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Scientist Says Ostrich Study Confirms Bird "Hands" Unlike Those Of Dinosaurs
University Of North Carolina At Chapel Hill (http://www.unc.edu/) via Science Daily Magazine ^ | Posted 8/15/2002 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 10/24/2002 1:32:37 PM PDT by vannrox

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Ancestor of birds had five fingers and a thumb?
1 posted on 10/24/2002 1:32:37 PM PDT by vannrox
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"Whatever the ancestor of birds was, it must have had five fingers, not the three-fingered hand of theropod dinosaurs,"

Five fingers, including the thumb. The bird people of Brontator?
2 posted on 10/24/2002 1:38:26 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan; vannrox; *crevo_list

3 posted on 10/24/2002 1:46:42 PM PDT by general_re
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To: vannrox
That explains the Eastern Painted flying turtle...
4 posted on 10/24/2002 1:56:56 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: vannrox
Yet another set back for the improbable theory of creative causation... that's evolution for lay persons.
5 posted on 10/24/2002 2:00:10 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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To: vannrox
Yes, but can they play the piano?
6 posted on 10/24/2002 2:02:16 PM PDT by Consort
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Morphing brains/consciousness spontaneous intelligence/life/matter....ssssssssuuuuuuUUUUUURRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrre!
7 posted on 10/24/2002 2:03:57 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: vannrox
And the guessing game goes on and on and on and on and on...

But if you don't believe in the game, you must, as was contended by a PhD in chemistry on this forum last week, be denied access to post-graduate work in the sciences, including medical school.

8 posted on 10/24/2002 2:06:27 PM PDT by beckett
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To: vannrox
A "two thumbs up" placemarker.
9 posted on 10/24/2002 2:08:35 PM PDT by Junior
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But if you don't believe in the game, you must, as was contended by a PhD in chemistry on this forum last week, be denied access to post-graduate work in the sciences, including medical school.

Who said that?

10 posted on 10/24/2002 2:08:48 PM PDT by general_re
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Junk/HACK/whack 'science'!

Trying to orbit science around darwin...

is like trying to put the sun in orbit around the moon---

HACKWARDS!

Darwin is an assteroid----klunker/HOAX....

no fuel/TRUTH---lotta assh/slag/lies!

Halebopps---cargo cults...govt work/well-fare!

Ape ancestry 'science'/intellectual rejectionist---me!
11 posted on 10/24/2002 2:09:45 PM PDT by f.Christian
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I'm sorry, I only speak English.
12 posted on 10/24/2002 2:16:44 PM PDT by That Subliminal Kid
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The possibility(theory/bias)...

and the probability(reality/facts/evidence)---

is what distinguishes science(creation/God/Truth)---

from fantasy(evolution/lies/mush...religion/atheism +
politics/social engineering)!


13 posted on 10/24/2002 2:18:10 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Evo whack english...mantras/rhetoric---LIES!
14 posted on 10/24/2002 2:19:21 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: That Subliminal Kid
Welcome!

Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!

15 posted on 10/24/2002 2:21:03 PM PDT by f.Christian
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Trying to orbit science around darwin...

is like trying to put the sun in orbit around the moon---

HACK/whack-WARDS!

16 posted on 10/24/2002 2:22:49 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian

Have you heard the story going around about the bio prof in a well-known NorthEast university who is speaking about evolution and notices three guys snickering in the back of the room? "You guys must be fundamentalist Christians" snorts the professor. One of the three replies "No, we're math majors; like, we understand the laws(science)* of probability(reality/evidence)*..."



17 posted on 9/27/02 11:07 AM Pacific by piltdownpig

*...my additions!


17 posted on 10/24/2002 2:35:20 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: vannrox
The article says that previous studies of ostrich embryos didn't show the five digits because the embryos were too far along in development and the other two digits had disappeared.

How do we know that the same thing didn't happened with the dinosaurs? I know we have some fossilized embryos and eggs, but if it took them this long to find the differences in ostrich embryo stages, how can they say that dinosaurs also didn't do this?
18 posted on 10/24/2002 2:39:06 PM PDT by chaosagent
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To: general_re
Right here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/772109/posts
19 posted on 10/24/2002 2:40:57 PM PDT by Gil4
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To: chaosagent
"When we look closely at the universe, we see the hand of God. Likewise, when we view the complex underlying structure and chemistry of life, indications of... God's work---are unmistakable. Scientists, only a few decades ago, were confident that they would soon crack the mystery of life, and would very likely be able to "create" life in test tubes, using only raw chemicals. But the mechanics of life soon proved beyond the most clever of scientists. Sir Francis Crick has noted that the "origin of life seems almost to be a miracle, so many are the difficulties in its occurring." Another scholar, Klaus Dose, says that the solutions to the difficulties in origin-of-life research are "beyond our imagination."
20 posted on 10/24/2002 2:41:37 PM PDT by f.Christian
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