CAVUTO REPORTS THAT BUSH CONSIDERING SCRAPPING THE IRS CODE!!!

Fox News Channel | November 6, 2002 | n/a

[BlkConserv]

The NRST is NOT a VAT....do your homework and read some of the NRST threads. They contain a wealth of information.

Besides, our current income tax started out as a flax tax....20 years later it'll be the IRS over again if it's repealed now.

[Tree of Liberty]

I'm sure the President is taking all of that into consideration. Keep in mind that my post is from a less than one minute statement from Cavuto. No specifics were given.

[Mark]

Abolish the IRS? Damn! I was just getting accustomed to the chains.

[agitator]

This subject is too vast to cover in a few paragraphs but the bottom line is that in the case of a NRST, it is not an "excise" because it is not avoidable. The whole point of an excise is that it is self regulating; think luxury boat tax. Tax on luxury boats too high? Boat tax revenue falls off. Boat tax is reduced. A NRST as currently suggested by proponents is not an excise because it does not apply to a limited number of avoidable items. The fact that we "enjoy" a non-constitutional, fiat currency is obvious.

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[ThinkDifferent]

Too many things to go wrong here. It took 90 (more or less) years to get here we have to back out slowly.

I understand your concerns, but I don't think we have time to take this slowly; the GOP isn't going to hold Congress and the White House forever. The income tax is a cancer on the US economy. It must be destroyed as soon as possible, even if the therapy hurts a bit in the short term.

[dano1]

How will minorities feel about this? Who cares?

I care. We have to earn their votes too.

[Tree of Liberty]

The SecTreas is pushing the NRST, according to Cavuto. There's nothing certain that the President or Congress will go along with his recommendation.

[mpreston]

The Democrats are on the run. I don't know how many times today I've heard someone say "now that the Republicans have total control they will also receive total blame for the economy". This puts the tax code issue on the table before they can even regroup and shifts the ecomonic blame game partially back to the Democrats.

[Tree of Liberty]

Exit148 was talking about 'the minority', i.e., the congressional dim's.

[rintense]

And the government!!!!

[mlo]

A national sales tax? A national tax of any sort on the citizenry of the respective states and you say they are Constitutional? Forget the money issue, little green pieces of paper based on nothing. What makes you think a tax of this sort would be Constitution?

You're confused. I didn't make the claim about its constitutionality. Someone else said it wasn't. I just asked him to explain why he thought that.

[Stultis]

Hmmmm -- I wonder how the 'minority' feels about this?

Lessee, the income tax allows big government to intrude into our lives and micromanage our behavior. Will the Dems fight tooth and nail to retain that power? Does the Pope wear a funny hat? Doth the Ursinoid excrete in the sylvan glades? Do the dead vote Democrat?

[lelio]

Scrap the IRS but have a single low low rate like in Russia. and a postcard size form to complete.
The only problem I have with that is what *exactly* is "income"? What about those losses you had on stocks, doesn't that take away from it? Interest on your mortgage?
I wouldn't mind if the IRS expanded so that they could personally look at more records. I'm in favor of a flatter income tax, but not if Mr Rich Guy That Can Pay a Lawyer gets off w/o paying a dime.

[sam_paine]

I hope this doesn't apply to home sales though.

I disagree. I hope it DOES include homes, and I wish it replaced perpetual property taxes. If I have to pay for the government, I want to get it over at the beginning, and then when it's paid off, I own it, and that's all. Having to pay local tithes to the Feudal Government perpetually till death is WRONG!!!

[Mark17]

I agree. To do this right we'll have to repeal the 16th amendment.

You got that right. Unless that 16th amendment is scrapped, it would still be there, so some Demon Cat would come along and use it, and we would be even worse off. You are right one, it needs to go as well.

[rs79bm]

This is nothing new, my friend. In fact, I remember him saying something about it in the 2000 elections.

[rintense]

YEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!

Let the dem bitching begin!

[ConservativeDude]

everyone should check out www.fairtax.org.

then come back armed with facts as to what the most serious proposal on the table really in fact is.

I believe unlike a VAT (which is among other things invisible and at multiple levels), the national consumption tax is at the final point of consumption.

Want a tax cut? Consume less.

Want religious freedom back? Get rid of the IRS.

ETC., ETC.

[MattinNJ]

PLEASSSE. The tax code is killing this country. All someone has to do is read Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations. We would take off like a rocket. Plus think of the increase to Republican popularity. The Dems would step in front of this as a scheme that would only benefit the top 1% and get run over by a Mack truck.

[ovrtaxt]

"You would have to replace the $$$ from somewhere. "

Tariffs were the original SOLE source of government income. If we just had the political nerve to do it.....