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China Turns Its Back On Communism To Join Long March Of The Capitalists
The Guardian (UK) ^ | 11-09-2002 | John Giddings

Posted on 11/08/2002 8:02:25 PM PST by blam

China turns its back on communism to join long march of the capitalists

John Gittings in Beijing
Saturday November 9, 2002 The Guardian

President Jiang Zemin yesterday effectively jettisoned communism in his manifesto speech on China's future development to the Communist party congress. Mr Jiang stressed the need for the party to "keep pace with the times" and bring prosperity to the Chinese people. Otherwise the party's own future was in doubt.

Mr Jiang spoke at length on the merits of his pragmatic theory known as the "three represents" which puts economic development as the top priority.

"The world is changing," he said. "We must adapt ourselves ... (and) conscientiously free our minds from the shackles of outdated notions, practices and systems, from the erroneous and dogmatic interpretations of Marxism."

In striking contrast to Mr Jiang's report to the last congress in 1997, he failed to refer to the "ultimate goal of communism" which the party in theory still pursues.

As expected, a green light has been offered to China's private entrepreneurs who have been vulnerable to criticism although they are now the country's most dynamic economic force. "We should admit into the party advanced elements of other social strata who accept the party's programme and constitution," Mr Jiang said.

He defined the new "social strata" as including private entrepreneurs, employees of foreign funded firms, and the self-employed.

It was improper, he said, "to judge whether people are progressive or backward by how much property they own".

Mr Jiang, who is expected to give up leadership of the party at the end of the congress next week, made it clear that the "three represents" is his legacy, supplanting the ideas of Marx and Lenin. It was "a guiding ideology (which) the party must follow for a long time to come", he said with characteristic lack of modesty.

Preaching a new inclusiveness, he said that "all people's interests are basically identical: we must allow people to advance together to the common goal of prosperity (and) encourage them to create social wealth".

Supporting Mr Jiang, governor Niu Maosheng of Hebei province said later that "the nature of the party has changed. Being afraid of hardship and death is no longer enough. You should be able to lead the masses to wealth and development".

Mr Jiang offered little or nothing to those hoping for political change. He referred cautiously to "expanding citizens' participation in an orderly way".

Democracy should be extended but only "at the grassroots": there was no suggestion of elections within the party or for government posts above the lowest level.

He made it clear that the party intended to stay in power and that it was supremely qualified to rule. "Leadership by the party is the fundamental guarantee," he said, "that the people are the masters of the country and that the country is ruled by law."

The Chinese constitution, he insisted, "embodies the unity of the party's views and the people's will".

Mr Jiang called for innovative thinking to tackle China's unemployment and the gap between rich and poor. He denounced high-level corruption, saying no one should be immune from punishment.

"We must move forward or we will fall behind," he declared. "Whether we can persist in doing this bears on the future and destiny of the party and state."

He also warned that China would use force against anyone who "separated Taiwan from China in any way".

Committing his successors firmly to world economic globalisation, he said the party stood for "going with the historical tide".


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: back; capitalists; china; chinastuff; communism; turns

1 posted on 11/08/2002 8:02:25 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
I'm one of the dot.com discards. MBA and I'm moving inventory at the local Target Store at nights as I job search during the day! You wouldn't believe how many of the cases and cartons of American brand named product is "Made in China"! Barbie, Rival Crock Pots, Clothing, etc etc.

We will beat them just as we slew the Bear. Good old fashion Capitalism.

Next we draw them closer by inviting them to join the International Space Station partnership. Invite India and Pakistan and we can begin to use science and technology to positively effect international relations.

2 posted on 11/08/2002 8:13:48 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: blam
Less Communist but just as Fascist as ever. Fascist Capitalism....kind of reminds me of slavery in a way.
3 posted on 11/08/2002 8:19:23 PM PST by Blackyce
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To: blam
Jiang: ...free our minds from the shackles of outdated notions, practices and systems, from the erroneous and dogmatic interpretations of Marxism.

Historic words indeed.

4 posted on 11/08/2002 8:20:42 PM PST by beckett
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To: blam
It's still structurally a Communist Party system. It remains to be seen whether that will be free and flexible enough to work. Not many checks and balances, I wouldn't think.
5 posted on 11/08/2002 8:23:07 PM PST by Cicero
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To: blam
"effectively jettisoned communism"


YSR.


I believe it when I see it.
6 posted on 11/08/2002 8:25:47 PM PST by FreeTheHostages
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To: Blackyce
Give an industrious people more and more economic freedom and they'll come the point of realization that totalitarianism only constrains it. Then morality will decide.
7 posted on 11/08/2002 9:04:26 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Cicero
Their main terror--understandable given their history--is chaos, disorder, civil war.

Virtually a visceral terror.

But they can still be idiots about it--setting it up and tyrannical controls etc.
8 posted on 11/08/2002 9:08:21 PM PST by Quix
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To: blam
That's it, the fat lady sings for Communisism in China. Dependency on international trade combined with the Hong Kong quandry has made their blinders slip enough to see that their system is a dead end. While xenophobia is part of their national character they haven't been so self-isolated to ignore how the rest of the world has moved on.
We in the U.S. usually overlook China's primary virtue of long term thinking. Communism is a flashing fad compared to a civilization spanning thousands of years. That they have become the world leader in cheap commodities shows that practicality takes precedence over ideology. The Chinese government is changing due to their nation's far older ingrained wisdom towards self-preservation.
My only worry is that their military hardliners may provoke Taiwan for their personal preservation. We can't forget how they subverted a sitting U.S. president for technological parity and openly spoke of their plans for a defeated America.
9 posted on 11/08/2002 9:42:14 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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Free their minds of Marxism? DANG! I bet the suicide rate in Berzerkeley and among the DU'ers went into the red zone. Ain't no amount of "karmic hugs" can help them now.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID59/8489.html



10 posted on 11/08/2002 9:42:54 PM PST by JoJo Gunn
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To: blam
This is all crap.

This beetle still rattles his saber at Taiwan, grinds Hong Kong under one heel and Tibet under the other.

They spend billions on Russian warships, subs, Su-30's.

War with the great hegemon is inevitable, the sooner the better.

Falun Gong, Christians/Catholics, democracy advocates, labor organizers are all crushed.

The internet and media are censored.

Jiang pretends to peacefully transition, but places his Shanghai faction puppets to retain control.

The "renunciation of Communism" is a charade.

The beetles of Beijing retain totalitarian control.

Meanwhile they cannot feed, clothe and house their thirteen hundred million.

Their threats toward Taiwan become more shrill.

They dare not be so foolish as to test the resolve of this president--

He is not their bitch as was the last--

This one has said, "We intend to do whatever it takes to defend Taiwan."

Jiang & Co. would do well to "let it go"--

In due course the revolution of rising expectations will intoxicate their subjects who will then slough off dogmatic constrictions.

Free markets and freedom of political expression will be born there, but not bloodlessly.

11 posted on 11/08/2002 10:25:37 PM PST by PhilDragoo
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To: Cicero
Re #5

China's role model is Singapore, not U.S.A..

12 posted on 11/09/2002 4:38:09 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: blam
On a scale of earth-shaking events, where the fall of the USSR was a 10, this is an 8. This is a signal to the rest of the world that they are ditching Marxism. By nature, the Chinese are capitalists--it's in their genes. They are not going to let anything get in the way of their economic progress--even Taiwan. If we hold our ground on our relationship with Taiwan, the Chinese government will not risk a serious confrontation over it--or anything else, for that matter. They want open trade with everybody--Taiwan, S. Korea, Japan, South American countries, US, etc. etc. They want to put all those Chinese to work.
13 posted on 11/09/2002 9:18:05 AM PST by Pushi
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To: TigerLikesRooster
You are probably right. And, why shouldn't it be. Singapore has a lot going for it. They have no drug problem, for one thing. And, their crime rate is one of the lowest in the world. So, before anyone slams Singapore, do your homework right here on the internet. If the climate was not so beastly hot and humid, I wouldn't mind living there.
14 posted on 11/09/2002 9:26:27 AM PST by Pushi
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To: Blackyce
They like to call it Authoritarian Capitalism.

These people will never learn.
15 posted on 11/09/2002 9:26:55 AM PST by myself6
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To: blam; Jim Robinson
It was improper, he said, "to judge whether people are progressive or backward by how much property they own".
My God, between this and China voting for the Iraq resolution, China has moved to the right of the House minority leadership.
16 posted on 11/09/2002 10:58:27 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"China's role model is Singapore, not U.S.A.."

I expect that if you're not 'right-on', you're dang close.

17 posted on 11/09/2002 11:16:38 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
Bump
18 posted on 11/09/2002 1:06:19 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: *China stuff
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
19 posted on 11/10/2002 12:23:10 PM PST by Free the USA
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To: PhilDragoo
They are fascist yes but not communist fascism(of the non nazi/hateful nationalism) variety is a far lesser evil then communism.
20 posted on 11/10/2002 12:43:32 PM PST by weikel
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