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"Police Arrest Witness Accused Of Lying To Sniper Investigators"
NBC affiliate WRC-TV News Ch. 4 ^ | October 18, 2002 | WRC-TV News Ch. 4 / Associated Press

Posted on 10/18/2002 4:57:12 PM PDT by Hail Caesar

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At the very least, I hope this story is of consolation to all those van-driving, Hispanic and "Middle Eastern looking" men who had M-16s, MP5s and other true "assualt weapons" shoved in their faces by FBI and ATF officers during all those traffic jams caused by police roadblocks last Monday night.

I now laugh with contempt for all those racists and bigots here who were so quick to ASSume that the shooter(s) is a Muslim or even Al Qaeda, just because that particular stereotype fits their own personal political or cultural agenda. I am not accusing anyone here at FR of racism or bigotry, but, quite frankly, some of the asinine posts I've seen made by cowards hiding behind certain handles here mainly serves to fan the flames of disinformation and the anti-RKBA fear mongering crap dominating the American media these days. And besides, a TRUE conservative would have waited until the facts were in rather than jumping to conclusions as quickly as some do here on FR. Just because we (some of us) are "conservatives" does not mean we should suffer from that "tunnel vision" that Chief Moose continues to emphasize in this case.

IMHO, we FReepers should really be focusing on helping our local police forces catch this murderer(s) while also helping to preserve all our civil and constitutional rights.

'Enuff said. /rant off. Flame retardant suit on. ;-)

1 posted on 10/18/2002 4:57:13 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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2 posted on 10/18/2002 4:57:37 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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3 posted on 10/18/2002 4:58:31 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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4 posted on 10/18/2002 4:59:12 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: Hail Caesar
I now laugh with contempt for all those racists and bigots here who were so quick to ASSume that the shooter(s) is a Muslim or even Al Qaeda, just because that particular stereotype fits their own personal political or cultural agenda. I am not accusing anyone here at FR of racism or bigotry,

Make up your mind.

5 posted on 10/18/2002 5:03:16 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Hail Caesar
It's racist to believe a "middle eastern" type could do this.
6 posted on 10/18/2002 5:05:35 PM PDT by jd777
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To: Hail Caesar
I now laugh with contempt for all those racists and bigots here who were so quick to ASSume that the shooter(s) is a Muslim or even Al Qaeda, just because that particular stereotype fits their own personal political or cultural agenda.

Never mind OK City, A few commerial airliners, WTC..WTC again....Pentagon... al-Qaida strikes all over the globe... and the al-Qaeda playbook that spells out precisely this scenario....

I am not accusing anyone here at FR of racism or bigotry,

You already did....or maybe that wasnt written in your handwriting? Lets see if your boy Matthew Dowdy converted to Islam in the joint or has been approached by any...who knows maybe he is just following orders maybe it was the big reward..

7 posted on 10/18/2002 5:06:52 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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WAAAAAHHHHHH-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

I believe I am but a lowly, "honorary member" of the DeeCee FReeper Chapter due to the MudCave being located in the Capital of the Confederacy, Richmond, VA...how do I become an official member of the DeeCee FReepers and become eligible to buy one of them there kewl "BLACK" jackets with "freerepublic.com" scrawled accross the left breast?!

Seriously...MUD

8 posted on 10/18/2002 5:07:33 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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I never said that. The murderer(s) could actually turn out to be of "Middle Eastern" origin. But, the FACTS have so far not even been "in the neighborhood" and that's why I question the motivations of those who keep beating that unfounded anti-Muslim, anti-whatever (race) drum, which IMHO, has been quite unproductive and distracting at best.
9 posted on 10/18/2002 5:13:17 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: Hail Caesar
Was his first name, Howdy?
10 posted on 10/18/2002 5:15:29 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Mudboy Slim
I honestly don't know, MUD. I am NOT an OFFICIAL member of that particular chapter myself. I just hang out with them once in a while. My bump list for them, which includes you, is an old one from the "Get Out of Chaney's House" FReep days.
11 posted on 10/18/2002 5:15:54 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: Hail Caesar
You want to talk ASSuming, pop on over to the next train deraliment thread. By post 50 they've pretty much nailed the terrorists as being responsible.

As someone else so eloquently said, if FR had an Olympic Jumping-to-Conclusions team, we'd sweep the medals every year.

12 posted on 10/18/2002 5:18:52 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Hail Caesar
I think there has been a fair amount of discussion on FR about all of the theories, plus some of our own theories. They were not all about ME men. Its true that not many here would be surprised if it turns out to be ME terrorists. I don't think you can fault people for that considering the times.
13 posted on 10/18/2002 5:20:21 PM PDT by virgil
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You're quite right, TomB.

But nowadays, around here (the DC area), we have actually seen "black helicopters" popping in and out of our airspace recently - seriously. I'm sure the vehemently anti-UN crowd is having a real fit by now.
14 posted on 10/18/2002 5:25:02 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: Hail Caesar
My God. The awesome power of political correctness- even thou O Caesar.....
15 posted on 10/18/2002 5:26:12 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Hail Caesar
Another witness,a Mr. Young identified the driver as follows; "Young described the driver as a short man of slight build who appeared to be Mideastern.

He said, "I got a good look at the guy."

16 posted on 10/18/2002 5:26:13 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: virgil
I understand your point regarding why in these post 9/11 times ME men have been the most common target of extra scrutiny. However, engaging in wholesale unproductive flames against those of whatever racial/ethnic/religious background who are the "terrorists of the day" these days does nothing to help us catch this perp(s).

And yes, I admit, one of my own personal agendas here is that individual RKBA does not suffer anymore than it already has in these post 9/11 times.
17 posted on 10/18/2002 5:35:17 PM PDT by Hail Caesar
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To: Hail Caesar
Well good. Now we can ALL go back to beating the Anti-White, anti- gun "drum" which is really productive.
18 posted on 10/18/2002 5:37:37 PM PDT by jd777
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19 posted on 10/18/2002 5:45:51 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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I have something to say here. Imagine if the liar was a white guy, after hearing that the liar's nickname was "Slim" and when it took so long for the liar's picture to be shown on TV, I figured he was black. Again, if the liar turned out to be white, we would have seen wall to wall coverage, day and night about how evil "whitey" is and then he would have been called a klan member and yada, yada, yada....
20 posted on 10/18/2002 5:46:27 PM PDT by rambo316
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