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Rifle was made in Maine
Boston Globe ^ | 10/25/2002 | Globe Staff

Posted on 10/25/2002 9:24:51 AM PDT by jgrubbs

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:08:28 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The firearm is often referred to as a civilian version of the military's M-16. The federal warrant issued against John Allen Muhammad identified the specific model as an A-35, XM15 E2S.

The gas-operated weapon is about 343/4 inches long, and it weighs 7.74 pounds without the standard 10-round magazine that Bushmaster supplies with each model.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: District of Columbia; US: Maine; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: bushmaster; guncontrol; sniperrifle
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What does the location of the gun manufacturer have to do with the sniper case? Is this really news? Or just an attempt to focus on gun control?
1 posted on 10/25/2002 9:24:52 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: jgrubbs
I guess it's Maine's fault that ten people are dead.
2 posted on 10/25/2002 9:25:54 AM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname
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To: jgrubbs
Ummmm... so?
3 posted on 10/25/2002 9:28:15 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson
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To: jgrubbs
What does the location of the gun manufacturer have to do with the sniper case?

All federal gun control laws apply only to guns which have travelled, or whose component parts have travelled, across a state line.

4 posted on 10/25/2002 9:28:45 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian
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To: jgrubbs
What does the location of the gun manufacturer have to do with the sniper case? Is this really news? Or just an attempt to focus on gun control?

Well, I'll try a bit of sarcasm here

Josh Sugarman issued a statement today decrying Maine's gun culture, saying that the ready availability of guns in that state led to an atmosphere where a company can legally manufacture a really scary-looking gun that can actually be used to kill people.

Problem is, some gun-control idiot probably will outdo my hyperbole here.

5 posted on 10/25/2002 9:29:41 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: jgrubbs
At least it's something that wasn't made in China.
6 posted on 10/25/2002 9:30:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: jgrubbs
I wonder if the Globe writes an article on the orgin of every knife and car used in a crime?
7 posted on 10/25/2002 9:31:10 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: jgrubbs
Oh, man! I see where this headed!

As punishment, all Mainers must sing "Dixie" three times (all verses, not just the first) and eat three bowls of grits (but without red-eye gravy.) (Yes, I am mean spirited.)

That'll teach those uppity Yankees to make terror weapons.

8 posted on 10/25/2002 9:31:29 AM PDT by stboz
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To: jgrubbs
"What does the location of the gun manufacturer have to do with the sniper case? Is this really news? Or just an attempt to focus on gun control?"

I'll show you:

Good evening, I'm Dan Rather. in yet another stinging setback for so-called President Bush, in a revelation that could hurt Republicans in the coming elections, it was revealed today that the weapon used by the DC sniper was a .223-caliber semiautomatic rifle made by Bushmaster Firearms, a gun manufacturer in Windham, Maine, the same state that is home to the President's father, former President Geaorg Bush. CBS has been unable to confirm - but we can't rule it out - that those invloved in manufacturing and selling this lethal weapon may have indeed voted for the President.

9 posted on 10/25/2002 9:31:37 AM PDT by wny
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To: jgrubbs
Is this really news? Or just an attempt to focus on gun control?

Given that the source is the Boston Globe, I am assuming that this is a rhetorical question.

10 posted on 10/25/2002 9:32:09 AM PDT by GnL
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To: wny
I bet the sniper indeed voted for Al Gore.
11 posted on 10/25/2002 9:32:39 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: jgrubbs
I guess they don't know that Angusih King and his demorats have been trying to run those nasty businesses out of state.

They don't want their blood money.

12 posted on 10/25/2002 9:32:46 AM PDT by dts32041
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To: jgrubbs
Something is still made in Maine besides "Welcome To The Rich Culture of Somalia" signs?
13 posted on 10/25/2002 9:34:03 AM PDT by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: jgrubbs
Not to toot my own horn but.....


To: aristeides

AK-"47" is chambered for the 7.62x39 round. Much larger, far less accurate but more reliable function-wise.

No, this is most likely a Bushmaster or something similar (probably not actual military issue IMO)

EBUCK

105 posted on 10/16/02 11:37 AM Pacific by EBUCK
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14 posted on 10/25/2002 9:34:43 AM PDT by EBUCK
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To: Lurking Libertarian
All federal gun control laws apply only to guns which have travelled,...

Respectfully, I beg to differ. If Williams had lived in Maine and purchased the weapon from a licensed gun dealer, in Maine, while under a domestic TRO, he still would have committed a federal felony.

15 posted on 10/25/2002 9:35:15 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: jgrubbs
I found this related story in the Globe as well:





Chevrolet

Vehicle was made in Michigan

By Globe Staff, 10/25/2002

The vehicle used by the sniper was a 350 cubic-inch fully automatic transmission automabile made by Chevrolet, an automobile manufacturer in Detroit, Michigan.

The vehicle is often referred to as a land yacht. The federal warrant issued against John Allen Muhammad identified the specific model as an Caprice Classic.

The gas-operated vehicle is about 15 feet long, and it weighs 1.74 tons without the standard 4 round tires that Chevrolet supplies with each model.

The particular vehicle traced through a Tacoma, Wash., auto dealer to Muhammad was outfitted with shorter-than-normal 4 barrel carbureator, which is sometimes requested in law-enforcement orders. The ''shorty'' was manufactured to accommodate a larger air filter, which investigators said the sniper used.

Chevrolet, which has been in business for 96 years and has 75,000 employees, makes about 5,000,000 vehicles a year.
16 posted on 10/25/2002 9:36:25 AM PDT by Grit
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To: jgrubbs
"accommodate a telescopic site"

This reporter knows all about guns. Everybody knows that "short" is bad!

Do I have to give a sarcasm tag?

17 posted on 10/25/2002 9:37:51 AM PDT by Telit Likitis
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To: jgrubbs
I bet the sniper indeed voted for Al Gore.

Probably a few dozen times, too.

18 posted on 10/25/2002 9:37:58 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: Grit
LOL
19 posted on 10/25/2002 9:38:27 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: jgrubbs
The ''shorty'' was manufactured to accommodate a telescopic site, which investigators said the sniper used.

This doesn't make sense. The length of a barrel is not relevant to the accommodation of a scope. Someone was blowing smoke.

20 posted on 10/25/2002 9:38:30 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: jgrubbs
They just want to make some noise over black guns.

Bushmaster is a nice choice for AR-15 style weaponry in my opinion...for the money. Their bullpup ain't half bad either.

Remember when they made the .223 ArmsPistol in the 70s and early 80s with the banana mag that swiveled. I had one as a boat gun. Wish I'd kept it.
21 posted on 10/25/2002 9:40:07 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wny
Good evening, I'm Dan Rather. in yet another stinging setback for so-called President Bush, in a revelation that could hurt Republicans in the coming elections, it was revealed today that the weapon used by the DC sniper was a .223-caliber semiautomatic rifle made by Bushmaster Firearms, a gun manufacturer in Windham, Maine, the same state that is home to the President's father, former President Geaorg Bush. CBS has been unable to confirm - but we can't rule it out - that those invloved in manufacturing and selling this lethal weapon may have indeed voted for the President.

Sorry, Dan...NBC beat you to the punch last night. Brokaw ran with a story last night stating that the CEO of Bushmaster had been a major contributor to the current President's 2000 campaign. That CEO had stepped down from Bushmaster to keep anyone from linking George Bush with the 'gun culture'. Didn't work...they will do whatever it takes to link the president to those EEEEEEEEvil guns. Tom, you're just an anti-American b*stard.



22 posted on 10/25/2002 9:40:25 AM PDT by who knows what evil?
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To: jgrubbs
Oh, the Times has already managed to smear Bush by screaming that Bushmaster Arms was a campaign contributor to the Republican party. Nice folks.
23 posted on 10/25/2002 9:41:54 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: wny
and selling this lethal weapon may have indeed voted for the President.

Who did Williams vote for? Assuming he voted. I'll bet it never was a Republican.

24 posted on 10/25/2002 9:43:35 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: jgrubbs
Or just an attempt to focus on gun control?

You got it! Wait until they show how the Fed Firearms backround check failed to pick up the restraining order on John boy.

It is not going to be pretty. I sense another congressional knee jerk.

25 posted on 10/25/2002 9:44:47 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: jgrubbs
I just hope that they can close the "Auto Show Loophole" before another Caprice Classic ends up in the hands of another unstable individual or, heaven forbid, a child.
26 posted on 10/25/2002 9:46:02 AM PDT by Grit
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To: Grit; CapandBall
Excellent.
27 posted on 10/25/2002 9:46:20 AM PDT by m1911
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To: who knows what evil?
That CEO had stepped down from Bushmaster to keep anyone from linking George Bush with the 'gun culture'.

Were these BrokeJaw's words or the CEO's specific reason for stepping down? Either way I'll be p!ssed.

28 posted on 10/25/2002 9:48:49 AM PDT by Grit
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To: jgrubbs
John Allen Muhammad was made in American. But his trigger finger was controlled by "Allah".
29 posted on 10/25/2002 9:49:22 AM PDT by isthisnickcool
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To: wirestripper
It is not going to be pretty. I sense another congressional knee jerk.

Yup! Sarah Br*dy just got her hair done for the "Assault Cameras".

30 posted on 10/25/2002 9:50:31 AM PDT by elbucko
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To: wardaddy
They also have a good price on once fired, crimped pocket primer .223 brass casings for the very low price of $19.95 per thousand.
32 posted on 10/25/2002 9:53:49 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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What does the location of the gun manufacturer have to do with the sniper case? Is this really news? Or just an attempt to focus on gun control?

The story ran on page A26 of the Boston Globe.
Why are you giving it more play than it deserves in Breaking News?




33 posted on 10/25/2002 9:55:26 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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Is this really news?

Yes, something is still actually manufactured in America!!

34 posted on 10/25/2002 9:56:55 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: jgrubbs
OK... So the gun had a 16" barrel. How do they go on to conclude that it was a Muslim? Are they certain that the gun acted alone? Are there other guns out there who were part of the conspiracy?
35 posted on 10/25/2002 9:57:30 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: jgrubbs
I'd prefer a longer barrel for a sniper rifle.
36 posted on 10/25/2002 10:00:05 AM PDT by biblewonk
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To: biblewonk
Here is a Bushmaster PCWA3S 16" 223 Shorty


37 posted on 10/25/2002 10:01:15 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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Were these BrokeJaw's words or the CEO's specific reason for stepping down? Either way I'll be p!ssed.

That was Brokaw's statement...there wasn't a taped statement from the CEO, although that was the reason Brokaw gave for the CEO's departure.



38 posted on 10/25/2002 10:04:37 AM PDT by who knows what evil?
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To: jgrubbs
It's done by a coward to prop up the tyrants. They're not after gun control. They want no guns at all in the hands of anyone, but the authorities. In fact that want no power at all in any other hands, just bend over, zig-zag and vote democratic. They'll take care of everything.
39 posted on 10/25/2002 10:05:11 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: Squantos; Lion Den Dan; harpseal; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; Sir Gawain; AAABEST; Jeff Head
Never trust a maniac.
40 posted on 10/25/2002 10:05:46 AM PDT by SLB
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To: wny
"Good evening, I'm Dan Rather. in yet another stinging setback for so-called President Bush, in a revelation that could hurt Republicans in the coming elections, it was revealed today that the weapon used by the DC sniper was a .223-caliber semiautomatic rifle made by Bushmaster Firearms, a gun manufacturer in Windham, Maine, the same state that is home to the President's father, former President Geaorg Bush. CBS has been unable to confirm - but we can't rule it out - that those invloved in manufacturing and selling this lethal weapon may have indeed voted for the President."

....and the Somali's who recently immigrated here to escape violence in their own country cannot be encouraged by this news.

41 posted on 10/25/2002 10:08:09 AM PDT by blam
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The gas-operated weapon is about 343/4 inches long

I'll admit I don't know nothing about guns

But what is a gas-operated weapon ???

42 posted on 10/25/2002 10:08:34 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: jgrubbs
Sexy!!!

I'd better go get a couple before they're banned by the ATF.

Thank goodness John Magaw is no longer the head of the TSA! (or ATF, either).

HJ
43 posted on 10/25/2002 10:08:41 AM PDT by HiJinx
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To: ItisaReligionofPeace
I wonder if the Globe writes an article on the orgin of every knife and car used in a crime?

Not likely. Better yet for the Globe, when will we register homosexuals who spread AID's virus, which kills about 12,000 Americans every year. If we could only register them, we would be able to track them and prevent the spread of AID's.

44 posted on 10/25/2002 10:09:03 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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What does the location of the gun manufacturer have to do with the sniper case? Is this really news? Or just an attempt to focus on gun control?

Well, we all know it's just an attempt to make some people or a state look bad.

I know some fine people from Maine... might have to give the economy a boost and get around to buying my own little Bushmaster. :-)

45 posted on 10/25/2002 10:09:24 AM PDT by ken in texas
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To: jgrubbs
It's typical of the Boston Globe. Give the evil gun a personality and a background, then demonize it. That poor Muslim can't help it if he was hijacked by this evil rifle! How many more deaths need to occur before we rid the world of these evil non-sporting machines, freeing terrorists and muggers to go back to picking daisies? It's only 'common sense' to ban them all!
46 posted on 10/25/2002 10:09:28 AM PDT by Sender
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To: jgrubbs
I guess Assault Weapon sounds more interesting than.... Black, Muslim, covert Al Qaida operative - possibly Bi-sexual, pedophile shoots dozens in rampage!

Hmmmm....Maybe not?!?
47 posted on 10/25/2002 10:09:45 AM PDT by SCR1
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To: Mo1
what is a gas-operated weapon ???

It means that a small part of the hot gas that pushes the bullet down the barrel is bled off through a tiny hole in the barrel. This expanding gas cocks the action, ejects the empty cartridge and loads another one.

48 posted on 10/25/2002 10:11:47 AM PDT by Sender
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To: Grit
LOL! With your permission I am going to post that on another tread....
49 posted on 10/25/2002 10:11:59 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Mo1
But what is a gas-operated weapon ???

Requires the operator consume at least one can of beans four hours before using the weapon.

50 posted on 10/25/2002 10:15:02 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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