01:28 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Don’t you just know that Martha Burk was one of those children at kindergarten who liked to knock over the bricks that other kids had stacked up?
48 posted on 09/27/2002 1:03:50 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: tip of the sword
I'm so glad that there is at least one organization who has the fortitude to stand up to these extortionists.

To the bitches who are campaigning against Augusta National, the fact that the chairman is named "Hootie" is one of the factors that drives them.
49 posted on 09/27/2002 1:05:33 PM PDT by Guillermo
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To: TomB
As I said it is silly to debate the point. Their policy is, at this point, not to admit women. Period. That's what the NOWers are complaining about and that's the point Hootie refuses to concede. Augusta needs no heated defense, by the way. It's a private club, with private rules. End of story.
50 posted on 09/27/2002 1:07:11 PM PDT by Orual
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