Posted on 10/26/2002 2:51:40 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
You're likely using it as pun. But just so there's no misunderstanding Putin is referring to this:
The Ethnic and the Social Structure of the Caucasus
Ufuk TAVKUL, Ph.D.
Resume:
Caucasus is the general name of the high mountain range which lies between the Blacksea and the Caspian sea, and the countries of Abkhazia, Adigey, Kabardin, Karachay-Balkaria, Ossetia, Chechen-Ingushetia and Dagestan. Caucasus has been subjected to migration and invasion movements of several tribes and peoples who came from the steppes of Central Asia and South Russia, or Greek-Roman-Byzantine-Genoese trade colonists who travelled from the west by the Black Sea and some tribes who migrated from the south of the Caucasus. All ethnic and socio-cultural elements which have been left by those tribes have reached to our time. Proto-Turk and Turk tribes who came down from the north, like Kimmer, Scythian, Hunno-Bulgar, Alan, Khazar and Kipchak have been effectual on ethnic and socio-cultural structure of Caucasus, as well as Greek-Roman-Byzantine civilizations. All those elements that originated from outside of the Caucasus mixed with ethnic and cultural elements of the native tribes thus a new socio-cultural pattern has been accomplished. Amalgamation of different ethnic groups played a great role in this phenomenon. Individuals or families who passed into an other ethnic group and assimilated in this new ethnic group brought their own cultural elements together. By admission of those new cultural elements, Caucasian peoples accomplished similar structures while they were being mixed with each other ethnically. The conflict and relation between the nomadic steppe culture of the tribes originating from the north and the settled culture of Caucasians have created social division of labor. As a result of this process private property system occured initiating the process of social stratification among the peoples of the Caucasus. After the fall of Golden Horde empire in 14th century, the first feudal relations occured among the peoples of the Caucasus. Feudal system and social stratification was established among Kabardians in complete form and spreaded out among some Adige tribes and Karachay-Balkarians who were under influence of Kabardians. Feudal system was at its complete level in 19th century but it couldn’t live its natural development and it came to an end after Russia has conquered the Caucasus in 1864. It is possible to see the traces of feudal system and social stratification in customary law and family structure of Caucasian peoples. In mythological old believes of Caucasian peoples and in their old religions paganism can be seen. In old believes of Karachay-Balkarians shamanism of Turkic tribes of Central Asia call attention while in Adige and Abkhazians the influence of Greek-Roman civilization can be seen. Christianity has also been influential since 6th century among the Caucasian peoples, but it lost its effect in a time. Today Caucasian peoples have become closely related nations after a process of mixing ethnically and socio-culturally for hundreds of years. So it is not correct scientifically, to classify the Caucasian peoples according to the criteria of race and ethnic origin. Caucasian peoples can only be classified according to the language groups.
http://caucasus.8k.com/index-eng.htm
You didn't answer my question. What part of the petroleum-based economy are YOU giving up? I see you're still using that petroleum-based computer....built and powered by petroleum-generated electricity....
I imagine the Sun King wore just such a smirk as I can visualize on your face as you type this smug sentiment when he said: Apres moi, le deluge.
I wonder if he saw the heads of his grandchildred being lopped off amid deep-throated cheers and faces distorted with glee and hate.
Apres nous, le deluge---eh?
I say we challenge ourselves to a crusade to free ourselves of oillah in one decade--and the developing world too, whose main cause of crippling debt is dependence upon OIL (and who therefore rely upon American taxpayers to foot the bill when the debt they cannot pay is forgiven).
Allah will be collateral damage on the road-side of economic history....
It is not the oil economy in and of itself that supports Islam. We could be energy independent in this nation with our own reserves, nuclear power and alternatives ... and still be a mostly petroleum based economy. It is the dependancy on their oil that is the problem.
I believe we should remove our dependancy on Arab oil. We do that by exploiting our own substantial reserves currently locked away by useful idiot environazis and by developing the alternative sources like we should (nuclear, wind, hydro, etc.) ... and by taking the reseves of any of those nations over there who attack us or abett and harbor those who do. When we own them, we are not dependent on Arab oil any more. Make the first example Iraq.
You earlier reference regarding Waco and who was governor at the time was clear in its context, particularly when you added Ruby Ridge. Your implication that is was the Bush's in both cases was clear. You were wrong on Waco, you would be much more credable if you simply admitted your error instead of trying to cover it up yourself IMHO.
I agree that neither side of the aisle has done what it should have done in either case to get to the bottom of either, or on any number of other issues. That is a problem that has developed over decades, but is one that I believe we are making progress on and will continue to do so.
However, that's not what I hear LaBelle saying. Perhaps she's not making herself clear, perhaps I have a perception problem, but:
What I hear her saying is very close to what I hear from certain radical environmentalists I'm acquainted with - notice her references to SUVs, etc. These people feel that most modern conveniences are evil, earth-killing inventions - however, most of the ones I know are not willing to give such things up personally.
I still want to know what she herself has done to eliminate her dependence on the "oillah", and although I've asked twice now (and Miss Marple has asked as well) I've yet to receive an answer - only more insults, ad hominems, and environmentalist platitudes.
None that I am aware of did. That is because at eart, most of them are really a bunch of elite/marxists using that issue to advance their agenda... and the using the naieve "useful idiots" they can get to climb on the bandwagon.
The Russians should be congratulated for taking the very tough decision and dealing with the situation instead of allowing the Islamic murderers to continue in control of events.
The sadness from this is all at the doorstep of the Islamic enemy of all decent peoples. We are seeing WW III unfold before our eyes, and it is hard to identify because it doesn't look like the world wars of the past century.
But Russia will again be our ally in this one. Let us hope that our diplomatic wish -- to "show" other Islamics that we are "against" them -- will not hinder either the U.S. or Russia from supporting each other where it is needed. Chechnya and Iraq.
Foxnews had Amy Kellog on from Moscow and the gas used has caused some problems, pretty potent stuff!
Why screw around with penny-ante domestic stuff? When we take Iraq we own 20% of the world's production.
That's not how we operate, however ....
Reading this, I'm thinking of the company which was trying to do research off the coast of Cape Cod, to determine the feasibility of using wind power to generate electricity there.
The environmentalists were trying to shut them down, for fear that the windmills would kill sea birds.
Just as they've effectively shut down most of the new nuclear plants in this country.....
Yes, but the rest of the world can't. The developing world would continue to be dependant upon mohammedan oil and, therefore, Western financial institutions would be intimately invested in allah's oil. And where Western financial institutions go, Western taxpayers cannot be far behind to bail them out.
By the way, I am no fan of the current "green" movement, which, I believe is funded by the oil oligarchy. Why do I think that? Because the SOLE effect of green activism in the last 30 years has been the total reinfocement of the STATUS QUO in energy production and economic consciousness.
There's oil money behind these global ecology agreements like Kyoto. The purpose of these highly bureaucratic agreements is to preserve the status quo--with a heavier tax burden on the so-called "rich" nations-- while bringing the developing world into the web.
All of these rich, white, "green" students are the perfect front for the status quo. Not only are they ignorant, they are arrogant---the perfect form of acceptable "white supremicism". We only want to help our poor little black and brown brothers. Help them do what? Why, to become as dependant upon oil as we are, of course.
You watch. In a very few years the WTO and the World Bank will start inviting these useful dopes to their confabs in Davos to "adivise" the old grey beards on how best to get everyone equalized in the world. Meaning equally submissive to the oil oligarchy.
What is the color of mohammedanism? Green, of course.....
Montana is a perfect example of how the "environmental" movement serves to Third-World-ize certain sections of our country and to entrench the rich and powerful even more snugly.
Working farms, ranches, mines, mills--all closed. All having provided families with a healthy and prosperous life. Now many of these people work as serfs on the designer ranches of the Beautiful People when they come up to play cowboy for three months a year. The wives clean the toilets in the marble 20X20 bathrooms of the "ranch" houses.
The products they once provided to the nation and the world are now produced on corporate latafundia in the "third world".
I guess it's just kismet--as the peaceful mohammedans say....
Oil is a blessing. This resource has fueled prosperity, health and enlightenment. Oil is a good thing. That's why it's so popular.
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