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EXCLUSIVE: MONDALE DROPS 7 POINTS AS POST-WELLSTONE MEMORIAL BACKLASH DEVELOPS
World Magazine ^ | 11/01/81 | By Joel C. Rosenberg, WORLD magazine contributor

Posted on 11/01/2002 2:45:06 PM PST by sonrise57

* * * * WASHINGTON UPDATE * * * *

EXCLUSIVE: MONDALE DROPS 7 POINTS AS POST-WELLSTONE MEMORIAL BACKLASH DEVELOPS


Plus: Exclusive internal GOP tracking poll numbers from key Senate and House races

By Joel C. Rosenberg, WORLD magazine contributor (www.worldmag.com) (WASHINGTON, 10/31/02) -- Just got off the phones with several top GOP Senate and House strategists. Fascinating developments.

Exclusive new poll numbers will soon be posted at www.worldmag.com and www.JewishWorldReview.com.

SENATE SNAPSHOT: MINNESOTA -- COLEMAN SURGES 7 POINTS AS MONDALE FACES INDEPENDENT BACKLASH

A political backlash against Walter Mondale is developing after Democrats turned the memorial service for Sen. Paul Wellstone into a campaign rally, WORLD magazine has learned.

Internal GOP tracking polls over the past week show Republican Norm Coleman gaining 7 points since Tuesday night and now in a statistical dead heat with Mondale, 43% to 42%

The first GOP poll taken last weekend when Mondale's name was first floated to replace Wellstone put the 74-year old Democrat ahead of Coleman by 3 points, highly-placed GOP sources say.

By the Tuesday before the memorial service, internal GOP polls show Mondale had climbed to a 7 point lead, and Republicans were deeply concerned they couldn't overcome the "Mondale Mystique." An independent, public poll showed Mondale up 8.

"Everything changed Tuesday night," said a top Republican operative. "The Democrats' political rally really turned off independent voters. It alientated [Minnesota Governor Jesse] Ventura. And we saw Coleman's numbers rise almost immediately, and intensity for Coleman has significantly increased."

What happened?

"Basically, we're back where we were when Wellstone was alive," the GOP source said. "Independent, undecided voters really didn't like Wellstone. Now they're looking cautiously at the guy who's filling in for the guy they didn't like."

President Bush will now campaign in Minnesota with Coleman on Sunday.

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SENATE SNAPSHOT: ARKANSAS

New internal GOP tracking polls:
* Republican Sen. Tim Hutchinson -- 44%
* Democrat Mark Pryor -- 44%
* Republicans operative most worried about this race

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SENATE SNAPSHOT: GEORGIA

New internal GOP tracking polls:
* Democrat Sen. Max Cleland -- 44%
* GOP challenger Saxby Chambliss -- 41%
* Perhaps best shot at a GOP pickup
* President Bush campaigns for Chambliss on Saturday

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SENATE SNAPSHOT: NEW HAMPSHIRE

New internal GOP tracking polls:

* Rep. John Sununu -- 44%
* Gov. Jeanne Shaheen -- 42%
* But three independent polls show Shaheen ahead by 3 to 4 points.
* Sources say AFL-CIO sending in 500 employees to help Democrats get out the vote

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SENATE SNAPSHOT: COLORADO

* GOP Sen. Wayne Allard -- 45%
* Democrat Tom Strickland -- 41%
* GOP operatives say strong top of ticket -- Republican Gov. Bill Owens -- helping boost Republican turnout, helping Allard over the top

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SENATE SNAPSHOT: LOUISINA

New internal GOP tracking polls:
* Democrat Sen. Mary Landrieu -- 44%
* If she doesn't get more than 50%, she'll face a run-off.

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HOUSE SNAPSHOT: IOWA

* Desperate Iowa GOP House incumbents -- and Senate candidate Greg Ganske -- need the "Bush Bounce," so the White House political operation sending the President to Cedar Rapids on Monday.

* The redistricted and thus newly embattled GOP Rep. Jim Leach is now in the 1st Congressional District. He appears to be scratching and clawing his way to a lead, but House operatives remain worried. New internal GOP polling shows Leach ahead of Democrat challenger John Norris 52% to 40%.

* GOP Rep. Jim Nussle in the 2nd Congressional district is also in a brutal battle against TK. But Nussle now seem to be closing the sale with voters. He's up 54% to 46%.

* GOP Rep. Tom Latham is now up 8 points, but still below 50%. New polling shows the race at 48% to 40%. Speaker Dennis Hastert is going in to stump for Latham on Sunday.

* Christian conservative GOP state representative Steve King is strong to pick up a newly created Congressional seat in southeastern Iowa.

* Democrat incumbent Rep. Boswell is suddenly facing an incredibly strong GOP challenge from Stan Thompson. Boswell had been fine for months, but is dropping steady and is now under 50% -- 48% to 42%.

* Voter fraud in Iowa becoming major issue. Some districts have seen requests for 20,000 to 40,000 absentee ballots, almost none of which are coming from registered Republicans. "Abnormally high," says one GOP operative. "We're watching it real closely. These could be serious fraud cases developing."

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HOUSE SNAPSHOT: GEORGIA

* Republican strategists fear a net loss of House seats in Georgia of one to four seats due to aggressive redistricting by Democrat governor and legislature.

* But...the newly created 12th Congressional district could be a pickup for the GOP. Republican Max Burns has pulled slightly ahead of Democrat Champ Walker, 52% to 48%.

* Also...in the redrawn 11th Congressional district, Republican state senator Phil Gingry is finally gaining steam. Latest poll puts him down 3 points -- 43% to 46%. Speaker Hastert heads there to campaign with Gingry today.

HOUSE SNAPSHOT: KANSAS

* GOP operatives believe they now have a shot at defeating incumbent Democrat Rep. Dennis Moore Kansas's 3rd Congressional District. Republican Adam Taff, a former Naval aviator -- now a pilot for United Airlines -- is surging in the past two weeks and Washington is sending extra resources.

Moore -- 47%
Taff -- 44%


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Some good news here, but its going to be a squeaker----
VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!
1 posted on 11/01/2002 2:45:06 PM PST by sonrise57
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To: sonrise57
As the dems would say:
"Paul would have wanted it that way"
2 posted on 11/01/2002 2:47:00 PM PST by Warren
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To: sonrise57
Whoa . . . RATS still have four days to replace Mondale.
3 posted on 11/01/2002 2:49:22 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: BlackRazor; Coop; Common Tator; Congressman Billybob; Dales
Interesting internal tracking poll ping...
4 posted on 11/01/2002 2:50:39 PM PST by eureka!
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To: sonrise57
bump
5 posted on 11/01/2002 2:51:39 PM PST by finnman69
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To: sonrise57
Regarding that photo: it's a botox tech's dream.
6 posted on 11/01/2002 2:52:07 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: LibWhacker
Whoa . . . RATS still have four days to replace Mondale.

Yep, he needs to stay out of small aircraft.

/john

7 posted on 11/01/2002 2:52:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper
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To: Paul Atreides
Nah, maybe the Devil, though. I see at least three of his favorite fans.
9 posted on 11/01/2002 2:54:47 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: sonrise57
Vote !
10 posted on 11/01/2002 2:55:50 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: eureka!
I am confused... the GOP internal tracking poll the night before the "memorial" showed Mondale up by 2... so now Mondale is up by 1 in this same tracking poll... and this is supposed to prove a massive backlash?
11 posted on 11/01/2002 2:56:20 PM PST by ambrose
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To: eureka!
I am actually not really that enthralled with the Minnesota race. One of two things will happen- Mondale will win if and only if the Minnesota voters were going to elect a D no matter who it was. If there is any chance at all that Minnesota would elect a R, Coleman will win.

The Memorial Service did its part.

Mondale isn't showing up to the debate tonight, and the TV stations are going to air it with literally an empty seat there.

Mondale is showing an amazing lack of vigor and excitement on the stump; voters can generally tell when someone doesn't really want it and they vote accordingly. Mondale may actually want it but be incapable of being energetic for a four day sprint.

Basically, I think Coleman has this race won. Unless it was absolutely impossible to win.

12 posted on 11/01/2002 3:00:52 PM PST by Dales
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To: Mr. Silverback
I disagree. Had Tom Harkin died instead, Wellstone would have been doing what Harkin did.

The memorial service captured his heart and soul perfectly.

And for that, we as conservatives should feel blessed. The myth making and the romanticizing of Wellstone was shattered by the shrill shrieking of his strangly unmournful son's populist rallying cry.

This is who they are, this is who Wellstone was, and Minnesota is realizing that there is something wrong there.

13 posted on 11/01/2002 3:03:32 PM PST by Dales
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To: ambrose; Dales
ambrose-read again. 7 point Mondale lead gone after the rally, er, memorial.

Dales- you're probably right about MN. The absentee fiasco may do the job. Here's hoping...

14 posted on 11/01/2002 3:05:50 PM PST by eureka!
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To: sonrise57
Great post - thank you and bttt
15 posted on 11/01/2002 3:05:55 PM PST by lodwick
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To: sonrise57
If only I could be like some Dims and vote more than once.
16 posted on 11/01/2002 3:06:36 PM PST by tiki
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To: sonrise57
Does X-42 have a shiner? Must've forgot to duck another ashtray.
17 posted on 11/01/2002 3:07:22 PM PST by Ken H
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To: sonrise57
Its the Clinton's midas' touch. Everything turns to sh*t.

The fun part is the democrats LOVE the guy!

18 posted on 11/01/2002 3:08:49 PM PST by skeeter
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To: sonrise57
The party faithful love Clinton, but most democrats are embarrassed by him. Watching him cheer and yuck it up at a memorial service was distasteful to many. To say the least.
19 posted on 11/01/2002 3:09:30 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: sonrise57

"It's been a disquieting week in Lake Woebegon..."

Regards, Ivan
20 posted on 11/01/2002 3:09:45 PM PST by MadIvan
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To: eureka!
the rally, er, memorial.

I think the term FUNERALLY that someone posted in another thread earlier seems appropriate.

21 posted on 11/01/2002 3:11:16 PM PST by DrewsDad
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To: sonrise57

22 posted on 11/01/2002 3:13:52 PM PST by NewsFlash
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To: JRandomFreeper
"Yep, he needs to stay out of small aircraft."

In his condition he should stay out of the bathtub.
23 posted on 11/01/2002 3:19:05 PM PST by billhilly
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To: sonrise57
Here's my call: The Wellstone memori-rally will indeed energize the Wellstone base. The problem for the RATS is that the hardcore Wellstone base isn't all that Democratic: They're greens.. Wellstone didn't really think like a RAT and certainly had too much integrity to be part of the RAT inner circle; in beliefs and deeds, he was more of a Green than anything else. He just ran as a Democrat because he know that no Green is ever going to get elected.

Well, now he's gone, and say what you will about Mondale, he's no ultra-left Green. Which means the big time Wellstone supporters are going to vote for whoever the Green candidate is, most of the independents are going to vote for Coleman because of their disgust with the DNC/DFL's actions, and a good chunk of the Democratic voters are either going to vote for Coleman or just not vote at all because they're embarrassed, humiliated and disgusted over what their party has become.

Result: Coleman win.

24 posted on 11/01/2002 3:21:14 PM PST by Timesink
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To: DrewsDad
'I think the term FUNERALLY that someone posted in another thread earlier seems appropriate'

Cute. I also liked the one: "Rats, putting the 'fun' back in funeral!"

25 posted on 11/01/2002 3:21:28 PM PST by eureka!
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To: sonrise57
Bwa ha ha ha. Thank you, Bill and Hill.
26 posted on 11/01/2002 3:22:27 PM PST by mewzilla
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To: ambrose
I am confused

Not only that you just proved you can't read.

Mondale was up by on saturday. But by the night of the memorial service he had risen to an 8 point lead.

The story says that the memorial he fell by 7 points to give Mondale a one point lead.

27 posted on 11/01/2002 3:23:29 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Dales
And for that, we as conservatives should feel blessed. The myth making and the romanticizing of Wellstone was shattered by the shrill shrieking of his strangly unmournful son's populist rallying cry.

This is who they are, this is who Wellstone was, and Minnesota is realizing that there is something wrong there.

I agree, that was literally an ol' fashoned church revival, and Liberalism is the religion! And, no matter what, for any reason or for all the money in the world, and what Demorcrats do not understand, REPUBLICANS COULD NEVER, NEVER HAVE DONE WHAT THEY DID AT THAT MEMORIAL...WE SIMPLY ARE NOT CAPABLE OF IT!

28 posted on 11/01/2002 3:26:46 PM PST by bigjoesaddle
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To: sonrise57
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving group of folks.

Go Norm!
29 posted on 11/01/2002 3:31:31 PM PST by Slainte
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To: LibWhacker
Whoa . . . RATS still have four days to replace Mondale. - Classic!
30 posted on 11/01/2002 3:31:55 PM PST by Free_at_last_-2001
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To: sonrise57
Voter fraud in Iowa becoming major issue. Some districts have seen requests for 20,000 to 40,000 absentee ballots, almost none of which are coming from registered Republicans. "Abnormally high," says one GOP operative. "We're watching it real closely. These could be serious fraud cases developing."

I'm an Iowa guy, so what type of fraud are we talking about, do these people not exist? Are they going to double vote; absantee AND at the polls? What exactly are we worried about? Open discussion for all FReepers PLEASE.

31 posted on 11/01/2002 3:36:35 PM PST by bigjoesaddle
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To: MadIvan
LOL LOL LOL LOL

Ivan that photo and caption were outstanding.
32 posted on 11/01/2002 3:46:00 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: bigjoesaddle
Say Big Joe,

I have been listening to WHO today and the Iowa GOP has just been pounding Norris with ads. As you no doubt know, Norris was Jesse Jackson's Iowa campaign manager. The airplay has been thick all day. Latham is safe.
33 posted on 11/01/2002 3:48:19 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Dales
A very well thought out analysis. I'm in MN and agree Coleman should win this. If he doesn't, nothing much more could be done to help him that hasn't already been done by the Dem's. If he doesn't take the Senate seat now then it was impossible to begin with, IMHO.
(Maybe I'm just rationalizing so I'm not totally devastated if he loses on Tues)
34 posted on 11/01/2002 3:51:45 PM PST by enough
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To: Ken H
Does X-42 have a shiner?

His nose certainly looks shinier.

35 posted on 11/01/2002 3:54:22 PM PST by syriacus
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To: sonrise57
That photo!! I just missed hurling on my keyboard. And I just asked my ophthalmologist to meet me at the ER.... 8~)
36 posted on 11/01/2002 3:56:12 PM PST by tracer
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To: Dales
Where the heck have you been for the past few months? I put on APB out for you without any luck.
37 posted on 11/01/2002 3:58:40 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: sonrise57
Voter fraud in Iowa becoming major issue. Some districts have seen requests for 20,000 to 40,000 absentee ballots, almost none of which are coming from registered Republicans. "Abnormally high," says one GOP operative. "We're watching it real closely. These could be serious fraud cases developing."

I don't like the sound of that at all.

38 posted on 11/01/2002 3:59:25 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: MadIvan
LOL!! I presented on another thread Keillor's name for Ventura's temporary Wellstone replacement.....
39 posted on 11/01/2002 4:00:40 PM PST by tracer
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To: Common Tator
Not only that you just proved you can't read. Mondale was up by on saturday. But by the night of the memorial service he had risen to an 8 point lead. The story says that the memorial he fell by 7 points to give Mondale a one point lead.

Thank you, but I can read quite well. I am still confused: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/778059/posts

This has Mondale up by 2 as of Sunday, not the three mentioned in the article. Moreover, the alleged internals which had Mondale surging on the night before the service were never released.

I support Coleman and have donated money to his campaign, but I am not so supportive that I will blindly accept leaked poll numbers at face value.

40 posted on 11/01/2002 4:06:51 PM PST by ambrose
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To: sonrise57
I voted early this year and so glad I did. My pet, illogical theory is that there are ten people out there pretty much like myself. If I don't vote, then it's very likely they won't either. But if I DO vote, those ten will, too, and probably vote the same way I do. (Cuz we think alike, too. Get it?)

Illogical, I know, but it's one of the strongest self-motivators I've been able to develop.

So, if you vote, ten people will get up, somewhere, and VOTE WITH YOU!
41 posted on 11/01/2002 4:17:14 PM PST by BradyLS
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
The airplay has been thick all day. Latham is safe.

Where RATs are involved, no candidate is safe! I don't care if the lead is in the double-digits. You have to fight like you're 3 points behind at all times to beat these guys.

42 posted on 11/01/2002 4:25:04 PM PST by BradyLS
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To: All
And this just in - Indiana 7th District in play

(snip)

With four days left, Julia Carson, the democratic incumbent, is no longer riding comfortably in the driver's seat. According to a new Eyewitness News - Indianapolis Star poll, Carson leads McVey by one percentage point. Carson has 43%, McVey with 42% and Libertarian Andrew Horning holds five percent.

Forty-six percent of likely voters in our poll have a favorable opinion of Carson, 38% unfavorable.

As for McVey, 38% have a favorable opinion of him with 18% unfavorable.

Carson, who did a radio interview Friday, is still upset about negative ads in the campaign. It's the reason she walked out of last Wednesday's debate.

43 posted on 11/01/2002 4:32:21 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: sonrise57
Some good news here, but its going to be a squeaker---- VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE!VOTE

You should check this author out. He could be a relative of Colman. Colman has first cousins by the same name as the author of this peace.

44 posted on 11/01/2002 4:52:02 PM PST by CaliforniaOkie
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To: sonrise57
This would be more interesting if they could at least get the candidates' names and districts right:

HOUSE SNAPSHOT: IOWA

* Desperate Iowa GOP House incumbents -- and Senate candidate Greg Ganske -- need the "Bush Bounce," so the White House political operation sending the President to Cedar Rapids on Monday.

* The redistricted and thus newly embattled GOP Rep. Jim Leach is now in the 1st Congressional District. He appears to be scratching and clawing his way to a lead, but House operatives remain worried. New internal GOP polling shows Leach ahead of Democrat challenger John Norris 52% to 40%.

Actually, Leach is now in the 2nd district, and his challenger is named Julie Thomas.

* GOP Rep. Jim Nussle in the 2nd Congressional district is also in a brutal battle against TK. But Nussle now seem to be closing the sale with voters. He's up 54% to 46%.

Nussle is in the 1st District.

* Christian conservative GOP state representative Steve King is strong to pick up a newly created Congressional seat in southeastern Iowa.

King is running in western Iowa.

45 posted on 11/01/2002 5:17:38 PM PST by Brandon
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To: sonrise57
I see dead people!
46 posted on 11/01/2002 5:52:14 PM PST by Radix
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To: bigjoesaddle
I recommend using DNA technology to test each absentee ballot. Match each absentee ballot to an actual voter, kind of like matching luggage to each passenger. If there's no match, where's the trash?

That's why the dems always say "Let every vote count." They don't care about the voter one wit but, they care a whole lot about stuffing the ballot box. Let every vote count - including fake ballots. (That's the true last half of that sentence.)

47 posted on 11/01/2002 6:28:29 PM PST by floriduh voter
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To: sonrise57
I know that turnout will be the key. Rats are better at getting out the vote. They bus them in from old folks homes, the skid row areas etc. They pay for votes. We seriously have to vote in huge numbers to overcome the fraud. Encourage every conservative you know to vote!
48 posted on 11/01/2002 6:34:35 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: ambrose
Moreover, the alleged internals which had Mondale surging on the night before the service were never released.

When internal polls show candidates dramatically losing ground they typically don't release them, which only makes sense.

49 posted on 11/01/2002 6:58:06 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: sonrise57
The democraps must be held accountable for that despicable display of partisanship. How rude! I like the way Gov. Ventura handled it. Gave 'em hell, and rightly so. I was shocked! Glad they didn't get away with it. It got so bad, I shut off the TV. Made me sick. Did Trent Lott ever make a statement? Go, GOP!!! For victory & freedom!!!
50 posted on 11/01/2002 8:24:02 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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