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Medical pot patient prevails in court
New Times Magazine (San Luis Obispo, CA) ^ | 17 Oct 2002

Posted on 10/22/2002 9:04:08 AM PDT by MrLeRoy

Donovan No Runner, who staged a month-long "occupation" of the county courthouse steps in San Luis Obispo to protest his arrest and police confiscation of his medical marijuana supply, has been vindicated.

Charges of marijuana possession were dismissed recently, and Judge Barry LaBarbera issued a court order to San Luis Obispo police to return No Runner’s stash. The Native American suffers from a bipolar condition and has a physician’s prescription for the drug. He said he explained that to officers who cited him and took his pot, but to no avail.

"It went as expected," said No Runner’s San Luis Obispo attorney Lou Koory of the court proceedings. "Judge LaBarbera’s ruling was appropriate. Mr. No Runner will get his medication back."

During No Runner’s residency on the courthouse steps, he erected a tent and was accompanied by his wife and infant. Koory said that time, "There’s nothing more American than what Donovan No Runner is doing."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: marijuana; pot; wod; wodlist

1 posted on 10/22/2002 9:04:08 AM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: *Wod_list
Wod_list ping
2 posted on 10/22/2002 9:04:24 AM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: MrLeRoy
and Judge Barry LaBarbera issued a court order to San Luis Obispo police to return No Runner’s stash.

Ummm... that might be a bit of a problem, if you get my drift.

3 posted on 10/22/2002 9:06:51 AM PDT by southern rock
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To: MrLeRoy
I just saw the Simpson's episode where Homer is given a prescription for medical pot. If you haven't seen it you should. It was hilarious!

I am all for medicinal pot, but it clouds the issue of legalization. It is a foot in the door, which is important, but everybody should be able to choose for themselves what to ingest - not just sick folks.
4 posted on 10/22/2002 9:10:50 AM PDT by shempy
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To: shempy
I am all for medicinal pot, but it clouds

<tee-hee>

the issue of legalization. It is a foot in the door, which is important,

It's more than a foot in the door---it's a blow to the cornerstone. Once the demonization of pot is over, the justification for keeping it illegal, while the much more addictive and deadly drug alcohol is legal, dissolves.

but everybody should be able to choose for themselves what to ingest - not just sick folks.

Agreed.

5 posted on 10/22/2002 9:16:07 AM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: shempy
That "evidence" went up in smoke long ago. Used to be the cops just took your dope and you went on your way. It was a fair system which assured a sense of fairness on both sides. That was until the war on drugs became a profit motive for the coffers of gubmint.

I had a friend once who was visiting New York City. She had her car towed. She had about two ponds of good weed in the car under the seat. When she went to the impound lot to get her car back, the weed was gone and she was told to come back and visit anytime. The impound crew was just all smiles and giggles.

6 posted on 10/22/2002 9:36:51 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: MrLeRoy
Pot can greatly increase the heart rate.

It probably does help a lot of people with nausea and pain, but it also doesn't sound too healthy for people with cardiac conditions.

That is what is so funny about the national debate on the matter. One side avers that pot is all on the side of the angels; the other side avers that pot is all on the side of the devils. Both sides sound like they are BS'ing.
7 posted on 10/22/2002 9:59:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: blackdog
"That "evidence" went up in smoke long ago"


Let the truth be told! I'll tell you what bothers me. It just so happens that right before hemp was outlawed in the 30's, there was an article in Popular Mechanics about a hemp processing machine that was going to revolutionize the paper and textile industry. Hemp was going to be in direct competition with logging and cotton. Once you look at the fact's, it's hard not to see that you can basically make anything out of hemp. It only takes 144 days to harvest, less chemicals to process for paper, stronger and more durable than cotton, and unlike trees you dont have to wait a few years for them to grow back. In such a capitalistic society it surprises me that, from an Industrial standpoint, there isn't more of an out cry for a Domestic Hemp Industry. There is major money to be made here. Imagine being able to grow one crop and being able to make about a hunder different things out of it. Hemp dominates every plant known to man in its uses and the fact that you can make paper with out cutting down trees. Hey one less tree cut down is one less thing for the Enviro-freaks to cry about and you know we all love to hear them cry.


Drunknsage
8 posted on 10/22/2002 10:04:45 AM PDT by drunknsage
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To: MrLeRoy
Don't you have any other interests besides drugs? No of course you don't. All druggies have no interests besides drugs.
9 posted on 10/22/2002 10:06:30 AM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Pot can greatly increase the heart rate. [...] it also doesn't sound too healthy for people with cardiac conditions.

Ditto for sex. What of it?

That is what is so funny about the national debate on the matter. One side avers that pot is all on the side of the angels; the other side avers that pot is all on the side of the devils.

False parallel. The "angel" camp is a small minority on the pro-freedom side, whereas the "devil" argument is all the anti-freedom side has.

10 posted on 10/22/2002 10:09:25 AM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Don't you have any other interests besides drugs?

Don't you have any other arguments besides personal attacks?

No of course you don't.

Sure I do: job, family, dog, football, ....

All druggies have no interests besides drugs.

I use no drugs---including the deadly addictive drugs alcohol and tobacco.

11 posted on 10/22/2002 10:12:16 AM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: MrLeRoy
I have never seen the middle argued, that's what of it. People with liver trouble are warned to keep away from alcohol. People with asthma are warned to keep away from smoking cigarettes. People with coronary artery narrowing? Go right ahead and smoke that pot!
12 posted on 10/22/2002 10:17:46 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I have never seen the middle argued, that's what of it. [...] People with coronary artery narrowing? Go right ahead and smoke that pot!

Quote one person who says that.

13 posted on 10/22/2002 10:20:01 AM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: drunknsage
My wife is a parer research chemist and I am a farmer. I know of what you speak of but you are only on the edges. Hemp is warm, soft, durable, makes good paper, clothing, industrial fibers, rope, and so on.....It is not however where all research has been spent for the past 50 years. Flame retardants, machine designs, pulping timber stands, syntheteic fiber manufacturing facilities, and so on. Hemp is also not real durable when less than ideal conditions exist.

That being said, the USDA did a study three years ago on the commercial viability of hemp production here in the US. They came to the conclusion that all the hemp the US could grow and market would be satisfied by twenty acres of production. Of couse today we are importing some 50,000 tonnes of finished hemp goods and Candada is growing over 20 million acres of it and still does not fill demand. Granted much of the interest is by the fringe and it is most likely a trend which will ebb, but it's value as a cash crop should not be dismissed.

I have a hemp shirt that is the softest most durable damn thing I own. I am very pleased. At present I am working on a new product with all the trash wool from my sheep flock. If I can figure a way to mass produce it cost effectively I will be a very wealthy man. Since my real farming focus is on sheep production, I really do not have the energies to jump on the hemp bandwagon.

14 posted on 10/22/2002 10:22:02 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: drunknsage
parer=paper
15 posted on 10/22/2002 10:23:12 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: That Subliminal Kid
"Don't you have any other interests besides drugs? No of course you don't. All druggies have no interests besides drugs."

And the winner is....... That Subliminal Kid for being the first voice of the Anti-Drug crowd. Sounds like a personal attack to me. Can't the anti drug crowd come up with something better than that?
16 posted on 10/22/2002 10:23:30 AM PDT by drunknsage
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To: drunknsage
Funny the envirmentals have a plant that clogs up the rivers over there that grows 3 inches a day. It is not MJ by the way, just a weed that has better properties than MJ ever dreamed of. You have to have a permit to take it across state lines and to test it. A fellow in Alabama wanted to get a permit to grow 15 acres of it to test it and is having a hard time of it. It does not transplant real well via seeds (pods, ect) but by breaking into sections and floating downstream and lodging and taking root. Enviromentals hate it, saying it clogs out other growths and waterways and is durn near impossible to kill. But it's potential as a paper alternative is incredible, shadowing that of MJ.

I'll see if I can dig up the article.

17 posted on 10/22/2002 10:23:50 AM PDT by LowOiL
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To: drunknsage; That Subliminal Kid
Sounds like a personal attack to me.

It's a textbook example.

Can't the anti drug crowd come up with something better than that?

No.

18 posted on 10/22/2002 10:26:00 AM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: blackdog
Thanks for the info. I hear the BMW is using hemp fiber board in the interiors of some of their new cars. I believe it was for dash boards.
19 posted on 10/22/2002 10:30:40 AM PDT by drunknsage
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To: drunknsage
http://www.ljea.org/hydrilla.html

I couldn't find the article I wanted, but here is one describing the plant that outgrows all the others. One article I ran across had it listed as growing 4 inches a day, while another had it less. I think 3 inches was about the average.

20 posted on 10/22/2002 10:40:17 AM PDT by LowOiL
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To: shempy
I just saw the Simpson's episode where Homer is given a prescription for medical pot

"I am all for medicinal pot" Oh! This is enlightning.

21 posted on 10/22/2002 10:53:15 AM PDT by chachacha
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To: shempy

22 posted on 10/22/2002 11:01:40 AM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I understand your line of thinking here - that smoking mj would probably not be good, and in fact may be very bad for people with coronary heart disease. However, I have never heard any suggestion from mj advocates that people with coronary heart disease seek mj for what ails them. Perhaps you could provide a link or a reference to such claims made by mj advocates? I have heard about general pain relief, relief from nausea, headaches (i.e., migraines), and glaucoma from medical mj advocates.

However, your thinking here is flawed beyond this simple point that mj is not advocated for relief of coronary heart disease. The warnings delivered for the products in your list above (liver trouble? - stay away from alcohol; asthma? - stay away from cigs) are for products that while regulated by our society, are nonetheless legal for adults to use. The powers that be (i.e., govt. and medical industry) cannot speak frankly about mj and provide warnings re the implications of mj use for people with coronary heart disease. Giving such a warning would imply that people without coronary disease may be able to use mj with little effect to their overall health. The current establishment rap on mj is that it is as dangerous as cocaine and heroin, and the current drug czar actually argues that mj affects your brain in the same way as does cocaine and heroin. The problem is, when the govt. or medical industry starts talking about the effects of pot on coronary disease, they enter the foray of a discussion of the relative dangers of mj, which is a discussion in which the government does not want to engage. The medical industry cannot discuss the relative risks of mj for specific patients because the government prohibits that discussion. In fact, many oncologists/physicians, if asked, will tell patients they cannot council them on mj use for chemo-induced nausea, but will suggest they use it if it works for them. Hence the status quo actually presents more risk to cancer patients who may also have coronary heart disease if they are inclined to try mj for nausea relief.

23 posted on 10/22/2002 12:05:34 PM PDT by citizenK
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It probably does help a lot of people with nausea and pain, but it also doesn't sound too healthy for people with cardiac conditions.

All drugs are a trade-off between benefits and side effects or addiction. I get annoyed by those that promote pot as the all-purpose wonder drug, but it is very good for certain ailments, like nausea. If people want to smoke it recreationally, fine by me, it's their lungs.

Anyone that tried to take my caffeine would pull back a stump, and I know that it has some deleterious effects on me. It's simply my own choice to make.

24 posted on 10/22/2002 12:20:30 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: MrLeRoy
Now I know this guy! He used to be known as Donovan RunFar before he started smokin' that weed.

So now pot is "the" prescription drug for bipolar disorder. I see; and his prescription form is probably signed: Dr. Timothy Leary.

What a joke! MrLeRoy, you're reaching with these articles.

25 posted on 10/22/2002 12:32:46 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
actually RP, he was known as Donovan Run High, now he is no runner.
But his Bipolar is much better, and who is to say if it helps
him why can't he use it. It should be up to him, not up to some gov't thug.
26 posted on 10/22/2002 12:52:53 PM PDT by vin-one
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To: MrLeRoy
During No Runner’s residency on the courthouse steps, he erected a tent and was accompanied by his wife and infant.

Sounds pretty healthy to me

27 posted on 10/22/2002 12:53:53 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: vin-one
Don't confuse the drug warriors with logic or fact. It could get in the way of their ignorant opinions.
28 posted on 10/22/2002 1:00:49 PM PDT by rebelyell
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To: robertpaulsen
So now pot is "the" prescription drug for bipolar disorder.

Propping up more straw men, I see.

I see; and his prescription form is probably signed: Dr. Timothy Leary.

Cannabis- THC and Bipolar Disorder (Included with patient's petition) Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base [ Institute of Medicine, 1999.]
A. Describes the action of cannabinoids at cellular level as consistent with those that would decrease mania. (See petition notes)
B. Describes side-effect profile as "within the range tolerated for other medications."
GRADE: Good evidence that cannabis side effects fall well within acceptable range. Fair evidence that cannabis reestablishes neurotransmitter balance in some manner that decreases manic symptoms. - http://www.omma1998.org/EG_Bipolar.pdf

29 posted on 10/22/2002 1:35:27 PM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: MrLeRoy
One case?! And they admit that!

I bet I can find a case where a person improved their bipolar disorder when they wore one dress shoe and one tennis shoe. Would this be a breakthrough?

From what I was able to get from your article (thanks) and others is that marijuana is not recommended for any psychiatric illness.

30 posted on 10/22/2002 2:25:03 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: HiTech RedNeck; MrLeRoy
Pot can greatly increase the heart rate.
Let the Surgeon General proclaim forthwith that pot smoking may greatly increase the heart rate.
On the pack of cigarettes I'm smoking right now...
SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Smoking By Pregnant Women May Result in Fetal Injury, Premature Birth, And Low Birth Weight. (the caps are all there just like that and there are about a dozen different "warnings")

Phil's Warning: Abortion by pregnant women does result in fetal injury, premature birth, and low birth weight.
Rank hypocrisy comes to mind. Sorry to have strayed from the topic.

31 posted on 10/22/2002 2:44:43 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: MrLeRoy
You know what the problem is? If people were left alone to medicate or do their whatevers as they pleased, these control freaks would wither away and die; their lives would have no purpose anymore. robertpaulsen would have to get his OWN life instead of annoying his betters. And even the lowest crack-addicted street bum is the better of a drug warrior. Because they will at least die off and their addiction with them if they refuse assistance to get off drugs... the drug warriors keep proliferating through the gooberment propaganda camps (the pubic skools) and it might take a major blood-bath to get rid of these Constitution-raping hyenas...
32 posted on 10/22/2002 2:48:35 PM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: dcwusmc
t might take a major blood-bath to get rid of these Constitution-raping hyenas

I'm afraid you may be right

33 posted on 10/22/2002 2:50:37 PM PDT by clamper1797
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To: MrLeRoy
It might as well be said, for a product that is claimed to "cause ZERO deaths." (That quote can be found with a little Googling. I'll leave it to the reader as an exercise.) Do the "ZERO deaths" people leave out the heart attacks or fatal cardiac arrhythmias? And if you counter that well, nobody says to take pot for heart diseases, I can counter that people who may take pot for other reasons may have heart diseases, even silent ones. I.e. it is not a "ZERO risk" to life. And if you counter that even aspirin has analogous problems, I can counter that at least the warnings are there on the aspirin bottle. Where are the warnings in, say, High Times?
34 posted on 10/22/2002 5:11:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Do you have a source for any marijuana-induced heart attacks or fatal cardiac arrhythmias?
35 posted on 10/22/2002 7:08:29 PM PDT by wienerdog.com
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The amount of caffeine in just couple cups of coffee can cause life-threatening changes in some heart rhythms. Where are the warning labels on my Folgers? You won't find any warnings in Fresh Cup Magazine either. Check for yourself: http://www.freshcup.com/

But hey, just to make you happy, how 'bout we make marijuana legal and put a big fat warning label on it that proclaims:

CAUTION: THIS PRODUCT MAY CAUSE INJURY OR DEATH TO PEOPLE HAVING CERTAIN HEART CONDITIONS. CONSULT YOUR PHYSICIAN BEFORE USING.

That way, I am happy and you are happy. What do you say? Does this work for you?
36 posted on 10/22/2002 7:20:50 PM PDT by shempy
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To: shempy
One thing different about these examples is that it is common knowledge in our country that caffeine will increase heart rate and boost blood pressure. "Coffee nerves" is a well worn cliche. Nobody is suprised to find themselves revved up by a cup of strong coffee or tea.

Whereas the similar cardiovascular effect of pot will come as a total surprise to a lot of newbies. If pot were unbanned this would change in time, but an ethical case for unbanning it is easier to make when those who want it unbanned tell the unvarnished truth. And the unvarnished truth telling should start in places like High Times. I'd say the same thing for coffee and magazines like Fresh Cup if caffeinated drinks were currently verboten and the truth about their effects obscured by heaps of Barbra Streisand from both sides of the issue.
37 posted on 10/22/2002 8:54:41 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I kind of agree with you about the hemp activists. I favor legalization, but not because marijuana can be made into paper, rope, oil, fabric, medicine, etc.

I favor legalization because it isn't the government's business what I ingest so long as I don't hurt anyone or scare the horses.

And quite honestly, I favor legalization because smoking marijuana in the evening after a stressful day at the office is something I enjoy. I remember my dad doing the same thing, except he preffered 2 to 3 gin martinis. I can't handle liquor like my dad could. If I had 3 martinis I would end up having 10 martinis and fighting with my wife. I have 2 or 3 one-hitters on my deck and I hurt nobody.
38 posted on 10/22/2002 9:34:20 PM PDT by shempy
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To: dcwusmc
"And even the lowest crack-addicted street bum is the better of a drug warrior. Because they will at least die off ..."

If only. But they don't die off because our society (our taxes) subsidize these leeches. We provide them health care, deliver their crack addicted babies, provide them with food and shelter.

All hail the AIDS infected, teen-age, prostituting, pregnant crack addict! dcwusmc loves you and wants to make it easier to have more of you.

39 posted on 10/23/2002 7:11:51 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
You don't read well, do you? But then it's not surprising as you don't want facts and logic to interfere with your preconcieved notions. I would not wish there to be MORE addicts. I stated that even the LOWEST was your better. Because they are not sticking their noses into other folks' business and getting people thrown in jail or killed for ingesting an unapproved substance. YOU are the kind of scumbag who sets up the conditions whereby some OTHER scumbag can find it convenient to burn a woman and her kids to death. I hope you're happy with yourself, drug warrior. May you and all your ilk rot in prison along with the scum who set the fire which killed that family.
40 posted on 10/23/2002 8:28:09 AM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: dcwusmc
"I would not wish there to be MORE addicts."

I see. You think that legalizing crack cocaine will result in LESS addicts? Would you call that 'fact' or 'logic'? I would call it stupid, but, hey, what does an honest, upright, tax paying citizen scumbag know about that?

By the way, that brave woman didn't want drugs in her neighborhood and around her children, legal or illegal. Let's leave the blame where it belongs.

41 posted on 10/23/2002 8:44:51 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
OK. The blame for that belongs to YOU, the drug warriors. If you did not exist to imprison or kill people for ingesting unapproved substances, there would be NO DEALERS RUNNING THE STREETS ready to kill to protect their illegal and inordinately profitable turf. We would not have Crips and Bloods and drive-bys and arson that kills innocents. We would not have a shredded Constitution and an impending police state. We would not have asset seizures without even FILING criminal charges.

So thank YOU, robertpaulsen, drug warrior, for contributing to the death of this woman and her children. You should be proud of yourself. It's only every day, pretty near, that someone dies because of you and your nasty ilk. May you AND the firebug spend the rest of your miserable lives in prison. You deserve each other.
42 posted on 10/23/2002 9:16:22 AM PDT by dcwusmc
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To: robertpaulsen
One case?!

No, one scientific article entitled “Cannabis- THC and Bipolar Disorder”.

From what I was able to get from your article [...] is that marijuana is not recommended for any psychiatric illness.

Wrong. "There is good evidence that the petitioner is gaining great relief from his use of cannabis based upon his physician’s assessment as well as the fact that he has remained non-hospitalized since his use began 10 years ago. It appears that Cannabis has managed the manic phase effectively after many unsuccessful medication trials. The side-effect profile is well within acceptable range. It is reasonable to extrapolate from the petitioner’s experience to conclude that there are a significant number of Oregonians who may benefit from medically monitored cannabis use."

43 posted on 10/23/2002 2:15:04 PM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It might as well be said, for a product that is claimed to "cause ZERO deaths." (That quote can be found with a little Googling. I'll leave it to the reader as an exercise.)

Google comes up with two instances of that phrase: "a battle with non-lethal weapons will cause zero deaths" and "plutonium dioxide will cause zero deaths". So where's the evidence that drug-freedom supporters say people with coronary artery narrowing should smoke pot?

44 posted on 10/23/2002 2:23:07 PM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: HiTech RedNeck
So where's the evidence that drug-freedom supporters say people with coronary artery narrowing should smoke pot?
45 posted on 10/24/2002 7:32:32 AM PDT by MrLeRoy
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