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SNIPER ESCAPE BID-FBI agents grab him as he flees
News of the World ^ | 10/27/02

Posted on 10/26/2002 5:25:07 PM PDT by Brian Mosely

THE 17-year-old Washington sniper made a dramatic freedom bid—by punching his way through the CEILING of an interview room.

John Lee Malvo seized his chance after being left alone by FBI interrogators.

He leapt on a table and quickly smashed the flimsy ceiling tiles with his fists—then began hauling himself up into a ventilation shaft.

Agents dashed into the room, grabbed his flailing legs and wrenched the struggling teenager back down.

Last night the FBI refused to comment on the embarrassing incident at the "secure" and secret federal centre in Baltimore, Maryland.

Malvo and fellow sniper John Muhammad, 41—who face the death penalty in seven different jurisdictions —are refusing to help enquiries into their reign of terror in the US capital.

Posed

One agent said: "Never mind co-operation. They're not even talking."

The pair—who killed ten and wounded three in a 21-day spree— could also be charged with an unsolved murder on America's west coast.

Keenya Cook, 21, was killed in February with a single head shot as she opened her front door in Tacoma, Washington State, where Muhammad and Malvo were living at the time.

The assassins were friends with her family—and even posed for the now infamous picture together on their sofa.

But ex-Army marksman Muhammad, who changed his name from Williams because he converted to Islam, fell out with the Cooks when they befriended his ex-wife.

Claims of warnings about the pair to police BEFORE the killings started were piling up last night.

The Rev Al Archer, who runs the Lighthouse Mission Centre in Bellingham where the pair once lived, said he suspected the Gulf War veteran was a terrorist after September 11.

He said Muhammad distributed pro-Islam brochures, made anti-American slurs and also threatened to kill cops. He added: "If he'd been stopped at that time, a lot of people would be alive who are now dead."

Mr Archer revealed that Muhammad, who was existing on handouts, started travelling extensively by air. Harjeep Singh, who knew the snipers at a YMCA gym, said he was alarmed at their vow to go on a gun-rampage, targetting cops and fuel tankers.

Police and an FBI agent interviewed Mr Singh but no action was taken.

There were also chilling new revelations last night about how Malvo and Muhammad mocked police by repeatedly slipping through dragnets.

Their 1990 blue Chevrolet Caprice— a killing machine with holes in the boot to fire through—was first noted by police on October 3, just 24 hours after the first killing. But it was lost in the system while the entire hunt centred on a white van.

Meanwhile, Muhammad was stopped or spoken to by officers TEN times for various traffic offences.

During a spot-check on October 8, he was parked and asleep at the wheel. But cops failed to look in the boot, where they would have found the Bushmaster XM15 rifle.

The most chilling escape was last Monday when two illegal immigrants in a white van were held in a swoop as they used a phone booth being staked out by cops.

Muhammad and Malvo had given the number of the booth to detectives in a phone call. And just yards away, they were lurking in their blue Chevy, watching every move in the fiasco.

The car was even caught in the background on news footage—and still the jigsaw did not piece together.

Finally, police realised the car they were looking for. But Chief Charles Moose refused to reveal the number plate. It was only when one of his team leaked it that the pair were found one-and-a-half hours later.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: dcsniper; domesticterrorism; keystonecops
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1 posted on 10/26/2002 5:25:07 PM PDT by Brian Mosely
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To: Brian Mosely
"...And just yards away, they were lurking in their blue Chevy, watching every move in the fiasco. The car was even caught in the background on news footage—and still the jigsaw did not piece together."

Chief Moose and the Caprice-ignoring keystone kops strike again

2 posted on 10/26/2002 5:28:26 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Brian Mosely
CNN actually reported this Malvo escape attempt about 8 hours ago, but didn't make a big deal out of it. Not sure why.
3 posted on 10/26/2002 5:31:02 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: spycatcher
This is starting to look very interesting.

I bet these guys had a lot of help.
4 posted on 10/26/2002 5:34:19 PM PDT by lavrenti
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To: spycatcher
CNN didn't make a big deal of it because it doesn't fit their enabling agenda to let him off easy.

He's only 17. He's had a hard life. Boo hoo hoo......

5 posted on 10/26/2002 5:34:53 PM PDT by Myrean
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To: Brian Mosely
Are the Snipers Part of the "Five Percent Nation[offshoot of Nation of Islam]"? ("The Black Man is God" Among Teachings)
6 posted on 10/26/2002 5:36:38 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: spycatcher
For heavans sake get 'em outta pinko MD and send them to 'bama.

LE in MD is just incompetant. Someone on Fox said that the leg irons should have been on.

GEesh! This guy nearly escaped into the ventalation system!

7 posted on 10/26/2002 5:37:02 PM PDT by fooman
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To: Brian Mosely
and in most other countries, he probably would have been shot dead trying to escape...
8 posted on 10/26/2002 5:37:20 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone
Just who was paying for all that airfare?
9 posted on 10/26/2002 5:40:39 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: rolling_stone
and in most other countries, he probably would have been shot dead trying to escape

I guess the FBI agents didn't show up in time for the morning briefing on the plan to save taxpayer dollars.

Pookie & Me

10 posted on 10/26/2002 5:42:47 PM PDT by Pookie Me
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To: Brian Mosely
But Chief Charles Moose refused to reveal the number plate.

That little beauty of police work got swept under the rug because of pure luck and a hungry press. Now he's a hero. The jerk.

11 posted on 10/26/2002 5:43:06 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Brian Mosely
Doesn't the FBI normally put dangerous criminals in secure holding cells?

Evidently not. Another sign of gross incompetence.
12 posted on 10/26/2002 5:43:27 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: RummyChick
We are of course.
13 posted on 10/26/2002 5:45:20 PM PDT by GailA
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To: Brian Mosely
Chief Charles Moose refused to reveal the number plate. It was only when one of his team leaked it that the pair were found one-and-a-half hours later.

It would seem someone woke up, smelled the coffee, and decided the guys in the Caprice were the perps, but that person wasn't Chief Moose. He was PC to the very end.

15 posted on 10/26/2002 5:46:47 PM PDT by twntaipan
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To: Brian Mosely
Finally, police realised the car they were looking for. But Chief Charles Moose refused to reveal the number plate. It was only when one of his team leaked it that the pair were found one-and-a-half hours later.

He sure has looked unhappy since they were caught.

16 posted on 10/26/2002 5:47:43 PM PDT by per loin
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To: Cicero
Doesn't the FBI normally put dangerous criminals in secure holding cells?

Perhaps he needs to attempt to escape again, so this whole sorry episode can be ended permanently, if you get my drift!

17 posted on 10/26/2002 5:47:58 PM PDT by toddst
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To: spycatcher
Oh Jesus. I can imagine them walking in the background as a reporter drones on, "...obviously he must be miles away by now."
18 posted on 10/26/2002 5:48:22 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: toddst
well then, why didn't they pop 'em right then and there when they had the chance?
19 posted on 10/26/2002 5:49:51 PM PDT by fooman
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To: fooman
We still have Yellow Mama down here raring to go.
20 posted on 10/26/2002 5:50:03 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Pookie Me
he needs to be tortured not shot
21 posted on 10/26/2002 5:50:35 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: twntaipan
It would seem someone woke up, smelled the coffee, and decided the guys in the Caprice were the perps,

civilian truck driver with a cell phone!

and he blocked the rest area exit with his truck while the keystone kops were enroute. And Moose was probably still steaming about the leaked plate number.

22 posted on 10/26/2002 5:55:29 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: spycatcher
"Chief Moose and the Caprice-ignoring keystone kops strike again" - yeah, we all noticed how YOU had told everybody that the perps were two african-americans driving a chevy caprice right after the first kill. Too bad nobody listened to you and your tooth-fillings, tin-hat. You just always seem to know AFTER the fact how everybody should have done everything perfectly, if only you were running the show - AMAZING!


23 posted on 10/26/2002 5:55:35 PM PDT by leilani
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To: spycatcher
Saw this on the CNN site last nite and my husband said he heard about it on the radio this morning. He also heard that the 'boy' is considered to be at least 19 yrs old. Since he gradated elementary school in 1996 he is at least 19.....and it would also seem he had not much education since 8th. grade.
24 posted on 10/26/2002 5:57:17 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: leilani
What's amazing is that Moooos-eau knew it was two black men over 24 hrs. before that information was released and he allowed everyone to continue looking for a white man in a white van.
25 posted on 10/26/2002 6:00:11 PM PDT by OldFriend
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To: fooman
well then, why didn't they pop 'em right then and there when they had the chance?

You tell me! So much for traditional enforcement when the people involved are more afraid of sanctions that could hamper their "career" as opposed to doing what's right - shoot the SOB!

26 posted on 10/26/2002 6:03:47 PM PDT by toddst
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To: Brian Mosely
Finally, police realised the car they were looking for. But Chief Charles Moose refused to reveal the number plate. It was only when one of his team leaked it that the pair were found one-and-a-half hours later.

I wonder how long they had the plate number before the leak, and the reason for witholding it.

27 posted on 10/26/2002 6:04:34 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: secretagent
Maybe the moosie apologists can answer that.
28 posted on 10/26/2002 6:07:18 PM PDT by fooman
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To: OldFriend
The hindsight to all this reveals that Chief Moose decided to fight two battles. The sniper and the press. Thus loosing civilian assistance until the leaked plate number was aired and spotted.

Does that put Chief Moose as the bad guy or the press who obviously scared him into silence for one reason or another?
29 posted on 10/26/2002 6:07:37 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: leilani
yeah, we all noticed how YOU had told everybody that the perps were two african-americans driving a chevy caprice right after the first kill. Too bad nobody listened to you and your tooth-fillings, tin-hat. You just always seem to know AFTER the fact how everybody should have done everything perfectly, if only you were running the show - AMAZING!

Yes it was the first day of killings on Oct 3rd that the Caprice was also known be the single other highly suspicious vehicle of serious consideration, but Moose chose to only emphasize white trucks and vans despite D.C. Chief Ramsey's reservations. The cops also knew for a near certainty in early October from the letter language that the sniper was a minority but Moose didn't want to "paint some group." Wake up and smell the incompetence. Word is bond, yo.

30 posted on 10/26/2002 6:14:45 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: OldFriend
What's amazing is that Moooos-eau knew it was two black men over 24 hrs. before that information was released and he allowed everyone to continue looking for a white man in a white van.

The task force detectives knew from the language used in the letters that these guys were black. See: Sniper Letter Linked to [Blacks = G-d] Movement Chief Moose, being black, was in serious denial.

31 posted on 10/26/2002 6:18:57 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: JoeSixPack1
Well, yes, but what I meant was that someone on Moose's team leaked the plate number.
32 posted on 10/26/2002 6:21:45 PM PDT by twntaipan
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To: spycatcher
Story is that Moose was fired from his Oregon position for being a racist..........and was hired in Maryland at the behest of Janet Reno.
33 posted on 10/26/2002 6:24:22 PM PDT by OldFriend
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During a spot-check on October 8, he was parked and asleep at the wheel. But cops failed to look in the boot, where they would have found the Bushmaster XM15 rifle.

The cops couldn't have checked the boot. There was no probable cause. Of course they could have searched the car any of the ten times but with the charge of Racial profiling or unlawful search hanging over their heads like a big iron fist I can see why they didn't. PC is going to be the death of this country if it isn't stopped..

34 posted on 10/26/2002 6:25:44 PM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: Brian Mosely
Finally, police realised the car they were looking for. But Chief Charles Moose refused to reveal the number plate. It was only when one of his team leaked it that the pair were found one-and-a-half hours later."

Would this be called infirmative action? God bless the brave soul that released the plate number.

35 posted on 10/26/2002 6:26:47 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: twntaipan
Then you're eluding to a usurping of Chief Moose? :-)
36 posted on 10/26/2002 6:31:14 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: fooman
I believe were lucky nobody else died with Moose at the controls.As more details surface the more incompetent he looks.Once the public were allowed details despite Moose,the suspects were arrested.The best thing about the kid being young is that he can do 50-60years in jail.
37 posted on 10/26/2002 6:32:21 PM PDT by John,Staten Island
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To: Brian Mosely
Looks like the Moose has some explaining to do. The Wash Post had a front page article today about the 10 times these guys were stopped and license plates run through the system. BTW, let me ask a dumb question....was is a boot (in the car)?
38 posted on 10/26/2002 6:35:58 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: John,Staten Island
I live on the upper east side...
39 posted on 10/26/2002 6:40:52 PM PDT by fooman
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To: TheLion
A "boot" is British for the trunk.
40 posted on 10/26/2002 6:44:34 PM PDT by ikka
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To: ikka
Thanks for clearing that up!
41 posted on 10/26/2002 6:46:12 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: Brian Mosely
But Chief Charles Moose refused to reveal the number plate. It was only when one of his team leaked it that the pair were found one-and-a-half hours later.

I heard one channel say they got the BOLO off their poelice scanners.

Does anyone know if either of the perps were ever Catholic? What is the predominant religion in Jamaica? I'm still leaning toward Malvo as the shooter...even in Ala. I think the cop there would have shot Muhammad if he had a hand gun in the foot pursuit. Malvo was across the ditch from the shooting and could have used a long gun from there. (man I have to get a life)

42 posted on 10/26/2002 6:55:44 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Brian Mosely; Alamo-Girl
Why wasn't this perp handcuffed? Kind of tough to climb on a table and haul yourself up through the ceiling with your hands cuffed behind your back. Hopefully they put a chain on this perp, just to make sure he doesn't get too far next time he tries something like this.
43 posted on 10/26/2002 6:57:33 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: JoeSixPack1
In all fairness to Chief Moose, I believe that the decision to withhold the plate number was justified. We were lucky that the truck driver was where he was, when he was. Had these two morons been aware that their plate number was leaked, they would have certainly ditched the car and gotten another with a different plate. That would have set the investigation back for God knows how long.

Moose probably thought this also and reasoned that he had a better chance of cathing these two thugs if they didn't know that their plate number was known to the police.

I would have withheld the plate number also, and I'll tell you another thing; if this leak had resulted in the sniper's getting away again to commit more murders, the leaker would be on the griddle right now. He was lucky that things turned out the way they did.

44 posted on 10/26/2002 7:11:07 PM PDT by yooper
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To: plain talk
We still have Yellow Mama down here raring to go.

Alas, the Yellow Mama has been moved to the attic, according to the warden. The last person to fry in Alabama was Lynda Lyon Block, this past May. From now on, they're gonna get put to sleep, like dogs.

45 posted on 10/26/2002 7:34:20 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: TheLion
British English for the "trunk".
46 posted on 10/26/2002 7:40:40 PM PDT by katana
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To: yooper
Your post is well reasoned and I agree.

Chief Moose's job was to make that decision.

Hindsight on this one is going to be debated for years.
47 posted on 10/26/2002 7:42:04 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Cicero
Doesn't the FBI normally put dangerous criminals in secure holding cells?

Not when they're being questioned. That's usually done in a small room with a table and a couple of chairs, usually with one way glass, and if they have it, a videocamera hidden away somewhere.

No surprise he tried to escape. I've heard of guys going out windows, making a dash for the door--I think Hank Carr down in Tampa hid a handcuff key on him, unlocked his handcuffs & managed to get a gun away from one of the cops. He killed two detectives and another cop during the police chase & when they had him cornered, committed suicide. When we had our old jail and they'd have to walk the prisoners from the jail to the courthouse outside & after a few prisoners boogied, they started making them wear jail slippers (hospital slippers) & not shoes because the deputies were getting sick of chasing prisoners around the courthouse square. At the maximum security prison, two recent escape attempts are memorable: one where two guys spent an indordinate amount of time braiding dental floss into a rope and another where they used a long industrial vac hose. In the first one, one guy lost his grip & broke his arm & his screams drew the guards; in the second, they lowered the vacuum cleaner hose right past a window in the administrative offices & the guards were waiting for them when they landed.

The point is that when someone is desparate--and the kid may well have been told what he was facing--that person will do anything to get away.

48 posted on 10/26/2002 7:43:42 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: cynwoody
Oddly enough, Linda Lyons Block's husband is the next person on the execution list.
49 posted on 10/26/2002 7:44:36 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: toddst
More than likely he was being interviewed, and the interrogator left the room to let him stew for a while. I'm sure he was under observation the whole time. Much ado about nothing IMHO.
50 posted on 10/26/2002 7:48:14 PM PDT by kms61
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