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Senator is killed in plane crash [Tragedy in Eveleth]
Miami Herald Online ^ | Saturday, October 26, 2002 | BY JAMES KUHNHENN AND SUMANA CHATTERJEE

Posted on 10/26/2002 3:57:54 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

WASHINGTON - Sen. Paul Wellstone, a Minnesota liberal who was locked in one of the tightest reelection contests in the country, died Friday with his wife and daughter, three aides and two pilots in a plane crash in northern Minnesota. Continues.

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Tragedy in Eveleth

As a dyed-in-the-wool conservative, there were few issues -- very few issues -- Minnesota's Paul Wellstone and I would see eye-to-eye on, but the Senate's most unabashed liberal, I hasten to say, was more than a worthy opponent.

Dubbed a "60s radical" by Mother Jones, the former Carleton College professor-turned-Senator was resolutely true to his beliefs, a liberal's liberal, tenaciously championing often-times daringly unpopular causes and positions, heedless of the risks, politically. An example was his 'no' vote on a resolution authorizing military action against Iraq, the only Democrat locked in a tight race to do so. The measure earlier this month sailed through the Senate, 77-23. Another was his vote against the hugely popular Welfare Reform Act of 1996, at the time again the only Democrat up for re-election casting a nay vote.

Indeed, the North Star State's senior Senator, who proudly bedecked his Senate offices with posters and pictures of Hubert Humphrey and Bobby Kennedy, was, in many ways, the very antithesis of the modern-day, phony-baloney Democrat Party. Sen. Wellstone eschewed poll-driven politics, he hated the two-faced, the devious, the insincere. Unlike most of his colleagues, he stood for something -- firmly, intently.

He delivered his speeches with the fervor and intensity, the ardor and zeal of a Sunday morning Baptist preacher. No-one slept when Wellstone spoke.

President Bush calls him "a man of deep convictions."

Scoring a stunning upset in 1990 against GOP Sen. Rudy Boschwitz, Professor Wellstone, whose old and decrepit green campaign bus became symbolic of his longshot bid, came to Washington loathing North Carolina's conservative Sen. Jesse Helms. Not long afterwards, the firebrand liberal was warmly singing his praises on the floor of the Senate.

It's why even his staunchest rivals have nothing but good things to say about Sen. Wellstone, who crossed the aisle only rarely, yet was always polite, decent, cordial, gracious, attentive. Wellstone, to borrow an oft-used cliche, could disagree without ever being disagreeable.

Times like these reminds us all how very fragile, how very precious, how very fleeting life truly is.

His doomed twin-engine plane crashed in a marshy, wooded area in northern Minnesota, tragically taking his life and that of his wife, Sheila, and his daughter, Marcia.

The world will be a lonelier place without them.

My heart goes out to David and Mark, Wellstone's two sons, and all his family and friends.

Anyway, that's...

My two cents..
"JohnHuang2"



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1 posted on 10/26/2002 3:57:54 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ladyinred; ...
The computer repairman couldn't make it yesterday. Hopefully, hopefully today. God bless =^)
2 posted on 10/26/2002 3:58:20 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Imho, Paul Wellstone was an honest man. He would come straight out and say he wanted to raise your taxes for some socialist scheme. There are very few liberals you can say that about.

May the Lord hold senator Wellstone and his family in the palm of His hand.

5.56mm

3 posted on 10/26/2002 4:04:25 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: JohnHuang2
Oh, y buenos dias mi amigo.

5.56mm

4 posted on 10/26/2002 4:05:14 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: JohnHuang2
The plane was identified as a twin-engine turboprop made by Raytheon.

(A King Air Beech A100)

The pilot had reported no problems before the crash and there was no severe weather in the area at the time, the Federal Aviation Administration said. Because of overcast conditions, the plane would have been on instrument approach at the time of the crash.

A staffer for Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy, who had been campaigning with Wellstone, said Wellstone had earlier left Kennedy giving a speech on his behalf, and departed on his plane to attend a funeral. Kennedy was not on the plane.

Anyone know who it's registered to?

5 posted on 10/26/2002 4:15:00 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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To: M Kehoe
Imho, Paul Wellstone was an honest man. He would come straight out and say he wanted to raise your taxes for some socialist scheme. There are very few liberals you can say that about.

Well, then, it's too bad he was on the wrong side of the fence.

6 posted on 10/26/2002 4:15:23 AM PDT by john in missouri
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To: Bad~Rodeo
Anyone know who it's registered to?

It was a charter flight out of Flying Cloud Airport. I believe it was Executive Aviation.

7 posted on 10/26/2002 4:21:15 AM PDT by Aeronaut
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To: M Kehoe
There are very few liberal who are honest about what they are and he was one. It was interesting how there was talk about the Iraq resolution and how Wellstone could not vote in favor without seeming inconsistent. Implied in the comment is that consistentcy was one of the man's attributes. Almost unheard of amoung Democrats. Moynahan is the only other one that comes to mind.

I liked him. I disagreed with him consistently, but I always thought he believed what he said. Recall he was the only Democrat on the Senate Judiciary committee who said that they were using litmus tests and ideology to block Bush judges. Now everyone knew that was true, but he was the only one, the only one, who would admit it.
8 posted on 10/26/2002 4:22:10 AM PDT by BillCompton
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To: JohnHuang2
I have no use for liberals, and I despise most of them for their dishonesty and win at all costs mentality. However, I will say that at least Paul Wellstone never tried to hide his liberalism behind the false label of 'moderate', and he was never afraid to say what he believed. He was one of, if not the last, honest liberals in Congress.

My sincerest condolences to his family.
9 posted on 10/26/2002 4:22:29 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore)
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To: Aeronaut
Thanks
10 posted on 10/26/2002 4:24:30 AM PDT by Bad~Rodeo
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To: JohnHuang2; Taxman
Dubbed a "60s radical" by Mother Jones,

Paul Wellstone was a commie.

Paul Wellstone went back on his pledge not to run for re-election.

Ask Taxman his opinion of Paul Wellstone.

I think I'm going to puke.

11 posted on 10/26/2002 4:29:49 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother
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To: JohnHuang2
Another Communist who domestic policy was "Steal from the industrious and give to the indolent" and whose foreign policy was "Millions for tribute and not one cent for defence" goes to his well earned reward. It's not a great loss in spite of all the crocodile tears being shed.
12 posted on 10/26/2002 4:31:25 AM PDT by w.t.sherman
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To: JohnHuang2
My condolences to the Wellstones. The man was a true socialist... and proud of it.

May he spend eternity reviewing his voting record and what America stands for.

I am deeply sorry for his wife and eldest daughter.

If only Teddy Kennedy could have taken their two seats!

13 posted on 10/26/2002 4:34:48 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: JohnHuang2
John Edwards is contemplating if he can get away with suing the charter company right now.
14 posted on 10/26/2002 4:35:53 AM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: JohnHuang2
John, that was a very nice thing to say, and I thank you for it.

Senator Wellstone was an opponent, rather than an enemy, and for those who believed as he did, he was a fine avatar.

15 posted on 10/26/2002 4:36:17 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); JohnHuang2
Nice Comments ABG, and nice letter John.

I agree.

I didn't agree with Wellstone on most things, but I respected his convictions.

I was watching C-Span this morning, and they were covering his death. One woman, from the republican line, called in and said it was God's will that caused Wellstone's death, and that she thanked God that this happened. I really flinched at this comment.

No one deserves that kind of treatment.

Unfortunately it gives some people the impression that all Republicans, or conservatives, feel that way.

Thank goodness most don't.

16 posted on 10/26/2002 4:39:56 AM PDT by Northern Yankee
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To: JohnHuang2
Good comments.

I liked Wellstone a lot even if I disagreed with him. He was a straight shooter and believed what he said. He may have been wrong on just about everything but there was no equivocation....a refreshing difference from most pols in either party.

I think of him as a 'Bob Smith of the left' before Bo(o)b went bad and became just another pol himself.
17 posted on 10/26/2002 4:45:42 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: M Kehoe
"May the Lord hold senator Wellstone and his family in the palm of His hand."

Senator Wellstone had no regard for the Lord or His ways. His record on this is clear.

I think it's tragic what happened, but I ask a simple question: whose side was God on? President Bush (who has stood for many moral things), or his vocal, shameless critic? Let's not get fruity, just because the man died tragically.

He wasn't a good man, plain and simple.
18 posted on 10/26/2002 4:58:00 AM PDT by No dems 2002
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To: All
While the plane crash was tragic and I feel sorry for his family, I am glad he is out of the senate. I would much rather have seen him defeated than dead; but I considered him an enemy of everything I believe in and I'm not going to be hypocritical about it now. All this gushing over someone who worked to destroy the country by turning it communist is disgusting, IMO.
19 posted on 10/26/2002 5:02:17 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: Northern Yankee
>I was watching C-Span this morning, and they were covering his death. One woman, from the republican line, called in and said it was God's will that caused Wellstone's death, and that she thanked God that this happened. I really flinched at this comment.

So C-Span finally decided to use the conservative line. Did they wipe off all the dust first? As you know concerning the phenonomena of seminar callers and disruptors, the chances that this woman really was a Repub making such a call are not really that high.

20 posted on 10/26/2002 5:15:06 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: RJCogburn
>He was a straight shooter and believed what he said.

He honestly wanted to steal money from me and make me poor. I don't give credit to such beliefs.

21 posted on 10/26/2002 5:16:32 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: Dialup Llama
He honestly wanted to steal money from me and make me poor. I don't give credit to such beliefs.

Nor do I.

But he let me know he wanted to steal my money, unlike most pols...of both parties....who want to do the same thing to some degree or other, but try to tell me that they really do not.

22 posted on 10/26/2002 5:22:35 AM PDT by RJCogburn
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To: JohnHuang2
Let's consider, no tower or RADAR at Eveleth, plane being handled by ATC at Duluth, low cloud ceiling, low visibility and the pilots operating on IFR (Instrument Flight Rules)...

this sounds alot like the plane crash that took out Ron Brown...

it wouldn't take much to offset the locator beacon thereby causing the aircraft to come out of the clouds in a place other than over the landing threshold!!

Keep in mind he was lagging in the polls and I wouldn't put anything past the demonrats to hold onto the Senate!!

23 posted on 10/26/2002 5:23:24 AM PDT by Nitro
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To: Nitro
Let's consider, no tower or RADAR at Eveleth, plane being handled by ATC at Duluth, low cloud ceiling, low visibility and the pilots operating on IFR (Instrument Flight Rules)... this sounds alot like the plane crash that took out Ron Brown...

Well, hon, I've flown on planes in both areas.

Ron Brown's airport is at the base of a mountain. Despite being a major city, it had minimal approach help for IFR. You miss the airport, you hit the high cliff. Indeed, the Serbs sat on the top of the mountain and shelled Dobrovnik for a couple of years...luckily the town was stone, and survived, although the tourist areas didn't. So the pilot should not have taken the chancy flight.

In Minnesota, however, snow is the rule. Icing is common. Planes crash all the time. When I heard the crash, I was afraid it was the local commuter. The rule is that when it's foggy, you are bussed two hours to the next airport to take off, or go the next day. Right now, you could leave St. Paul with a clear forcast, and an hour later hit icing. (flight time in commuter is about 45 minutes to Hibbing. The real question is why he went to the smaller Virginia airport rather than Hibbing and take a car). Closest thing to northern Minnesota is Alaska in climate and weather. It's already snowed there.

24 posted on 10/26/2002 5:37:11 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: LadyDoc
First of all what I suggested is pure speculation...

second the point still stands, if you break out of a low cloud cover expecting to be over the apron and you see forest all around, it is entirely possible that recovery would be impossible and icing would further rob the aircraft of the necessary lift required to prevent impact!

Although I probably will lay off the conspiracy theory sites for a while!!

Happy Landings!!!

25 posted on 10/26/2002 5:46:11 AM PDT by Nitro
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To: No dems 2002
Tough crowd.

5.56mm

26 posted on 10/26/2002 5:48:01 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Dialup Llama
So C-Span finally decided to use the conservative line. Did they wipe off all the dust first? As you know concerning the phenonomena of seminar callers and disruptors, the chances that this woman really was a Repub making such a call are not really that high

Agree 100%. CSPAN is becoming NPR on TV and the rats calling in on the REP. line is a common thing(assuming these moderators actually push the Rep. line in the first place). Since when does "playing by the rules" mean anything to them, considering their leaders of the past?

After all, there's no legal controlling authority anyway is there?

My sympathies to the remaining family members of Sen. Wellstone, but keeping with the honesty that i've read here about Wellstones convictions, i'll say I prayer for him and his family, but shed no Clinton(Ron Brown)crocodile tears for the loss of an admitted socialist. Too many others have died trying to prevent the disease of socialism from spreading here and around the world.

27 posted on 10/26/2002 5:59:33 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo
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To: BillCompton
Moynahan is the only other one that comes to mind. ... Zell Miller, Sam Nunn also come to mind. Thirty-five years ago the Democrat Party was filled with men like these - anti-Communist, pro-America Democrats. Unfurtunately, as the Left took over, these men were purged in favor of men like David Bonior, Ron Dellams, John Conyers, and assorted other Marxists. Not satisfied with only one Party, the Left is now very busy attempting to take over the Republicans as well.
28 posted on 10/26/2002 6:04:11 AM PDT by bimbo
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To: Nitro
initial approach or go-around?

WX (metar)at the time KEVM 251654Z AUTO 14003KT 5SM -SN OVC004 01/00 A3003 RMK AO2 2002/10/25 16:45

Airports IAP's

29 posted on 10/26/2002 7:13:58 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo
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To: JohnHuang2
Another wonderful 2 cents worth John!
I will almost miss Paul's feisty speeches! He would make my blood boil with his extreme views, but he like Dornan was never boring! Sadly, both of their voices are silenced in the Congress, one by questionable defeat, one by tragic death.
30 posted on 10/26/2002 7:19:16 AM PDT by ladyinred
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To: RckyRaCoCo
Wow, not being a pilot most of what you offered is very difficult to understand.

But I did notice Hibbing to the west... I totally dig Bob Dylan!!

Actually, if I had a week or two and some manuals I could make some sense of the NOTAM!!

31 posted on 10/26/2002 7:36:25 AM PDT by Nitro
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To: Nitro
The Republicans are saying all the right things at this time of tragedy, but now we have to look at the situation realistically. How can the Pubbies prevent the Dems from grabbing back this Minnesota Senate seat? And what are the Dem's next steps in trying to push Mondale forward?
32 posted on 10/26/2002 7:59:45 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: JohnHuang2
<< ..... [Minnesota Senator Paul Wellstone's] life and that of his wife, Sheila, and his daughter, Marcia.

The world will be a lonelier place without them.

My heart goes out to David and Mark, Wellstone's two sons, and all his family and friends. >>

Amen.

And God bless you, John, for being the Right kind of American Man -- to step up and say so.

Hugs'n .... Brian
33 posted on 10/26/2002 8:12:30 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: JohnHuang2
What a beautiful tribute! Thank you! I join in prayer for those who are suffering the loss of family and friends.
34 posted on 10/26/2002 8:14:07 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Nitro
The translation:

Reported at 16:54 zulu (UTC) on the 25th
Reporting Station - KEVM
Temperature - 1 degree centigrade (33.8 F)
Dewpoint - 0 degree centigrade (32.0 F)
Wind Direction - SE (140 degrees)
Wind Speed - 3 knots
Humidity - 93.0 %
Altimeter - 30.03 inches
Visibility - 5 sm
Ceiling - 400 ft
Current weather - light snow
Sky conditions - Overcast clouds at 400 feet

Hope this helps.
35 posted on 10/26/2002 8:19:57 AM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: Northern Yankee; ABG(anybody but Gore); JohnHuang2
<< ..... One woman, from the republican line, called in and said it was God's will that caused Wellstone's death, and that she thanked God that this happened .... >>

The DNC never takes holidays and respects nothing and no-one.

Isn't it amazing and apalling to witness the depths of mis and dis-information to which the RICO-racketeering gangster bastard "DemocRATS" will gladly plunge -- and the circumstances they are willing to exploit in so doing, eh?

"Republican line," indeed.

36 posted on 10/26/2002 8:22:38 AM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: M Kehoe; JohnHuang2
If Wellstone was an honest man, why did he so vociferously support the Kosovo War (a war authorized neither by the Congress nor by the UN)?
37 posted on 10/26/2002 8:36:38 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Ciexyz
Sadly, I think the sympathy vote will carry the day for the dims, just like Carnahan.

But, we have had three straight weeks of gains in the "market" and that takes the issue of the Economy out of the dims hands and focuses the question on terrorism and the Republicans are like Superman on the war on terror...

I think we will regain the Senate and increase in the House!!

38 posted on 10/26/2002 8:37:40 AM PDT by Nitro
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To: Ciexyz
Heard on the news this morn that the MN DFl'ers are meeting behind closed doors right now, what that means who knows. Norm MUST NOT just sit back and let them take that seat though. Hope he does a little campaigning still, since the Dems prob. will. It would be a shame for him to just give up after running a great campaign all year.
39 posted on 10/26/2002 8:39:26 AM PDT by gore_sux_2000
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To: BamaBlue
Actually no it doesn't help... except for Kevm nothing seems to jibe...

and as a surface squid even I know SE is 135 not 140!!

40 posted on 10/26/2002 8:45:42 AM PDT by Nitro
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To: Lion's Cub
I'm going to have to agree with Lions. The man was pro-abortion and pro wealth distribution.I'm not giving him any credit for that. I wish this horrific accident had not befallen him and his family but to say somehow that makes the things he has said alright won't cut it with me.
41 posted on 10/26/2002 8:45:50 AM PDT by linn37
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To: gore_sux_2000
Michael Savage made a great point on his show last night. The Wellstone story has allowed the media to turn their attention from the Black Muslim snipers. That, in addition to the probable increased chances of the Dems' holding the MN seat. I continue to suspect the DNC pulled a Carnahan on Wellstone.

One thing I heard on C-SPAN Radio yesterday is that Wellstone told his family and friends after he voted against the Iraq resolution that he would probably lose the election as a result, and that he was pleasantly surprised when he went up in the polls after that vote. I suspect that, by making that vote, Wellstone was defying orders from Daschle, McAuliffe, and the Clintons. They would have had an interest in making an example of somebody who had defied their orders, and who was unreliable for their plans precisely because he was too principled a leftist.

Do we know whether the friend's father whose funeral the Wellstones were flying to attend died a natural death?

42 posted on 10/26/2002 8:46:53 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: JohnHuang2
I got an email from someone claiming Wellstone was "Bushwacked" ...also the people at DU are foaming at the mouth.....Lot of nuts out there
43 posted on 10/26/2002 8:51:59 AM PDT by woofie
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To: aristeides
Much as I'd like to think it was just an "accident", I do have the same suspicions as you do. Way too many odd and eerie coincidences going on here, and similarities to other "accidents".

Don't know if the friends death was from natural causes, I haven't been able to find anything listing the cause of death.
44 posted on 10/26/2002 8:57:27 AM PDT by gore_sux_2000
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To: JohnHuang2
Well said. It strikes me there are few senators with his conviction on either side of the aisle. One need not agree with a person to recognize and respect their integrity.
45 posted on 10/26/2002 9:04:12 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks JH2, you are a classy man. It is lovely to see your posts again... I have been missing them. Hope your computer gets healed soon.
46 posted on 10/26/2002 9:04:52 AM PDT by Grammy
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To: Northern Yankee
...but you know; with the support that Wellstone gave for that vile and murderous partial-birth abortion, you wonder if once in a while if God who hears the agony of those dying little babies just says "enough".
47 posted on 10/26/2002 9:15:15 AM PDT by patriot_wes
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To: JohnHuang2
Yes JH2, Wellstone was a good (ultra) liberal and well liked. He was a principled ideologue and would argue passionately in support of his values and beliefs. But Wellstone understood this was politics and never turned it into a personal issue.

But let's not forget who Wellstone's political mentor was. That would be another ultra liberal. Edward "FatTeddy" Kennedy. I just had to throw that in.

48 posted on 10/26/2002 9:23:36 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: All; JohnHuang2
Times like these reminds us all how very fragile, how very precious, how very fleeting life truly is.

After my own experience Thursday morning while I was driving on the freeway, this statement really hits home.

I was driving in the left lane of the freeway and all of a sudden I saw a car coming at me going the wrong direction on the freeway. My first reaction was to get over in the other lane, but there was a car next to me. So I pulled left to avoid that vehicle then pulled right again to avoid the head on car. Eventually in my manuvering to avoid cars my car started to fish tail and I no longer had control. The car spun around and finally I hit the cement divider.

When I knew I no longer had control I closed my eyes and said "Lord it is in your hands." At that moment I no longer feared what was happening.

My husband was in the passenger seat and we both came out of it all in one piece.

My prayers are with the Wellstone family for the loss of their loved ones.

49 posted on 10/26/2002 9:33:07 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: JohnHuang2
Wasn't Wellstone one of the morons that backed up the Clintonista's bid to 'redefine' the child pornography laws?
50 posted on 10/26/2002 11:31:15 AM PDT by Darksheare
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