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(Vanity)Spontaneous Freep of Leftists in the Peoples Republic of the Upper West Side draws crowd!
first hand account | 11/2/02 | me

Posted on 11/02/2002 11:12:07 AM PST by finnman69

I live on the Upper West Side of Manhattan in NYC. For those who are not familiar this is ground zero for leftists and hard core socialist style Rats.

Today I went up to the Fairway Market on Broadway and 74th Street to do some shopping. The store is very popular due to its fresh food, great selection, and gourmet items. The store spans 2/3 of the block so it has significant sidewalk traffic and draws great crowds like it did today. The sidewalks in front of the store often have tables set up out front usually soliciting money for animal shelters. This time of year however you see political displays, and they are not conservative or Republican.

Witholding my pride I walked past a prominent Carl McCall(Rat candidate for governor) table with posters , literature and three people manning it. All the staffers were white men and in their 50-s to 60's. To be complete in description, I am 6'1 blonde/scandinavian looking in my early 30's. Next to the McCall Rats was another Democrat with a big poster that said "No War in Iraq" and "protect rent control" on it. Rent control is big with these leftists as they pay $300 a month rents on apartments that would rent for $3000 a month at market rates.

The Wellstone FuneRally fired me up the other night so upon entering the store I immediately starting thinking about the comments I would use to disparage and demoralize these nitwits. The first idea to come to mind was asking how they could support the NY State Democratic party (Hillary & Chuckie voted yes on war)when they had a big No war on Iraq sign.

Shopping was hectic and by the time I left the store I was not in the mood to Freep them. In addition my son was asleep in his stroller, so I figured why bother him. Passing the McCall table I saw more of these bearded 50ish white men with glasses(they all look the same don't they), I was blocked by the busy street traffic from getting right up to them so I decided to walk on, a little down that I let the opportunity go unchallenged.

But then the Freep happened.

At the corner was another 50ish white man with a beard and glasses wearing a Green party button chanting "No War" loudly over and over.

I had had it.

I went right next to the Green and chanted "NUKE IRAQ!" several times. The look of suprise in the face of the greenie was priceless. Judging by his speaking style and demeanor I would say he has engaged in a lot of heavy drug use. First he yelled back "oh yeah nuke Iraq, nuke Iraq". Then he called me a "typical chickenhawk". By then I would say at least 10-15 people had stopped their shopping to stare and watch.

Then something amazing happened.

Another man, intelligent looking, white in his late 50's, looked a little Waspy wearing a baseball hat and barn jacket came right up to the Green and starting tearing into him. "Yes we should nuke Iraq! My son was killed on 9/11, it's because of assh*les like you that he is dead". Now there were more people watching, maybe 20-30, several smiling at the Green get belittled. The Green said to the man " m very sorry about your son", but the man who lost his son continued to call him an assh*le and say "I am so sick of people like you". At that point I added "because of people like you 3000 people died on 9/11".

At this point we both started to walk away down the street together but just before I left, there was a McCall supporter wearing a McCall button watching. As I left I turned to him and said "And McCall is going down by 20 pts!" The McCall white male 50ish supporter was stunned and said nothing.

The man who lost his son laughed when I made the Mccall dig. I wish I could have found a way to tell him about Freerepublic at the time that was appropriate. As we walked away the man continued to tell me how sick of antiwar leftists he was. I told him I agreed and that I felt sorry for the loss of his son.

This all happened an hour ago.


TOPICS: US: New York; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 911; freep; greenparty; iraq
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This made me feel good. It also made me think, why cant we get a Pro-War/Republican table set up on the street.
1 posted on 11/02/2002 11:12:07 AM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
Excellent!
2 posted on 11/02/2002 11:14:36 AM PST by The Great Satan
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To: finnman69
why cant we get a Pro-War/Republican table set up on the street.

As the old saying goes "If it is up to be, it is up to me"

Do it.

Congrats on stopping them in their tracks!

Next time you go shopping, bring a camera...we'd love to see pics of this type of thing.

3 posted on 11/02/2002 11:15:21 AM PST by NorCoGOP
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To: finnman69
BRAVO!!

From the East Side. :)

4 posted on 11/02/2002 11:17:44 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: finnman69
Good job!

I like Fairway when I'm in Manhatten, which isn't too often.
5 posted on 11/02/2002 11:18:10 AM PST by Sam Cree
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To: finnman69
great job - sad about the man though.
6 posted on 11/02/2002 11:18:14 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: finnman69
Bravo! And, Thank You.
7 posted on 11/02/2002 11:18:52 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: finnman69
Wow. Great Freep.
8 posted on 11/02/2002 11:19:51 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: finnman69
A self-organizing freep! You did a good thing.
9 posted on 11/02/2002 11:20:26 AM PST by Marylander
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To: finnman69
This illustrates what lighting one little candle can do. Would that we would all have the courage to go it alone as you did. There's no telling how many hearts you may have changed today. Thank you.
11 posted on 11/02/2002 11:21:22 AM PST by basil
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To: finnman69
Good for you Vikingman.
12 posted on 11/02/2002 11:22:18 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: finnman69
Way to go!
13 posted on 11/02/2002 11:26:00 AM PST by Dog
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To: finnman69
I just fininshed doing a literature drop for the Republican party in my neighborhood. I bumped into a guy who said, "you can keep that, we are democrats." I looked at him with a very sad look on my face and said, "I am really sorry to hear that." Normally, I would just say nothing and smile.
14 posted on 11/02/2002 11:26:34 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: vbmoneyspender
Yes, I could see the anger in this poor father was genuine but I think I made him feel ebtter in the end witha smile when I made the McCall down by 20 pts. He definitely appreciated me going after the Green nut.
15 posted on 11/02/2002 11:26:46 AM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
Thanks. This kind of reporting was one of the most seductive things about FreeRepublic when I first lurked here.

I don't happen to agree with you on Iraq--at all. But I still think it was a great report and revealed far more of the "facts on the ground" than anything we could glean from the corporate media.

16 posted on 11/02/2002 11:28:01 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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... All the staffers were white men and in their 50-s to 60's. ...

Interesting observation.

All of the "staffers" presiding over the decline and fall of the Catholic Church in America are also white men in their 50-s to 60's.

In fact, most of the "staffers" presiding over the decline and fall of Western Civilization are white men in their 50-s to 60's.

Reading and weeping.

But, as I said---great report...

17 posted on 11/02/2002 11:33:02 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Actually I don't believe we should nuke Iraq, unless they do it first, but I do believe we need to pre-empt in Iraq before he grows any stronger and threatens us. Yelling NUKE IRAQ seemd to be the last thing the Green wanted to hear. As it turns out it many in the crowd likely appeared to be on my side.

Thank you for your support even if you have a differing view. I can tell the Greenie I freeped has no room at all in his agenda other than the destruction of the US and other wacky green agendas.
18 posted on 11/02/2002 11:34:14 AM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
Congratulations on your bravery and your efforts. You are an inspiration. See how one life can touch another? Today the Fairway, tomorrow....
19 posted on 11/02/2002 11:36:55 AM PST by Unknown Freeper
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To: finnman69
Spontaneous Freeping, or spontaneous "Americanism"! I love it. So sad about the gentleman who lost his son. While 9/11 still burns in our hearts, it will never be so near as to those who lost loved ones.

Thank you for all your work!

20 posted on 11/02/2002 11:39:07 AM PST by Caipirabob
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To: finnman69
Way to Freep in the Big Apple! Columbus Avenue bump, baby! V's wife.
21 posted on 11/02/2002 11:46:18 AM PST by ventana
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To: Yakboy
This has definitely inspired me to try more activism and get involved other than donating money.
22 posted on 11/02/2002 11:47:37 AM PST by finnman69
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
This kind of reporting was one of the most seductive things about FreeRepublic when I first lurked here.

Addictive, isn't it? V's wife.

23 posted on 11/02/2002 11:48:45 AM PST by ventana
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To: Unknown Freeper
Today the Fairway, tomorrow....

Citarlla, of course.


24 posted on 11/02/2002 11:49:30 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: finnman69
I used to live across the street from Fairway in the old Beacon Hotel, above the Beacon Theater. Great neighborhood, if you can stand the commies.
25 posted on 11/02/2002 11:50:39 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: finnman69
It would have been funny if you could have asked the McCall guy in front of the Green Guy "Does McCall support the war like Hillary and Chuck do?".
26 posted on 11/02/2002 11:52:53 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: finnman69
Great job--from a ex-Upper West Side (8 years) New Yorker.

Oh. . . .how I miss Fairway Market.

27 posted on 11/02/2002 11:53:19 AM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: finnman69
Congratulations! Hope it was as much fun doing as it was reading about.
28 posted on 11/02/2002 11:53:42 AM PST by lonestar
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To: finnman69
Well Done Sir ! It is fun to express your feelings in public. Cheaper then Therapy ! LOL!!!!!
29 posted on 11/02/2002 11:58:08 AM PST by cmsgop
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To: finnman69
My husband and son are in the city today. That means there are 4 lone conservatives walking the isle of Manhattan.
Congrats.
30 posted on 11/02/2002 12:00:16 PM PST by CaptainK
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To: finnman69
I just got back from Fairway. I wish I had been there!

As I was walking out I was accosted by one of McCall's minions and my girlfriend and I jumped all over him. No wonder he didn't say anything back to me!

Nice to know someone else in Fairway (or Hellway as I like to call it) has a head on their shoulders!
31 posted on 11/02/2002 12:16:18 PM PST by max_rpf
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GOOD FOR YOU!

See what I mean about them looking all the same. And that brainwashed guy with the sign was too much.
32 posted on 11/02/2002 12:22:26 PM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
way to go finnman69!
33 posted on 11/02/2002 12:25:30 PM PST by oline
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To: finnman69
Kudos. We need more folks like you to just decide they've had enough and start to speak out in public!
34 posted on 11/02/2002 12:27:53 PM PST by Seeking the truth
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To: finnman69
CONGRATS FOR YOUR PLUCK, QUICK THINKING AND VIGOROUS STATEMENT OF SANITY AND TRUTH.

BLESSINGS,
35 posted on 11/02/2002 12:27:56 PM PST by Quix
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
If we stand up to Iraq NOW and not stick our head in sands like the Jimmy Carters and Greenies of the world, then we can avoid wider wars and "nukes".

Things like 9/11 happens when we fail to stand up to evil before it gets out of hand.
36 posted on 11/02/2002 12:32:40 PM PST by WOSG
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To: finnman69
You were blessed today when you helped the father. Thank you for sharing a beautiful story.

Another man, intelligent looking, white in his late 50's, looked a little Waspy wearing a baseball hat and barn jacket came right up to the Green and starting tearing into him. "Yes we should nuke Iraq! My son was killed on 9/11, it's because of assh*les like you that he is dead". Now there were more people watching, maybe 20-30, several smiling at the Green get belittled. The Green said to the man " m very sorry about your son", but the man who lost his son continued to call him an assh*le and say "I am so sick of people like you". At that point I added "because of people like you 3000 people died on 9/11".

At this point we both started to walk away down the street together but just before I left, there was a McCall supporter wearing a McCall button watching. As I left I turned to him and said "And McCall is going down by 20 pts!" The McCall white male 50ish supporter was stunned and said nothing.

The man who lost his son laughed when I made the Mccall dig. I wish I could have found a way to tell him about Freerepublic at the time that was appropriate. As we walked away the man continued to tell me how sick of antiwar leftists he was. I told him I agreed and that I felt sorry for the loss of his son.

37 posted on 11/02/2002 12:34:59 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: finnman69
Good for you. I lived all over the UWS in the 80s from 85th and West End to 104th/Riverside and Colombia Housing in Morningside Heights. It is indeed "Rat" central.

Job well done!

When I lived there, that pig Andrea Dworkin always had her tables set up at 72nd (or 79th)and Broadway sqawking about the objectification of womyn.....who'd want to objectify her?...lol
38 posted on 11/02/2002 12:56:13 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: finnman69
Woo hoo hoo! Good job! You done us down here by the WTC site good! :)
39 posted on 11/02/2002 12:57:33 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: finnman69
This Virginian appreciates your efforts!
40 posted on 11/02/2002 1:09:02 PM PST by jla
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To: finnman69
Good job. I can tell you that in Brooklyn things have changed a lot. Brooklyn Heights, Clinton Hill, Park Slope--all leftist bastions now have at least 2 or 3 American flags per block. I teach in a public junior high school in Carroll Gardens. We have been saying the Pledge of Allegiance every morning since 9/11. We stand at attention in the gym first thing every morning, put our hands over our hearts, and say the pledge as a school. Anyone who does not wish to recite the pledge must still stand out of respect. It's become normal after so many years of being out of fashion to express love for our own country. I truly believe that New Yorkers have been touched so deeply by the loss of the Twin Towers and so many of our rescue workers and friends on that day that we are forever changed.

BTW I also don't want to nuke Iraq but doesn't the Art of War advise the warrior to choose the time and place of the conflict if war is inevitable? I've got to go with Rummy on this one. Good to know you're out there fighting the good fight. There are more of us out here than I was aware of before 9/11.

41 posted on 11/02/2002 1:13:50 PM PST by foreshadowed at waco
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To: finnman69
I was at Fairway myself, but earlier (about 11 a.m.). I was amazed that there were *no* signs, tables, etc., since they were ubiquitous in front of Fairway during the 2000 elections (I suppose the Clintons no longer have the federal exchequer in which to hand out "walking around money" sufficiently generous to get these anachronisms up and functional by 11 a.m.)

I did notice a Golisano sign in a garbage pail right outside the 72nd street subway station.

I am truly amused by the rumor that he will get out of the race after spending millions of dollars and urge his "supporters" to vote for McCall. Since Golisano is such a cipher it is doubtful whether he has any "supporters" of his own to throw McCall's way. He was simply a "none of the above" candidate and his withdrawal will cause the disaffected to not vote, not to vote for McCall. If they were inclined to vote for McCall, they would not have supported Golisano to begin with.

42 posted on 11/02/2002 2:07:26 PM PST by HateBill
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To: finnman69
Alright!

PS -

"I saw more of these bearded 50ish white men with glasses(they all look the same don't they),"

Some of us bearded 50ish white men are freepers...LOL!
43 posted on 11/02/2002 3:52:41 PM PST by Yehuda
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44 posted on 11/02/2002 3:58:04 PM PST by finnman69
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LOL, I have seen plenty of bearded freepers and they look nothign like these bearded white men. Think of the types you might see at the gay parade.
45 posted on 11/02/2002 3:59:01 PM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
What a great story! I am so proud of you for standing up to that unAmerican what that man called him! Good for you, and thanks for sharing the story in such an entertaining way too! I almost felt like I was there! (I would love to shop that market btw lucky you! :-) )

I wish I could tell the Father who lost his son how very sorry I am, and how much I agree with him that these appeasers are the reason we lost all of those people. If they have their way, we will lose more. God Bless him!
46 posted on 11/02/2002 4:00:33 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: finnman69
Thanks for your courage, there are more people who think like us than we know!!
47 posted on 11/02/2002 4:02:57 PM PST by pbear8
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To: lonestar
Congratulations! Hope it was as much fun doing as it was reading about.

My heart was racing after and I was beaming ear to ear. A few blocks away I was smiling and talking to my 14 month old son telling him how much fun that Freep was. Im normally a very polite and diplomatic person. Not this time!I may have to make a habit of not putting up with kind of garbage. As I educate myself more on FR the angrier these leftists make me and the more inspired I am to fight for what I believe in.

48 posted on 11/02/2002 4:03:40 PM PST by finnman69
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To: finnman69
Go, finnman! I was going to introduce you to my daughter (fomerly of the Upper West Side, now a fabulous Denver cop) when I saw that you were already married - shucks!

In any case, many, many cheers for nailing that pathetic bunch of grey-haired lefties in front of the Fairway. Every time I have shopped there, they have driven me out of my mind. Well, except for the cat ladies, who were just depressing - although the cats were cute.

Now go puncture Jerrold Nadler's balloon (that would be Jerrold himself)!
49 posted on 11/02/2002 4:07:59 PM PST by livius
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To: finnman69
These people think they're the majority and freak out when people like you and the other guy speak out.

Nice work.

50 posted on 11/02/2002 4:10:17 PM PST by Doctor Raoul
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