Medical pot patient prevails in court

New Times Magazine (San Luis Obispo, CA) ^ | 17 Oct 2002

[MrLeRoy]

Donovan No Runner, who staged a month-long "occupation" of the county courthouse steps in San Luis Obispo to protest his arrest and police confiscation of his medical marijuana supply, has been vindicated.

Charges of marijuana possession were dismissed recently, and Judge Barry LaBarbera issued a court order to San Luis Obispo police to return No Runner’s stash. The Native American suffers from a bipolar condition and has a physician’s prescription for the drug. He said he explained that to officers who cited him and took his pot, but to no avail.

"It went as expected," said No Runner’s San Luis Obispo attorney Lou Koory of the court proceedings. "Judge LaBarbera’s ruling was appropriate. Mr. No Runner will get his medication back."

During No Runner’s residency on the courthouse steps, he erected a tent and was accompanied by his wife and infant. Koory said that time, "There’s nothing more American than what Donovan No Runner is doing."

[MrLeRoy]

Wod_list ping

[southern rock]

and Judge Barry LaBarbera issued a court order to San Luis Obispo police to return No Runner’s stash.

Ummm... that might be a bit of a problem, if you get my drift.

[shempy]

I just saw the Simpson's episode where Homer is given a prescription for medical pot. If you haven't seen it you should. It was hilarious!

I am all for medicinal pot, but it clouds the issue of legalization. It is a foot in the door, which is important, but everybody should be able to choose for themselves what to ingest - not just sick folks.

[MrLeRoy]

I am all for medicinal pot, but it clouds

<tee-hee>

the issue of legalization. It is a foot in the door, which is important,

It's more than a foot in the door---it's a blow to the cornerstone. Once the demonization of pot is over, the justification for keeping it illegal, while the much more addictive and deadly drug alcohol is legal, dissolves.

but everybody should be able to choose for themselves what to ingest - not just sick folks.

Agreed.

[blackdog]

That "evidence" went up in smoke long ago. Used to be the cops just took your dope and you went on your way. It was a fair system which assured a sense of fairness on both sides. That was until the war on drugs became a profit motive for the coffers of gubmint.

I had a friend once who was visiting New York City. She had her car towed. She had about two ponds of good weed in the car under the seat. When she went to the impound lot to get her car back, the weed was gone and she was told to come back and visit anytime. The impound crew was just all smiles and giggles.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Pot can greatly increase the heart rate.

It probably does help a lot of people with nausea and pain, but it also doesn't sound too healthy for people with cardiac conditions.

That is what is so funny about the national debate on the matter. One side avers that pot is all on the side of the angels; the other side avers that pot is all on the side of the devils. Both sides sound like they are BS'ing.

[drunknsage]

"That "evidence" went up in smoke long ago"


Let the truth be told! I'll tell you what bothers me. It just so happens that right before hemp was outlawed in the 30's, there was an article in Popular Mechanics about a hemp processing machine that was going to revolutionize the paper and textile industry. Hemp was going to be in direct competition with logging and cotton. Once you look at the fact's, it's hard not to see that you can basically make anything out of hemp. It only takes 144 days to harvest, less chemicals to process for paper, stronger and more durable than cotton, and unlike trees you dont have to wait a few years for them to grow back. In such a capitalistic society it surprises me that, from an Industrial standpoint, there isn't more of an out cry for a Domestic Hemp Industry. There is major money to be made here. Imagine being able to grow one crop and being able to make about a hunder different things out of it. Hemp dominates every plant known to man in its uses and the fact that you can make paper with out cutting down trees. Hey one less tree cut down is one less thing for the Enviro-freaks to cry about and you know we all love to hear them cry.


Drunknsage

[That Subliminal Kid]

Don't you have any other interests besides drugs? No of course you don't. All druggies have no interests besides drugs.

[MrLeRoy]

Pot can greatly increase the heart rate. [...] it also doesn't sound too healthy for people with cardiac conditions.

Ditto for sex. What of it?

That is what is so funny about the national debate on the matter. One side avers that pot is all on the side of the angels; the other side avers that pot is all on the side of the devils.

False parallel. The "angel" camp is a small minority on the pro-freedom side, whereas the "devil" argument is all the anti-freedom side has.

[MrLeRoy]

Don't you have any other interests besides drugs?

Don't you have any other arguments besides personal attacks?

No of course you don't.

Sure I do: job, family, dog, football, ....

All druggies have no interests besides drugs.

I use no drugs---including the deadly addictive drugs alcohol and tobacco.

[HiTech RedNeck]

I have never seen the middle argued, that's what of it. People with liver trouble are warned to keep away from alcohol. People with asthma are warned to keep away from smoking cigarettes. People with coronary artery narrowing? Go right ahead and smoke that pot!

[MrLeRoy]

I have never seen the middle argued, that's what of it. [...] People with coronary artery narrowing? Go right ahead and smoke that pot!

Quote one person who says that.

[blackdog]

My wife is a parer research chemist and I am a farmer. I know of what you speak of but you are only on the edges. Hemp is warm, soft, durable, makes good paper, clothing, industrial fibers, rope, and so on.....It is not however where all research has been spent for the past 50 years. Flame retardants, machine designs, pulping timber stands, syntheteic fiber manufacturing facilities, and so on. Hemp is also not real durable when less than ideal conditions exist.

That being said, the USDA did a study three years ago on the commercial viability of hemp production here in the US. They came to the conclusion that all the hemp the US could grow and market would be satisfied by twenty acres of production. Of couse today we are importing some 50,000 tonnes of finished hemp goods and Candada is growing over 20 million acres of it and still does not fill demand. Granted much of the interest is by the fringe and it is most likely a trend which will ebb, but it's value as a cash crop should not be dismissed.

I have a hemp shirt that is the softest most durable damn thing I own. I am very pleased. At present I am working on a new product with all the trash wool from my sheep flock. If I can figure a way to mass produce it cost effectively I will be a very wealthy man. Since my real farming focus is on sheep production, I really do not have the energies to jump on the hemp bandwagon.

[blackdog]

parer=paper

[drunknsage]

"Don't you have any other interests besides drugs? No of course you don't. All druggies have no interests besides drugs."

And the winner is....... That Subliminal Kid for being the first voice of the Anti-Drug crowd. Sounds like a personal attack to me. Can't the anti drug crowd come up with something better than that?

[LowOiL]

Funny the envirmentals have a plant that clogs up the rivers over there that grows 3 inches a day. It is not MJ by the way, just a weed that has better properties than MJ ever dreamed of. You have to have a permit to take it across state lines and to test it. A fellow in Alabama wanted to get a permit to grow 15 acres of it to test it and is having a hard time of it. It does not transplant real well via seeds (pods, ect) but by breaking into sections and floating downstream and lodging and taking root. Enviromentals hate it, saying it clogs out other growths and waterways and is durn near impossible to kill. But it's potential as a paper alternative is incredible, shadowing that of MJ.

I'll see if I can dig up the article.

[MrLeRoy]

Sounds like a personal attack to me.

It's a textbook example.

Can't the anti drug crowd come up with something better than that?

No.

[drunknsage]

Thanks for the info. I hear the BMW is using hemp fiber board in the interiors of some of their new cars. I believe it was for dash boards.

[LowOiL]

http://www.ljea.org/hydrilla.html

I couldn't find the article I wanted, but here is one describing the plant that outgrows all the others. One article I ran across had it listed as growing 4 inches a day, while another had it less. I think 3 inches was about the average.